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Of course He's pro-[gun] ...

ChuckWBIVChuckWBIV Member Posts: 351 ✭✭✭
edited November 2016 in General Discussion
Hope this one isn't across the line here; looking at Mr. Perfect's siglines here, and I didn't see THE [PERFECT] verse:

"Put up again thy sword into his place; ..."

IMO, there's no debate about pro-/anti-sidearm position of Jesus Christ. KJV Mt 26:52.

What's remarkable is His use of the PERSONAL poss. pronoun, referencing the sword.

The debate? Is the sidearm a PART of you? Or is the sidearm your 'PARTNER'? Or both???????
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  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Neither...itso showing ownership/possession

    This is a English language thread...not religious.
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    "his" is more properly translated today as "its". The Greek word there a personal possessive pronoun in the genetive feminine 3rd person singular, if you want to truly get technical, and therefore can only be referring to the sword. But it does not mean that the sword is a person. The noun for "sword" in the Greek is feminine. It merely means the sword has a place... and it is commonly understood to be a sheath or scabbard. If one wanted to make an analogy to guns, it would say "put your gun in its holster"

    Furthermore, the verse in its context suggests that those that use of the sword (or whatever weapon) will die by the sword. While you may see that as the ultimate verse for sword/gun use, I think many would argue otherwise.

    I lean on Ecc 3:1 and 3:8. There is a time for peace and a time for war. If you look at the entire context of the cited passage Mat 26:52, it suggests that it is not a time for war. Of course that is not to suggest there are never times for it.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got a headache. Anyone else[:o)]
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  • BikerBobBikerBob Member Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I only skimmed it so no real damage here!

    Hope your thanksgiving plan is still intact, I'm sure the stogie on the deck will help this pass![:)]
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