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Ohio deer hunter kills two pet dogs for no reason
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Don't ya just hate assclowns like this idiot?
Best thing that can come out of this is two felony convictions and no more guns or hunting for him, ever.
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/11/29/disgusting-dog-hunter-just-shot-two-dogs-hunters-need-condemn/
Best thing that can come out of this is two felony convictions and no more guns or hunting for him, ever.
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/11/29/disgusting-dog-hunter-just-shot-two-dogs-hunters-need-condemn/
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What a total and complete *.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
That sure adds a lot of credibility.
The first line said the facebook page was fake.
That sure adds a lot of credibility.
the guys fbook page gloating is allegedly fake, but the story is true
http://fox8.com/2016/11/30/hunter-faces-charges-after-mans-dogs-are-shot-to-death-found-under-brush-pile/
is anyone else bothered also that the pets owner took a selfie with the shooter ?
i would not have turned my back on him
Whoa be unto him that shoots one of my dogs on my property. he wouldn't have to worry about a felony conviction.
+1
the guy may be an idiot, but this possibility also exists in that these dogs were running deer. a weimer is a hunting dog and the dobie is a "protection" type dog and both would be well equipped to actively chase and take down a deer...perhaps this shooter has encountered dogs doing this before in his hunting area. it is a common problem whitetail hunting since its usually done close to the deer/human interface. not excusing him in the least, but i can see his point if indeed that is what he will say in his defense. i have had dogs run deer through my hunting areas-a spitz and a potlicker * hound - that worked all morning long from one end of an 800 acre patch of timber to the other
If the dogs were running deer the idiot would have said so in his facebook bragging. Me thinks he saw a couple of dogs and just blew them away because he could. I hope the fine folks in Belmont County OH where I have good friends put this jerk away for a long time!
He lost his job with AEP over the shooting accounding to local news stories.
HEHE....I bet a good paying job, actually I don't think AEP has any poor paying jobs!!! his life is circling the drain...POS deserves it.
I don't agree with shooting dogs just because you can, but I also don't agree with sending a man to prison over it and all that comes with that. Sending people to prison comes with a very high price, not just for him, but for society too. It should be a civil matter, if the shooting wasn't justified the dog owner can seek compensation. Dogs are not people, they are property, just like a horses, cattle, sheep, and chickens.
You can't be serious, of course he deserves to be in prison ..... he should be executed if there was any justice in the world.
If they were my dogs, he would be dead and I'd be in prison ..... gladly.
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
He lost his job with AEP over the shooting accounding to local news stories.
HEHE....I bet a good paying job, actually I don't think AEP has any poor paying jobs!!! his life is circling the drain...POS deserves it.
From the news aarticle.
Belmont County, OH -
UPDATE: AEP has released a statement in connection to the alleged shooting death of two dogs by one of its employees. In a statement released on Wednesday, AEP said: "AEP expects the highest level of conduct from our employees, both on the job and outside of work. We are saddened by the situation that unfolded this week involving an off-duty AEP Ohio employee and the death of two dogs. This individual is no longer employed by AEP."
The dogs found shot and killed were a Weimaraner and a Doberman Pinscher.
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I know that an Apprentice Lineman only makes about $60K a year. The same that a meter reader earns.
Hang with it long enough to move up the ladder and salaries reaching $200 can be made.
The good decent to great is good. But the job security is much better in these times.
Well, there's at least one other person here who understands that pets aren't human.
I won't comment on the actual dog killing since I don't know whether the dogs were on home ground or not, whether they were running deer or not, or if they might have been aggressive toward the shooter or not.
In MO, it's a crime to injure or kill a hunting dog regardless of where it is unless the dog is causing damage.
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You can't be serious, of course he deserves to be in prison ..... he should be executed if there was any justice in the world.
If they were my dogs, he would be dead and I'd be in prison ..... gladly.
I like to think of myself as a reasonable man, but I'm close to agreement with you on this whether it's reasonable or not. I would only temper it with I'd have to be satisfied that I know what happened and why. Prison isn't the worst thing that can happen, but even if it were I'd go if necessary to remove the person who hurts my dog without a mighty good reason.
My dog is loyal to me so the least I owe him/her is loyalty.
I'm not defending this clowns actions. Just pointing out there are times when people will shoot dogs for misbehaving .
When I was a kid growing up in Wisconsin, one day my neighbor who farms came over and said he saw my dog running deer with a pack of feral dogs. If I didn't do something about it my neighbors would have shot the dog to end the discussion. Ended up having to tie the dog up at night to stop the behavior.
I'm not defending this clowns actions. Just pointing out there are times when people will shoot dogs for misbehaving .
A dog running a deer is not misbehavior. It's a natural thing for dogs to do. They don't have to be trained to do it. I have owned dogs whose full time occupation was to run deer. I've also owned dogs whose full time job was to run rabbits. I've owned dogs whose job was to point and then retrieve quail.
I would have explained to the farmer if his neighbors shoot my dog it would be best for them to shoot me first. Otherwise my dog won't be the only one going to Heaven today.
Your dog, your decision. Do whatever you think is right.
AND YOU WOULD BE W R O N G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given the content of your statement, you appear to believe in religious ideals. Where in the Bible does murder as retribution for property destruction come in???????
I've seen two middle aged men squared off for a gunfight over a hound being shot and I fully believe one of them would have died that day if cooler heads had not prevailed in the nick of time(at the risk of being shot in the crossfire). This is serious chit-no doubt about it BUT there are darned few places where a citizen can shoot in protection of PROPERTY and murder is murder.
This country has devolved into a Disneyland mentality toward animals in general and pets in particular. When grown people refer to themselves as "pet parents", I get a queasy feeling (and moderate revulsion at the thought of considering an animal on the same level as a child).
the guy may be an idiot, but this possibility also exists in that these dogs were running deer. a weimer is a hunting dog and the dobie is a "protection" type dog and both would be well equipped to actively chase and take down a deer...perhaps this shooter has encountered dogs doing this before in his hunting area. it is a common problem whitetail hunting since its usually done close to the deer/human interface. not excusing him in the least, but i can see his point if indeed that is what he will say in his defense. i have had dogs run deer through my hunting areas-a spitz and a potlicker * hound - that worked all morning long from one end of an 800 acre patch of timber to the other
This is what I was going to throw out there. Know I have shot a neighbors dog. But this one charged me as I opened the front door to my place.
"I would have explained to the farmer if his neighbors shoot my dog it would be best for them to shoot me first. Otherwise my dog won't be the only one going to Heaven today."
AND YOU WOULD BE W R O N G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given the content of your statement, you appear to believe in religious ideals. Where in the Bible does murder as retribution for property destruction come in???????
I've seen two middle aged men squared off for a gunfight over a hound being shot and I fully believe one of them would have died that day if cooler heads had not prevailed in the nick of time(at the risk of being shot in the crossfire). This is serious chit-no doubt about it BUT there are darned few places where a citizen can shoot in protection of PROPERTY and murder is murder.
This country has devolved into a Disneyland mentality toward animals in general and pets in particular. When grown people refer to themselves as "pet parents", I get a queasy feeling (and moderate revulsion at the thought of considering an animal on the same level as a child).
There are several things that I do that aren't sanctioned by the King James Version of the Holy Bible and a few that aren't sanctioned by the courts of Virginia. Fortunately I worship a loving and forgiving God.
Actions have consequences. People need to be aware that when they shoot somebody else's dog there could be serious consequences. Loyalty is one of my top tear priorities. When I take ownership of a dog I assume loyalty to the dog. I know there are people who don't like that way of thinking. All I can say then is don't shoot my dog.
would you shoot a dog that was about to attack you? 2 dogs that were poised to attack you? hmmmm i think i know the answer
Assuming that is addressed to me, you bet your sweet butt I would, and I said as much in my earlier posts. That's what I call a "good reason".
I try to make sure my dogs don't threaten people but anything can happen. If my dog threatens or bites a human without good reason I'll shoot my dog myself and wouldn't hold anybody else accountable for shooting him/her. I Can't have that kind of behavior.
Running a deer is a whole different question.
quote:Originally posted by discusdad
would you shoot a dog that was about to attack you? 2 dogs that were poised to attack you? hmmmm i think i know the answer
Assuming that is addressed to me, you bet your sweet butt I would, and I said as much in my earlier posts. That's what I call a "good reason".
I try to make sure my dogs don't threaten people but anything can happen. If my dog threatens or bites a human without good reason I'll shoot my dog myself and wouldn't hold anybody else accountable for shooting him/her. I Can't have that kind of behavior.
Running a deer is a whole different question.
You're right James, it's natural for a dog to run deer. When I * hunted almost all of our pups ran deer until broke from the habit. Some broke themselves some took more persuasion. I've never understood why some want to shoot a dog just for running deer.
If the neighbor's dogs are running deer on your place, you tell your neighbor and ask if he can keep them up, and if he doesn't, well maybe. Running livestock is different and I would shoot a dog for that if I couldn't handle it another way, again if possible I would give the owner the chance to take care of it. I had to get rid of one of my own dogs because it was a problem around stock.
I've had dogs for 5 decades now. I've had to shoot a few through the years, mostly my own. It's not nice, it's just something you do if you have to.
Ever see a deer that has been 'ran' by dogs? Hounds won't quit, they'll track one till either they lose the scent, or the deer dies of exhaustion!
Most state conservation officers have no compunction about shooting a dog chasing deer, then they hunt down and fine the owner also.