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Joe the plumber
remingtonoaks
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Just heard on the news, Joe may sue all that accessed his confidential information illegally, for invasion of privacy. Looks like he may have to pay Obama's inflated higher income earner taxes
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They won't be able to decide whether to (^*&% or go blind !
Oh, please. The man put himself in front of the camera seeking his 15 seconds of fame, then allowed himself to be a political tool. In an age when almost everyone has access to public records, what did he think was going to happen? Just proves that most people don't think when the camera is in there face.
I guess its all his fault, He should have kept his mouth shut like you and the rest of the sheep (JMO) that are FREELY giving away MY FREEDOM.. And BTW he is not suing over public type records. He's suing because they accessed his credit report and other secured info....That is ILLEGAL TO ACCESS without his consent
Why don't you go back to the U.S.S.R. like the rest of the commies. JMO
Then the main stream press and Obama campaign tried to ruin him for the 'audacity of question' to paraphrase Obama.
Then someone accessed his info illegally.
Wasn't his fault Obama was on the stump that day in Toledo.
I know a Sheriff in my area who was busted and sent to the federal pen for accessing criminal history records for non-law enforcement related purposes, even though everything he received could be obtained over the internet by anyone by paying a small fee. No slap on the wrist or even probation because it was his first criminal offense. He was sent straight to jail.
According to media reports Joe The Plumber's records were accessed through terminals at Toledo PD, an office of the state's child support enforcement agency and the state attorney general's office [:0], all because he spoke out against a particular political candidate. Let's see if anyone goes to jail over this one.
Oh, please. The man put himself in front of the camera seeking his 15 seconds of fame, then allowed himself to be a political tool. In an age when almost everyone has access to public records, what did he think was going to happen? Just proves that most people don't think when the camera is in there face.
I am glad to see you support such incursions......
Don
He wanted the fame, now he has it. Deal with it, buddy.
Nice...
Fame is one thing, illegal incursions into your records are another, but I am glad to see you show your true colors...
Don
quote:Originally posted by Aspen79se
He wanted the fame, now he has it. Deal with it, buddy.
Nice...
Fame is one thing, illegal incursions into your records are another, but I am glad to see you show your true colors...
Don
What proof is there anything illegal was done by the press?
What people are talking about here is the illegal accessing of his records by governmental officials. No one's saying it was done by the press.
Dammit, I was hoping to see how far the obamaites spin it[:0][:D][}:)]....
Don
He wanted the fame, now he has it. Deal with it, buddy.
He doesn't have to deal with it...He will sue and win.. After which he has plans to prosecute... He will win that too....The privacy act of 1968 insures protection from this kind of illegal activity...Fact, not my opinion
According to your warped since of thinking...The victim of any crime asked for it (JMO).. The man that was killed in a big city while being robbed asked for it, (Just because he lived in a big city). The little old lady that was raped asked for, _just because she had a *).... In your warped way of thought (JMO).
No, he didn't ask for someone to victimize him, Just because he did a legal act of asking a question.... Fact, not my opinion... And if you think exercising his freedom of speech in titles some scuzz bucket to invade his right to privacy... You ought it move to a country were those rights don't exist... Here they do. So apparently, by your post, you don't like our free way of life here (JMO), and your free to leave any time you want (Do you need help packing, I'd be happy to help a commie like you leave JMO). leave and go to were our form of freedom doesn't exist, like the rest of the commies. JMO (CONRAD, again JMO)
No, he didn't ask for someone to victimize him, Just because he did a legal act of asking a question.... Fact, not my opinion...If I remember correctly, he was standing in his driveway minding his own business when Obama approached with his press entourage and solicited questions from him.
All he did is ask an unscripted question. The reason he became 'famous' is Obama bombed so badly on the answer.
No the reason he became famous is that McCain used him as a campaign symbol without checking him out. As I recall, it was pointed out that he had back taxes issues (public record) and no plumbers license (public record). The Repubs should have at least checked to see if he was really a plumber. But, like the past 8 years, they get an idea and just blunder on without doing any background work.
Really, what part about "o" walking up Joes driveway did Mccain have to do with? That hit the news before Mccain ever mentioned him.
quote:Originally posted by woodshermit
No the reason he became famous is that McCain used him as a campaign symbol without checking him out. As I recall, it was pointed out that he had back taxes issues (public record) and no plumbers license (public record). The Repubs should have at least checked to see if he was really a plumber. But, like the past 8 years, they get an idea and just blunder on without doing any background work.
Really, what part about "o" walking up Joes driveway did Mccain have to do with? That hit the news before Mccain ever mentioned him.
Maybe his initial fore was via the O'biden ticket but ,he posed for the McPalin tour more than once, went to press conferences, spoke out supporting McCain, this puts him squarely in the Mcain camp by free will.
I don't know anything about illegal activities and if privacy right were broken someone needs to be punished. BUT don't stand up on national TV (on a politcal stage at that) when you are operating a business without a license and your committing tax evasion.. come on now.
His name isn't even Joe..
edit for spelling errors [:o)]
How sickening... and how sad.
Y'all are part of the problem, not part of the solution, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
If it is PROVEN that somebody did something illegal, then that is a different story.
No the reason he became famous is that McCain used him as a campaign symbol without checking him out. As I recall, it was pointed out that he had back taxes issues (So What? Big Deal) (public record) and no plumbers license (Nevermind the fact that he does not need one where he lives to be a plumber) (public record). The Repubs should have at least checked to see if he was really a plumber. But, like the past 8 years, they get an idea and just blunder on without doing any background work.
All this guy did was bring out the truth in 'bammy. Too bad all the stupid people didn't hear it, they were all too worried about his back taxes and plumbers license.
Got Guns?
There's no problem with him asking the question, if he had gone away. He allowed himself to be exploited by the Repubs. Once he stood on a stage with McCain, then he's part of the campaign. He should have realized that his appearance would draw attention to himself and an investigation into his background would be a problem. McCain should have done a better job of vetting. Simple as that.
If it is PROVEN that somebody did something illegal, then that is a different story.
I doubt you would know proof if it bit you in the *...
Your ok with politico's snooping in the NICS records, that says enough for me....
There's no problem with him asking the question, if he had gone away. He allowed himself to be exploited by the Repubs. Once he stood on a stage with McCain, then he's part of the campaign. He should have realized that his appearance would draw attention to himself and an investigation into his background would be a problem. McCain should have done a better job of vetting. Simple as that.If it is PROVEN that somebody did something illegal, then that is a different story.
Really shows who the masters of vetting really are .
Bet they even know how many pimples are on his * !
Now that the Dems. have control of the Patriot Act it is going to be fun watching the about face of a lot of people .
Oh, please. The man put himself in front of the camera seeking his 15 seconds of fame, then allowed himself to be a political tool. In an age when almost everyone has access to public records, what did he think was going to happen? Just proves that most people don't think when the camera is in there face.
Had you, or I done the same with Obama's similar info we'd be in custody today. I hope Joe wins. May be the start of rightful punishment of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy.
If it is PROVEN that somebody did something illegal, then that is a different story.Due to slanted media coverage you might not be aware, but it HAS been proven that multiple illegal acts directed toward this guy have occurred. It's now only a question of WHO committed each of them.
When a person's info is run through NCIC or any state's driver's license, auto registration, criminal history, warrant database, etc. the inquiry is electronically archived. An audit of these records was conducted and it's been determined that inquiries on this guy were received from three different locations around the state immediately after he appeared in the news. This is a fact.
The agencies who control the terminals where these inquiries originated have stated publicly that they had no active investigations involving him and no legitimate reason existed for any of their personnel to be conducting such inquiries. This is also a fact.
Before being certified to utilize these access terminals a person must receive extensive training on their use, a large part of which covers the severity of conducting unauthorized inquiries. In addition, the return on each inquiry is preceded by a warning statement advising that this information is intended for law enforcement purposes only and cites penalties for misuse.
Such unauthorized law enforcement database inquiries on people is a violation of both state and federal laws and is taken very seriously. Ask anyone involved in law enforcement and they can tell you about people being sent to jail for this, it happens all the time. Besides the person conducting such inquiries being charged criminally, the agency who controls the terminal also faces sanctions.
Note too that according to the state of Ohio's own electronic archives a terminal located in their Attorney General's office was one of those utilized to conduct unauthorized inquiries on this guy. This is the agency which is tasked with prosecuting people under state laws for engaging in this sort of activity. What we're seeing is clear and unarguable corruption.
With the existing evidence there's no question that this guy's rights have been violated and multiple state and federal laws have been broken by more than one person. Any civil cases surrounding this will be a slam dunk, but due to demonstrated corruption on the part of their prosecutor's office I'm betting any violations of state laws will simply be ignored. The ball is also in the federal prosecutor's court, but I don't hold out much hope of justice being served.
I know this because I heard it on most all the news stations who tell me what I need to know.[:o)]
Everyone knows that Joe the Plumber really is not a plumber since he does not have a license or belongs to a union but we do know thanks to the investigation by patriots that he is an evil tax evader and no-count citizen.
I know this because I heard it on most all the news stations who tell me what I need to know.[:o)]
It's funny, we know more abut "Joe" than about "o".....
But regular folk can't request their records be sealed can they..
Don
He is not in trouble for tax evasion. he had some health problems and had to use the money he set aside for taxes to pay for needed medical expenses. And has set up a payment plan with the IRS to pay his taxes. He could have signed up for welfare's medicaid, but chose not to. Which to me, makes him decent. But if that makes him a scuzz for getting sick, and choosing not to go on welfare to you...Then in my opinion your the scuzz bag
13t0
(1) He's not running a business, and never said he was. He said he WANTED to eventually open up one. and as of now all he is, is a plumbers helper and studying to get his plumbers licence so he can be a plumber, and then open up a business.. (These are facts)...
(2) his name is Joe, that's his MIDDLE name (this is a fact)...Boy he must be a bad person, going by his middle name....What type of person would be so low as to go by his middle name....Get a life, and quit posting false rumors you have no idea about.
The Mormons have a society that you might like. Its call Relief Society, It's for the women, they sit around and spread rumors, whether true or not. All you'd have to do is put on a dress and you'd fit right in...JMO
...Female Public Official that is a card carrying dim, accessed Joe's PRIVATE info on a STATE computer. Said card carrying dim also DONATED the MAX legal amount to Obammy. Aforementioned lib was suspended ONE month for her act, A CRIME, not enough, should be FIRED and prosecuted; but the lib Governor does not see this act as a "fireable" offense...hmmm, what a surprise.
WTH should ANY American civie be subjected to this Commie tactic because they asked a GD question, should have been a LOT of relavent questions ask but there were'nt; I guess the media was "afraid" to ask out of fear of being investigated, thats it, yeah.
BTW, no NEED for a plumbers license if doing certain work UNDER a licensed ELECTRICIAN/PLUMBER etc..and WTH does that have to do with the price of an orange?
Why not investigate every donar to the Obammy campaign, a lot of Commies there to investigate, THAT, would be as good reason RIGHT?...better than attempting to destroy a regular working guy; at least he isn't a marxist Commie D'bag.
NO excuse for ANY AMERICAN citizen to be investigated ILLEGALLY BTW, for asking a damn question, spare me...[;)]
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iW5224ojdXKd-VFYTzjYVhzpkUhwD94JM0OG0
4 more punished over 'Joe the Plumber' searches
4 days ago
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Two more senior managers at the Ohio agency where computers were used to dig up information about "Joe the Plumber" have been suspended without pay for their roles in the searches, an official at the agency said Friday.
Fred Williams, the Department of Job and Family Services' assistant director, will be placed on two weeks unpaid suspension beginning Monday, spokeswoman Scarlett Bouder said in a statement. Doug Thompson, the department's deputy director of child support, is facing a four-week unpaid suspension, also starting on Monday,
Two other agency employees are facing disciplinary action based on conclusions reached Thursday by Ohio's government watchdog, she said.
The department's director, Helen Jones-Kelley, improperly ordered staff to look up records on Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, the Toledo-area man who became a household name in the final weeks of the presidential campaign, Ohio Inspector General Thomas Charles said in a report.
Gov. Ted Strickland immediately ordered Jones-Kelley be placed on a one-month unpaid suspension after reviewing the report's findings.
Charles' report also outlines roles played by Williams and Thompson in the searches, as well as Paul Fraunholtz, the deputy director of family stability, and Judi Cicatiello, the deputy director of unemployment compensation.
Fraunholtz and Cicatiello will receive written reprimands, and all four employees must undergo ethics training on handling confidential data, Bouder said.