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Ammo ID?

RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
edited June 2014 in General Discussion
Any idea what these are? If there was a label on the box it is long gone. Got it along with a pile of these old Western Auto Revelation shells.

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    35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Assuming that's a 12 gauge shell, I'll guess that the rimfire rounds in the box are .32 Long RF.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,466 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Looks like 25 Stevens Short to me.
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    35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    Looks like 25 Stevens Short to me.



    I bet you're right. I never considered that one.[:I]
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    Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think so guys. I have seen stuff like that on the TV.

    That there is an Ammunition Stockpile.

    Throw in a gun or two, and you have an Arsenal.

    [;)][:I][:0]
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    RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the hint, that gives me something to look for. I grabbed these in some box lots at an estate sale. I searches high and low for the guns that fired them, but they were apparently long gone.
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    EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe Winchester 22 automatic ?

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    kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Western used a headstamp similar to that, also.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,466 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    Looks like 25 Stevens Short to me.



    I bet you're right. I never considered that one.[:I]
    Well, it's not that I'm an expert or anything, it's just a semi informed guess. I ended up with a box of ammo a couple years ago, and the good folks here on GB identified it as 25 Stevens Long. They were in an old yellow/red Winchester 9mm box. The rounds in Rusty's picture look shorter than I recall the ones I had. Sold them right here on GB for over a buck each, and the fella was darn glad to get them.
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    RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    .7 case, .9 OAL, .25 width
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,466 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Here is what I could find for dimentions.

    25 Stevens Short:

    Bullet diameter .251 in (6.4 mm)

    Neck diameter .276 in (7.0 mm)

    Base diameter .276 in (7.0 mm)

    Rim diameter .333 in (8.5 mm)

    Case length .599 in (15.2 mm)

    Overall length .877 in (22.3 mm)

    Primer type rimfire



    25 Stevens (Long):

    Bullet diameter .251 in (6.4 mm)

    Neck diameter .276 in (7.0 mm)

    Base diameter .276 in (7.0 mm)

    Rim diameter .333 in (8.5 mm)

    Case length 1.125 in (28.6 mm)

    Overall length 1.395 in (35.4 mm)

    Primer type rimfire
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    RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    It looks like .25 Stevens short it is.
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    RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    Also it looks like these are Western. Here is a headstamp from the auction side for the .25 long:

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    35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RustyBones
    Also it looks like these are Western. Here is a headstamp from the auction side for the .25 long:

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    I couldn't find that headstamp anywhere. I've got a few larger rimfires in my collection that I'll have to dig out and look up.
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    MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member, Moderator Posts: 9,978 ******
    edited November -1
    "I couldn't find that headstamp anywhere.".......here you go
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    35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
    quote:Originally posted by RustyBones
    Also it looks like these are Western. Here is a headstamp from the auction side for the .25 long:

    pix713788672.jpg



    I couldn't find that headstamp anywhere. I've got a few larger rimfires in my collection that I'll have to dig out and look up.


    Just flip it over. The image is upside down. [:D]



    If I turned it sideways, I'd really get confused! I'd be sitting here, scratching my head, thinking "now who the hell used a parallelogram for a headstamp?"
    [:D][:D]
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