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U.S. Military guns? I want to start collection
goldeneagle76
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Is there anywhere to get a comprehensive list of all the rifles that have been used by U.S. military from 1800's-present? I would like to start a collection and my searches online have not yielded what I am looking for. Any help is appreciated
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Dixie Gun Works has them.
Let's see, then there was the 1846 Mississippi Rifle used during the Mexican War.
During the Civil War you had the .58 Springfield musket.
At the end of the century you had the Krag Jorgensen bolt action.
I know I missed a few.
That would be a great collection to have, good luck.
Springfield Model 1795 Flintlock .69 Ball 1795-1816
Springfield Model 1816 Flintlock .69 Ball 1816-1835
M1819 Hall rifle Falling block .69 Ball 1820
Springfield Model 1835 Flintlock .67 Ball 1835-1842
Springfield Model 1842 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1842-1855
Springfield Model 1855 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1855-1861
Sharps rifle Falling block .50-70 Government 1850-1881
Springfield Model 1861 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1861-1873
Springfield Model 1873 Breech-loading .45-70 Government 1873-1886
Krag-Jorgensen Bolt-action .30-40 Krag 1894-1903
Springfield M1903 Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1903-1957
M1917 Enfield Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1917-1943
M1 Garand Semi-automatic .30-06 Springfield 1936-1963
M-14 Selective fire 7.62x51mm NATO 1957-Present
M-16 Selective fire 5.56x45mm NATO 1961-Present
M16A1
M16A2
M16A4
M4
O3A1
O3A4
several sniper variants of the P-17 and P-14 (both being very rare)
M1-C
M1-D
M2 carbine
M3 carbine or T-3
Thompson
and also Remington and Winchester sniper rifles
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=230649&SearchTerms=giveaway [:D]
A good place to start would be with a good library. One that I always found helpful was Hicks, U.S. Military Firearms, 1776-1956. And of course no body should be without at least one copy of Flayderman's. After these, most of the books begin to focus on one type or period.
"Nice" little list there Dances... It'll be a good place for a start.
That is the list of all US service rifles for the last 200+ years. There aren't any others. Of course there were other guns; but that is wholly irrelevant to the list, isn't it?
quote:Originally posted by drsck
"Nice" little list there Dances... It'll be a good place for a start.
That is the list of all US service rifles for the last 200+ years. There aren't any others. Of course there were other guns; but that is wholly irrelevant to the list, isn't it?
Then the US Model 1841 Mississippi rifle doesn't count ? Same for the Model 1803 Harpers Ferry ? Model 1817 Common Rifle ? Model 1863, 1865, 1884, 1888 ? The list goes on and on.
Kentucky rifles were made in a variety of calibers.
The model 1819 Hall was in .52 cal, not .69 cal.
The Model 1842 was a .69 cal. smoothbore, not .58 cal.
Between 1886-1894 we had no rifles at all ?
I'm guessing you left out the carbines, because they aren't rifles, but neither are most of the earlier ones listed. They are muskets.
Well I was off by one year on the Harper's Ferry, five years on the Mississippi.
The 1803 Harper's Ferry, and the 1841 Mississippi.
Well I was off by one year on the Harper's Ferry, five years on the Mississippi.
No problems. Just off by a touch. The first guns actually manufactured by a US Arsenal was in 1795, although none were marked with dates until a few years later.
Mainly my last post was just busting chops on DWS with his "definitive" list of all US rifles. He left out a huge number that should have been included, and some of his stats were just plain wrong.
Kentucky Rifle Flintlock .69 Ball 1776-1795
Springfield Model 1795 Flintlock .69 Ball 1795-1816
Springfield Model 1816 Flintlock .69 Ball 1816-1835
M1819 Hall rifle Falling block .69 Ball 1820
Springfield Model 1835 Flintlock .67 Ball 1835-1842
Springfield Model 1842 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1842-1855
Springfield Model 1855 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1855-1861
Sharps rifle Falling block .50-70 Government 1850-1881
Springfield Model 1861 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1861-1873
Springfield Model 1873 Breech-loading .45-70 Government 1873-1886
Krag-Jorgensen Bolt-action .30-40 Krag 1894-1903
Springfield M1903 Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1903-1957
M1917 Enfield Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1917-1943
M1 Garand Semi-automatic .30-06 Springfield 1936-1963
M-14 Selective fire 7.62x51mm NATO 1957-Present
M-16 Selective fire 5.56x45mm NATO 1961-Present
If ya want to be specific there were hundreds, and i mean that, of different rifles and carbines issued to union troops during the civil war;
1853 Enfield 3 Band
1856 Enfield 2 Band
Harpers Ferry Model 1816
Harpers Ferry 1841 "Mississippi" Rifle
Harpers Ferry 142
Harpers Ferry 1855
Hennry Rifle
Remington 1816 "Maynard Conversion"
Remington 1863 "Zouave"
Sharps New Model
Springfield 1816/40/42/55/61/63
that is just a few that are documented as having been issued to union troops throughout the course of the war between the states
P.S. that info was pulled from "Warman's Civil War Weapons" by Graham Smith
I didn't make up the list. More to the point, I don't give a rat's *.
Do any of you clowns know what the designation/nomeclature "service rifle" means (as in US Rifle Caliber 30 M1)? Do you think the M16, M16A1, M16A2 and M16 M4 are four different "service rifles"?
I didn't make up the list. More to the point, I don't give a rat's *.
No, No, and I prefer Mister Clown if you don't mind [:)].
Also, would you happen to have the same for pistols/sidearms? (whatever the correct naming is)
No, No, and I prefer Mister Clown if you don't mind.
Okay: *, Mister Clown.
quote:Originally posted by non mortuus
No, No, and I prefer Mister Clown if you don't mind.
Okay: *, Mister Clown.
Is that a no to the list I asked for?
Seriously I would like a list.
Seriously I would like a list.
Please don't type with your mouth full.
quote:Originally posted by non mortuus
Seriously I would like a list.
Please don't type with your mouth full.
LOL, my hands had nothing to do [:o)]
Do any of you clowns know what the designation/nomeclature "service rifle" means (as in US Rifle Caliber 30 M1)? Do you think the M16, M16A1, M16A2 and M16 M4 are four different "service rifles"?
I didn't make up the list. More to the point, I don't give a rat's *.
Very impressive. Deny errors, shift blame, solicit sodomy.
Kentucky Rifle Flintlock .69 Ball 1776-1795
Springfield Model 1795 Flintlock .69 Ball 1795-1816
Springfield Model 1816 Flintlock .69 Ball 1816-1835
M1819 Hall rifle Falling block .69 Ball 1820
Springfield Model 1835 Flintlock .67 Ball 1835-1842
Springfield Model 1842 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1842-1855
Springfield Model 1855 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1855-1861
Sharps rifle Falling block .50-70 Government 1850-1881
Springfield Model 1861 Percussion cap .58 Mini? 1861-1873
Springfield Model 1873 Breech-loading .45-70 Government 1873-1886
Krag-Jorgensen Bolt-action .30-40 Krag 1894-1903
Springfield M1903 Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1903-1957
M1917 Enfield Bolt-action .30-06 Springfield 1917-1943
M1 Garand Semi-automatic .30-06 Springfield 1936-1963
M-14 Selective fire 7.62x51mm NATO 1957-Present
M-16 Selective fire 5.56x45mm NATO 1961-Present
Great list, just remember, there are variations on a lot of these. A full collection is a daunting task at best, and thaks to the anti's, there are a lot of them you are not allowed to own.
as the collection becomes more complete, you know if you try to get every variation of every kind of gun issued you would have a pile of guns a mile high. you have to draw a line somewhere.
maybe if you make easy to begin with, as you go along you'll become more aware of what's out there and what's worth collecting.