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Why is Russia supposedly our enemy?
beneteau
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That's all I've heard politicians rant and rave about is Putin/Russia is an enemy and we should institute sanctions against them.
"If" Putin helped Trump get into office, so far as I'm concerned, Putin is a friend.
What the hell has Russia done to us? I don't understand it.
"If" Putin helped Trump get into office, so far as I'm concerned, Putin is a friend.
What the hell has Russia done to us? I don't understand it.
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Much like China, they feel that they are intended to rule the world.
Once in awhile, they get a leader or group with a hankering to see if their 'destiny' is due to arrive.
Other than that, they are real nice folks...[;)]
While Russia had Germany on the run and was chasing them back to Berlin and the Japanese on the run in the east. Stalin had plans of not to stop but go all the way to the sea then split his forces north and south and take it all. For he knew that he had a better Army and equipment and a lot more of it on hand at the time than the US..
Patton tried to warn the US and start a war with them and died for his effort. For the US had had enough.
Then the US dropped the bombs. Something that Russia did not have at the time. So Stalin backed down.
Each have been uneasy with the other ever since.
Watched a Russian made WW2 movie the other night that kind of shed light on the matter.
While Russia had Germany on the run and was chasing them back to Berlin and the Japanese on the run in the east. Stalin had plans of not to stop but go all the way to the sea then split his forces north and south and take it all. For he knew that he had a better Army and equipment and a lot more of it on hand at the time than the US..
Patton tried to warn the US and start a war with them and died for his effort. For the US had had enough.
Then the US dropped the bombs. Something that Russia did not have at the time. So Stalin backed down.
Each have been uneasy with the other ever since.
and we are ok with japan now
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Watched a Russian made WW2 movie the other night that kind of shed light on the matter.
While Russia had Germany on the run and was chasing them back to Berlin and the Japanese on the run in the east. Stalin had plans of not to stop but go all the way to the sea then split his forces north and south and take it all. For he knew that he had a better Army and equipment and a lot more of it on hand at the time than the US..
Patton tried to warn the US and start a war with them and died for his effort. For the US had had enough.
Then the US dropped the bombs. Something that Russia did not have at the time. So Stalin backed down.
Each have been uneasy with the other ever since.
and we are ok with japan now
And Italy
And Vietnam
And Mexico
And England
And Spain
And Cuba
And
And
To control the people government must instill fear to raise taxes for ever increasing DOD expenditures. Without bad guys like Russia and the War on drugs how would big brother tax the people to death with loathing paranoia over nothing.
Without the threat. Why would we pay?
His take-over in the region was basically a slap in the face to post cold war agreements not only with the US but most of Europe.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2016-04-18/why-putin-took-crimea
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/02/27/to-understand-crimea-take-a-look-back-at-its-complicated-history/?utm_term=.5e6bff836470
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Yes Putin has a pair, and he leads his country well for the most part...but so did Hitler.
Regardless, I think there is way to much lime light being put on them by the liberal media.
The enemy of our enemy just might be our friend - for now anyhow.
quote:Originally posted by M1A762
Russia is busy killing muslimes, I say let them go about their business![;)]
The enemy of our enemy just might be our friend - for now anyhow.
i read this thread to my wife, and she hit it on the head
why are we friends with all past enemies, but not Russia
BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING WE WANT
They Hate their government
And We Hate Ours as Well.
I have talked to Russians For Years On Ham Radio
they Are Some Nice Folks, Suppressed.... but Nice[:D]
Russia is busy killing muslimes, I say let them go about their business![;)]
The enemy of our enemy just might be our friend - for now anyhow.
When Are we Gonna Stop All that Killing
Gosh we Had to Kill Saddam For What he Was Doing to Them.
Shoulda left him Alone
Russia And USA Coulda Saved Billions/Trillions[^][:I]
Today those same leftists are up in arms warning of the Red Menace.
Have you ever watched the original, "The Manchurian Candidate" with Sinatra? If not, do so. It gives you a pretty good idea of what the Cold War was like.
The Communists and the Nazis were both Socialist nations wanting to rule the world, the main difference being that the Communists murdered five times more innocent people trying to do it than the Nazis did. Mao is the preeminent mass murderer in human history.
The Russians don't call themselves Communists today, but they still want to take over the world (along with the Chinese.)
better watch what china is doing with the democraps....some reason for the BIG russia diversion...and obummer has a few days left to hinder trump
Maybe nothing, but here is an opportunity for Scary Kerry and Obummer to start some final ****.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-usa-kerry-idUSKBN14U2OZ
Russia is our enemy because there must always be a boogy man to support our industrial military complex budget.
To control the people government must instill fear to raise taxes for ever increasing DOD expenditures. Without bad guys like Russia and the War on drugs how would big brother tax the people to death with loathing paranoia over nothing.
Without the threat. Why would we pay?
BINGO!!!!
Yeah. Paranoia over nothing is right. Those thousands of nuclear warheads aimed at us are signs of deep and abiding friendship.
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If you don't know the history of the USSR and Communism, you might want to look into it. They tried for over 70 years to take over America and turn it into a Socialist slave state through spying, treason, sabotage and out and out war.
Have you ever watched the original, "The Manchurian Candidate" with Sinatra? If not, do so. It gives you a pretty good idea of what the Cold War was like.
The Communists and the Nazis were both Socialist nations wanting to rule the world, the main difference being that the Communists murdered five times more innocent people trying to do it than the Nazis did. Mao is the preeminent mass murderer in human history.
The Russians don't call themselves Communists today, but they still want to take over the world (along with the Chinese.)
and what where we doing during that time?
we are still trying to take over the world with so called "democracy", our government patted themselves on the back for bringing democracy to iraq among other countries , and we are not even a democracy lol
we push NWO and often disguise it with the UN
as far as Russia having nuclear missiles aimed at us, well thats what our government tells us anyway, in reality they are not pointed anywhere but up, coordinates are programed into a computer, im sure we have strategic locations programmed already too and will not be a last minute decision, they are not rifles and do not need to be physically pointed towards the U.S. PURE PROPAGANDA
and what were we doing during that time?
Fighting them and keeping them from taking over the world - like we did the Nazis, Fascist Japanese and Italians, etc., etc., etc.
History will not be kind to the US for our reaction to the terrorist attacks of 11 September, 2001.
We toppled two governments that resulted in the deaths of 100s of thousands of individuals in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did our best to de-stabilize Egypt. We left Libya ripe for infection by the cancer our actions allowed to metastasize in Iraq and Syria.
We deliberately ignored these lessons and continued to support Islamists fighting the recognized government in Syria, weakening their ability to contain and destroy isis within their borders.
Like it or not, Putin's Russia has been a stabilizing force in the Middle East. The major drawback is the growth in power of Iran - also a creation of our failed policies over time.
Putin's Russia is acting in its own self-interest in the region. Almost by definition that will place it in conflict with the US.
Brad Steele
I pray that when we get an American back in the White House, that we can work with Russia for the benefit of all non-terrorist ME countries.
For decades Russia was in the ME to stir up trouble (much of it against Israel) to weaken the area for their own goal of taking over the ME. But maybe now they will work with us to strengthen the area against ISIS terrorism.
Maybe they won't, but it's worth a try.
I hear your warning, Dads. But if I started posting irrationally, I'd be like everybody else.
Everybody?!? [:0][;)]
Much like China, they feel that they are intended to rule the world.
Once in awhile, they get a leader or group with a hankering to see if their 'destiny' is due to arrive.
Other than that, they are real nice folks
AND WE DO THE SAME,,,how many nations have we been responsible for taking out their leaders,,if Russia did half the so called NATION BUILDING we do we would be standing in front of the untied nations screaming. Problem is every time we remove someone from a country it backfires and we end up fighting them for years,,, From The Shaw of Iran to Saddam-Hussein ,,we cause more wars than we fix
I think that once they turned the tide during WWII, they realized they could be a world power and doing it largely on their own. With our "lend-lease act" supplies being little and late. I do suspect there is some truth to the idea that our possession of "the bomb" stopped their ultimate progression. I think once they got the bomb, they already had the worlds attention and stood atop global power so didn't feel the need to push it at that point.
Personally, I kinda like Putin. He SEEMS to be logical, completely for his country, and less of a megalomaniac than recent peers. Time will tell...