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Vietnam Vets on pain meds
MMOMEQ-55
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A guy I know is on all sorts of pain meds and pills for mental problems. He also has to see a shrink every month. This guy is screwed up in the head and recently he got a CCW. Is it not illegal for someone with mental problems to own firearms. This guy does not need a gun in his hand.
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You also need to be adjudicated(officially/legally declared) as a mental defective to be disqualified. Again, if all it took was to be subjectively labeled as "crazy", most of this board along with the gun community at large, would be disqualified.
Mental issues are mental issues.
Under Federal law (see ATF P5300.4, page 10), it is unlawful for anyone who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution to possess a firearm. However, the definition of these terms is subject to different interpretations by federal agencies & states.
Yes, the VA could report him for addition to the "prohibited persons" data base, but VA & DOD do not have much of a system for identifying & reporting dangerous crazy people. Many states report few, if any, nut cases to the feds.
In fact, it is against the political interest of the Big Liar & the liberal governors to prevent crazy people from getting guns. The more innocent people killed by crazies with guns, the easier it becomes to push new gun ban laws through the legislature.
Neal
If it starts affecting his or mine judgement, then it becomes a problem.
Why Vietnam Vet in the title. Well, cause that's what he is. Same as me and many on this board? He came home in body but not in mind. Even after all these years he still has flash backs.
I never want to take guns away from anyone but this guy is certifiable. I feel he is a danger to himself and others. JMHO
Why Vietnam Vet in the title. Well, cause that's what he is. Same as me and many on this board? He came home in body but not in mind. Even after all these years he still has flash backs.
I have a buddy who still deals with PTSD. He was in some deep s**t over there. Some never lets it go. God Bless all, and prayers to help contend with these issues.
Why Vietnam Vet in the title. Well, cause that's what he is.Describing him as a 'VN vet on pain meds' right out of the chute just muddies the water by bringing emotion into play instead of logic.
The bottom line is that - as you describe - he's a pain med junkie with mental issues and you're strongly concerned about him having access to guns. In this particular situation empathy is understandable, but when trying to come up with a plan on how to deal with things, how he may have come about these issues isn't a factor.
I have a strong tendency to cut fellow veterans slack, but if someone's dangerous they're dangerous - period.
However, none of us is qualified to evaluate whether or not someone is dangerous based on a forum posting. Problem even after a couple of sessions, it might become clear.....
Probably what's needed it use the DSM-V (Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders) & decide which codes should be considered "dangerous", & require mental health professionals to report these to the state agencies.
Neal
If the guy qualified to carry under the law. He must be a party member.[:o)]
I tire of all this ragging on vets. When the numbers are considered any vet with a gun is much safer than a car with a cell phone.
No one is ragging on vets. I am simply voicing a concern. Hell, I was in my second tour in VN when I was hit. I know first hand how it is.