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For you wanna be snipers in N Tx

JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
There is a new range that has opened north of McKinney on 75 that has rifle ranges out to 500 yards. It's called Top Gun and you have can't just go and shoot 500 yards. You have to earn your way up.

I hear you have to prove you can shoot 2" groups at 100Yd before you can be moved up to shoot 200 yd and so on.

Sounds interesting. I would like to try it out.
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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Won't last, with those rules...
  • NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
    i'm game . it will last because there is not a good long gun range around here. hey! i have not shot my m14 in so long i forgot i owned one[:D]or my bmg 50.
    will look into it thanks
    Noah[;)]
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think 4 MOA...maybe even 3 MOA would be a more realistic, yet challenging goal.
  • 4627046270 Member Posts: 12,627
    edited November -1
    I would love to try it.
  • torosapotorosapo Member Posts: 4,946
    edited November -1
    What is MOA at 500 yds?
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    According to Wiki (I didn't want to do the math myself) "The exact measure of MOA is 1.047" at 100 yards of distance." Therefore 1 MOA at 500 yards would be 5.235". That would be some pretty fair shooting for most of us. [:D]
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    man that sounds like fun. The range here is seldome use and it quiet most of the time but it only goes to 200 yards. I love shooting 500 to 1000 yards but have to go to a buddys to do so. Its a pain to do +500 yards becouse he doesnt own the land around his place and even though the farmer that does lets us shoot we have to remove targets daily
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by thermonuclear
    There is a new range that has opened north of McKinney on 75 that has rifle ranges out to 500 yards. It's called Top Gun and you have can't just go and shoot 500 yards. You have to earn your way up.

    I hear you have to prove you can shoot 2" groups at 100Y2 before you can be moved up to shoot 200 yd and so on.

    Sounds interesting. I would like to try it out.


    Do they pass you if it's tighter groups


    [:D][:D][:D]
    2" at 100 .17 HMR on a windy day[:D][?]
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    2" groups wont get you into the "500 Yard VHA CLUB" on prairie dogs[;)]
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    Hell with the guys i hunt with 5 inch groups is all you need at 100 yards. Its no wonder why i put all the kill shots into are deer. Drives me nuts but what does a guy do. If it wasnt for these guys taken me in i wouldnt be able to hunt up here.

    BTW for me at 100 yards it would have to be under 1/2 inch.
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    According to Wiki (I didn't want to do the math myself) "The exact measure of MOA is 1.047" at 100 yards of distance." Therefore 1 MOA at 500 yards would be 5.235". That would be some pretty fair shooting for most of us. [:D]


    sounds about right...the deviation would be a sine of the angle.
    1 minute is 1/60 of an angle and taking sine(1/60) times 90 meters gets 2.6cm. 90 meters is 100 yards and 2.6cm is close to that value you gave in inches (1 inch = 2.54cm)
  • coltpaxcoltpax Member Posts: 7,516 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm happy with MOD (minute of deer).

    btw, you think they'll let me use my red ryder?
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    Man to tell ya the true I would support this at the local range. I love shooting long range but like i said before are range doesnt go that far. If it did there would be a crap load of wana be's there tying up the range. Would be nice going there and passing them up and walking up to the range with a smile knowing i could shoot when i wanted.

    That and it would force them ( dignity at stack here ) To try harder .
  • CLINTFCLINTF Member Posts: 735 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gotta wonder WHAT anyone is shooting and what their skill level is...
    I have done pop-up targets out to 600m with an issue rifle (irons) and about 800m+ with optics on a "pie-plate". I understand that the average shooter needs A LOT of practice so I kinda understand why they have a requirement. Heck, it gives the up-in-comers and wannabees a goal to focus on.
  • storm6490storm6490 Member Posts: 8,010
    edited November -1
    how arrogant!

    come out here and you can shoot out of the bed of my truck for miles!
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone when it comes to shooting, nor do I have to "earn" a damn thing. I know what my capabilities are, and they are not up for interpretation or scrutiny by anyone else but me.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • storm6490storm6490 Member Posts: 8,010
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone when it comes to shooting, nor do I have to "earn" a damn thing. I know what my capabilities are, and they are not up for interpretation or scrutiny by anyone else but me.



    sounds like someone who can shoot over 500 yards! :)
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by storm6490
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone when it comes to shooting, nor do I have to "earn" a damn thing. I know what my capabilities are, and they are not up for interpretation or scrutiny by anyone else but me.



    sounds like someone who can shoot over 500 yards! :)





    I have rung a 1000-yard gong with my Swift a time or two.[:p] Not so much for groups, but just to see if I could.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by storm6490
    come out here and you can shoot out of the bed of my truck for miles!


    Shhh! C'mon you know we don't do that here in the Big Sky Country! [:p]
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by thermonuclear
    There is a new range that has opened north of McKinney on 75 that has rifle ranges out to 500 yards. It's called Top Gun and you have can't just go and shoot 500 yards. You have to earn your way up.

    I hear you have to prove you can shoot 2" groups at 100Yd before you can be moved up to shoot 200 yd and so on.

    Sounds interesting. I would like to try it out.


    Do they pass you if it's tighter groups


    Maybe it's like a school. They'll let you skip a grade (well in this case yards).

    As for the range surviving? I say if they're the only 500 yarder out there 100 miles radius. They'll have folks traveling.
  • Wyatt EarpWyatt Earp Member Posts: 5,871
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Won't last, with those rules...


    I bet it does. It's the male condition to seek competition. That's why pilots accrue a host of ratings they don't need, why karate students become black belts, why businessmen continue making money long after they have plenty. It's how we're wired.
  • btkbtk Member Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NOAH
    i'm game . it will last because there is not a good long gun range around here. hey! i have not shot my m14 in so long i forgot i owned one[:D]or my bmg 50.
    will look into it thanks
    Noah[;)]


    Tiger Valley has a 1000 yd range outside of Waco headed to Mexia.
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If that range is only 500 yards, then where do the snipers go to shoot?
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like they are trying to avoid having their target hangers and gear shot to pieces.
  • Ox190Ox190 Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just picked up my Savage 10fp in .308 yesterday that I bought off of here. Probably going to head up to either Top Gun or a buddy's land to do a little shooting in a few weeks.
  • Ox190Ox190 Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    And if you really want to learn how to shoot long range in North Texas check this guy out, www.northtexasrifleprecision.com
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll pass.

    I'm looking at more distance than that out my back door.

    For those who do decide to visit this range, be advised that Cheaper Than Dirt has opened a store front on 75 in McKinney. A grown man's Toys-R-Us. [:p]
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    500 yards was the standard range in basic training with M1 Garand. What's such a big deal?
  • storm6490storm6490 Member Posts: 8,010
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ox190
    And if you really want to learn how to shoot long range in North Texas check this guy out, www.northtexasrifleprecision.com


    If you really want to learn how to shoot, go to building 73, Kyle Hall, Harmony Church.

    You don't need a fancy rifle or costly training. Training will be provided free of charge and you will even get a nice rifle out of the deal. All you need to do is sign some paperwork and you're in!

    It's the coolest training camp around! :)
  • Ox190Ox190 Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RtWngExtrmst
    500 yards was the standard range in basic training with M1 Garand. What's such a big deal?


    Mostly because all of the other shooting ranges in DFW max out at 100 yards. It's not often you get the option to go out and shoot 500 yards unless you have a deer lease or your own land to go out and shoot on. See, some people live in this thing called a city, cities don't have a lot of room to build 500 yard shooting ranges, so having that option is kind of a big deal. Do you understand now or do I need to draw you a picture with crayons?
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by torosapo
    What is MOA at 500 yds?


    ~5"

    or 1.0471996" (MOA) x 5 = 5.235998" at 500yds
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RtWngExtrmst
    500 yards was the standard range in basic training with M1 Garand. What's such a big deal?
    True, but keep in mind that bullseye was measured in feet.

    That's quite a bit greater than what most who are willing to travel out in the country for this range have in mind.
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ox190
    quote:Originally posted by RtWngExtrmst
    500 yards was the standard range in basic training with M1 Garand. What's such a big deal?


    Mostly because all of the other shooting ranges in DFW max out at 100 yards. It's not often you get the option to go out and shoot 500 yards unless you have a deer lease or your own land to go out and shoot on. See, some people live in this thing called a city, cities don't have a lot of room to build 500 yard shooting ranges, so having that option is kind of a big deal. Do you understand now or do I need to draw you a picture with crayons?

    I don't get it. If you have crayons draw me a picture.
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cce1302
    If that range is only 500 yards, then where do the snipers go to shoot?

    Snipers only get .22Short [;)]
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    500 yards? I have that in my back yard. I thought Texas was big. Guess only in regards to some things.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cce1302
    If that range is only 500 yards, then where do the snipers go to shoot?
    to the OP's credit, he did say "wanna be snipers"
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    Twenty years ago, when we hunted a lot, my wife shot out to 600 yds. regularly at the public range in Jackson, WY. They had gongs set up at 400, 500, and 600 yds. Gotta wait for the sound of the gong to get back to you. She would hit them from a sitting position, not a bench.

    So I would venture that 1,000 yards is more of a "long-range" target distance. But I'm glad you have that facility near you. Enjoy!
  • Ox190Ox190 Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just out of curiosity what caliber was she shooting out to 600 yards?
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    500 yards? I have that in my back yard. I thought Texas was big. Guess only in regards to some things.
    See above. [;)]
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone when it comes to shooting, nor do I have to "earn" a damn thing. I know what my capabilities are, and they are not up for interpretation or scrutiny by anyone else but me.



    You're only 31 right?

    You have a ton of things to prove still. [;)]





    Oh?

    Tell me, Dano, what exactly do you know of me outside of GB? What do I need to prove? Not a damn thing, that's what. Not to you, or anyone else, especially not to you.

    I may not be a 00-type wannabe super agent that "can't go into details" about a bunch of made-for-the-internet BS, that goes along with my fake persona, but I can hold my own when it comes to shooting.

    You talk like the morons at gun shows that see someone like me as nothing more than a kid that's never touched a firearm. You assume that because of my age, I can't possibly know what I'm talking about.

    You know what they say about assumptions, don't you? They're the Mother of all F-Ups.

    Age does not automatically equate to experience, and the sooner you learn that, the sooner I will take more of what you say with fewer grains of salt. Contrary to what you may believe, you haven't seen it all, nor have you done it all. You talk a good game. Too bad the words are hollow.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
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