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Don't waste money on the Elderly

TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
Don't Waste Money on the Elderly?
The video below features Professor Stuart Altman of Brandeis University speaking before the Senate Finance Committee hearing on health-care reform. Courtesy of Hot Air. During the hearing, Brandeis says:



Remember, our population is aging. And with the very, very elderly, the costs go down, so that percentage should be falling, and it's not. Second, the cost of care is growing by so much, so at the same percentage, it's worth a lot more. So let's go back to the issue of comparative effectiveness, which we're supporting. That's where that can have a big impact. It's not only there, but that's where the waste is. That's where people are using technologies that really either don't work at all or keep people alive for for very limited [time] and [at] very high cost.



Hospice is one option, but we do need take account of the cost - you know, I hate to say it, the cost-benefit of some of the things we do. And either we can do it directly, or we can do it by bundling the payments and let the delivery system deal with it. So it's a combination of the delivery system dealing with it, or, and/or providing more information for people to make the right decisions, both for themselves and for the care.

This is a sentiment heard more and more these days - because the elderly are such a drain on society we should just come up with a way to better manage the growing elderly segment of society. I have blogged about this subject before here, noting the statements of Baroness Warnock in Britain who believes that people should soon be "licensed to put others down" if they are unable to look after themselves. Why should the government waste money on the elderly (or the terminally ill or senile) who won't live for very long anyway. Those resources could be better spent on other younger, more deserving people, right?



I am afraid that this scenario is exactly what will have if a national health care system comes to pass.

Comments

  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    How else did you expect the Democrats to save a buck ?
  • mousemouse Member Posts: 3,624
    edited November -1
    Yeah, now you'll have to kidnap grandma or grandpa and hide them
    out from the gov. so they aren't making hamburger out of em'
    Hell' why waste all that protein.[V]
  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    Sounds like my luck.

    I pay into SS my whole life, then it runs out when I get old and before I can get any of it back and then they kill me off to save money.

    Damn...
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why in the hell should govt cut help to older CITIZENS after a productive life while GIVING IT TO ILLEGALS FREE FREE FREE. that dirty greedy crooked rotten lousy scumbags in congress call themselves americans is a travesty...reform my *
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
    Sounds like my luck.

    I pay into SS my whole life, then it runs out when I get old and before I can get any of it back and then they kill me off to save money.

    Damn...


    You could always claim disability, you are an attorney.[;)]
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    spamscreek hit it on the head[:D] and what do the liberals that support Socialism have to say about this and the other chit the dems are pulling.[}:)][V]
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    [}:)] why do i get the funny feeling that people who say this sort of crap expect that they will be exempt from it?

    it sounds like something out of logans run doeasn`t it? you get to a cettain age and zaapppp!!! your cooked[V]
  • justusnospamjustusnospam Member Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if we're missing the point... the function of a republic is to protect individual rights, not provide for ANYONES existance....
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fshfndr
    ] and what do the liberals that support Socialism have to say about this and the other chit the dems are pulling.[}:)][V]


    That's easy !

    It's Bush's fault !!!!!!!!!
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    won't have to worry about that...I will probably leave a charred 60-something corpse when I forget that I don't have the reflexes of a 20-something and take the vette out for an adrenalin soaked drive [:D]

    better than crapping myself and dying hooked up to feeding tubes and whatnot, eh?
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do ya think Kennedy and Byrd and the other old dems will be affected by this new socialized medicine. Do as we say not as we do.
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    quote:you get to a cettain age and zaapppp!!! your cooked

    Soylent Green!![:0][xx(]
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    [}:)] why do i get the funny feeling that people who say this sort of crap expect that they will be exempt from it?

    it sounds like something out of logans run doeasn`t it? you get to a cettain age and zaapppp!!! your cooked[V]


    I just spent the last half hour trying to remember the name of "Logan's Run". The book, the movie, and the TV series. Okay, wise * do you remember what goes with "THX.........." and what it was about, and whose career it started ??

    Doug
  • dongilldongill Member Posts: 2,640
    edited November -1
    Surprise! Surprise! The demonRATS[}:)][}:)] kill babies.....the old are next!
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Grandparents have earned the right to live as long as they want to with any medical care they desire.
  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    End all foreign aid and the gov't could fully fund SS as they promised.
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fshfndr
    Do ya think Kennedy and Byrd and the other old dems will be affected by this new socialized medicine. Do as we say not as we do.

    Be assured that it will affect them .
    Each will have their own CT scan and MRI units .
    You don't expect them to stand in line do you ?
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    can`t help you with that one doug.
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