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vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
edited February 2009 in General Discussion
new to the site (sort of). my father has been a member for quite awhile and i finally got around to joining. site looks very good hopefully i can get some good info and share some of my knowledge.

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  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am still alive, not really kickin, but still amongest the livin.
    Friday they did a procedure, then Monday morning the put me under to put a tube from kidney to bladder, I really have been thru some pain in my day, but let me tell you, I think everyone in the hospital heard me, they put Dilaudid in the IV, I already had me fyentanl patch, but I will tell you, I am not ashamed to tell you I was crying, begging for them to give me something, they tried morphine, I was still hurting bad, then they tried oximorphine, I was pretty scared and wishing they could stop the pain, they put a bottle of TYLENOL IV. if, I don't know if it was all the drugs, or the last, from the time it started, till I was put to sleep my blood pressure was from the top to the bottom. After I was about to leave post op, I was told it was a bladder spasm. When I was in so much pain, the nurse came over, they were doing the rebound check, put in then release quick, I damn near left the gurny, to hear them talking, they were prepping a OR, they thought I was bleeding. I am stuck in the bed, moving slower than a snail, to have my back pain driving me crazy, but to go thru this, it was a hell of a lot worse than kidney stones, but I still have the stones for now, they a going to try to get them on the 21.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just wanted to say hello to everyone. Never realized there were forums here too!
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lamp Hellloooooooooo Pants[:o)]
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is anybody in there?
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hows everyone been? I been missing anything good?

    been a while since i was last on and figured i'd stop in and say hello. I've been busier then hell the last 6 months and finally getting some time off to relax a bit. haven't even been able to go out fishing at all this year. But have a better job now thats giving me more room to breath so hopefully ill be able to stick around a bit more. I miss any good meltdowns?
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My name is Chris and I am addicted to guns, beer, whiskey, hunting, fishing, history, and politics.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am still here

    Spent hours in surgery - it was a mess

    They got the tumor out - I had to get a colonostomy bag

    Horrible pain and muscle spasms - can't get out of bed.

    The pain is so bad - so strong.

    Gonna lie down for awhile

    God it hurts

    Mike
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi, Im jacob and im new to the forums. Ive been reading it alot and i enjoy some of it... rest kinda confuses me :D ill be ok tho. :D
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    New here, just wanted to say hi.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a keltec pf9. what do u guys think of that gun?
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gooooood Mooooorniiinnnggg Gunnnnn Brroooo Kkeerrrrrr (insert robin williams voice)
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Merry Christmas to you and yours.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just got back from delaware, did i miss anything?
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A bored mind is a terrible thing to waste, so having some free time to kill, I finally put together a fact sheet on the true production ratios and DOMs for the Winchester Model 1894. As many of you will undoubtedly note, the figures I have below vary significantly from the numbers published by George Madis in his tomes "The Winchester Book" and "The Winchester Handbook". All of my figures were derived from a detailed survey (conducted by the Cody Firearms Museum) of the first 353,999 serial number records. Unfortunately, all of the remaining pre-64 factory warehouse records were lost in a fire in the early 1960s, and undoubtedly many of the ratios would change drastically if the records were available for serials 1 - 2,600,011. The Polishing Room records (which contain nothing more than just the serial number) survive up to serial 1,343,183 which was in the year 1942. For those of you who collect the Model 1894, this should be very useful information, and I highly encourage everyone to save a copy of it.Production ratios for the first 353,999 Model 1894s made:4:5 (78.19%) were Rifles (276,780)1:5 (21.20%) were Saddle Ring Carbines (75,075)1:2 (45.92%) was a 30 W.C.F. (162,568)1:5 (22.80%) was a 38-55 (80,734)1:9 (11.31%) was a 32-40 (40,023)1:9 (10.45%) was a 25-35 W.C.F. (36,999)1:11 (8.77%) was a 32 W.S. (31,050)1:13 (7.60%) were Take Down Rifles (26,934)9:10 (91.6%) had a full length magazine (324,270)1:13 (7.51%) had a 1/2 magazine (26,579)1:688 (0.15%) had a 2/3 magazine (515)1:770 (0.13%) had a 3/4 magazine (459)Just (1) gun had a 7/8 magazine1:20 (5.02%) had a shotgun butt (17,768)1:584 (0.17%) carbines had rifle butt plates (606)1:1655 (0.06%) had a Swiss butt plate (209 rifles, 5 carbines)1:3308 (0.03%) rifles had carbine butt plates (107)1:26 (3.88%) rifles had pistol grip stocks (13,703)1:34 (2.97% had checkered stocks (10,512)1:718 (0.14%) carbines had pistol grip stocks (493)1:4023 (0.025%) had carved stocks (81 rifles, 7 carbines)1:9567 (0.01%) had a cheek piece (37)1:69 (1.46%) had a set trigger (5,153)1:70800 (0.0014%) had a double set trigger (5)1:3026 (0.033%) were nickel plated (117)1:3978 (0.025%) were silver or gold plated (89)1:668 (0.15%) were inscribed (530)1:998 (0.10%) were engraved (355)Just (1) gun had a matted receiver (on the frame ring)1:1744 (0.057%) had a matted barrel (200 rifles, 3 carbines)1:3000 (0.033%) rifles had interchangeable barrels (TD) (118)1:2255 (0.044%) had a case hardened receiver (155 rifles, 2 carbines)1:88500 (0.0011% had a factory installed scope (4)Just (1) rifle had a factory installed Maxim silencer (Teddy Roosevelt's)(2067) records are blank(184) were sold as receivers only53,941 is the last "Antique" serial number based on the Polishing Room records.Winchester started cranking out Model 94s at an accelerated pace starting in 1935. By the end of 1935, Madis' published DOM list and the Polishing Room record book only differ by (80) serial numbers (1099605 versus 1099525).Winchester then averaged about 35,000 Model 94s per year for the next (7) years (1936-1942), and then once again, Madis' published DOM numbers significantly diverge from the Polishing Room records. The Polishing Room records end at number 1,343,183, which is listed as the last Model 94 serial number recorded in 1942 (sorry, I don't have the exact date). Below are a few dozen serial numbers I have recorded with verified dates.Verified Model 1894 DOMs:Serial*** Received Date22 - 10-20-189490 - 12-7-1894136 - 11-1-1894 (1st Takedown received)137 - 11-14-1894139 - 11-14-1894165 - 12-8-1894204 - 12-1-1894257 - 11-13-1894266 - 11-12-1894309 - 11-6-1894563 - 11-21-1894734 - 2-2-1895814 - 12-8-18941296 - 12-26-18941368 - 12-29-18941835 - 3-5-1895 (1st engraved)1673 - 2-4-18953314 - 5-29-1895 (1st 30 W.C.F.)4762 - 6-29-18955014 - 7-18-1895 (1st 25-35 W.C.F.)5860 - 8-29-189513135 - 4-14-1896 15315 - 6-29-189616400 - 10-26-1896 27158 - 3-4-1902 (1st 32 W.S.)28202 - 10-25-189732192 - 3-24-1898 (Factory engraved)49796 - 12-28-189859367 - 5-23-189959668 - 5-22-189961710 - 5-8-189962652 - 5-12-189964043 - 8-10-189964406 - 8-19-189965056 - 10-18-189970126 - 10-19-189971479 - 11-4-189978333 - 9-12-190085741 - 4-24-190085816 - 6-20-190086623 - 7-24-190089924 - 12-28-190096800 - 1-9-190197869 - 11-2-1900107731 - 10-5-1901108346 - 6-1-1901111524 - 4-2-1901112916 - 4-24-1901113997 - 5-18-1901116570 - 7-29-1901118446 - 8-6-1901119046 - 8-2-1901 (18-inch Trapper Carbine)119959 - 2-5-1902120238 - 8-20-1901122029 - 9-27-1901142899 - 5-10-1902145358 - 7-29-1902203012 - 1-11-1904249157 - 12-24-1904249665 - 5-8-1905261228 - 9-5-1905288514 - 1-30-1906314870 - 9-11-1906318034 - 10-6-1906340492 - 3-7-1907Added InformationThe above information should allow anyone with a letterable Model 1894 (serial 1 - 353999) to very closely estimate the DOM. For those who are interested in adding your Model 1894 to my database, please get in touch with me at Win1885@msn.com
    http://diningquestions.com/
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A bored mind is a terrible thing to waste, so having some free time to kill, I finally put together a fact sheet on the true production ratios and DOMs for the Winchester Model 1894. As many of you will undoubtedly note, the figures I have below vary significantly from the numbers published by George Madis in his tomes "The Winchester Book" and "The Winchester Handbook". All of my figures were derived from a detailed survey (conducted by the Cody Firearms Museum) of the first 353,999 serial number records. Unfortunately, all of the remaining pre-64 factory warehouse records were lost in a fire in the early 1960s, and undoubtedly many of the ratios would change drastically if the records were available for serials 1 - 2,600,011. The Polishing Room records (which contain nothing more than just the serial number) survive up to serial 1,343,183 which was in the year 1942. For those of you who collect the Model 1894, this should be very useful information, and I highly encourage everyone to save a copy of it.Production ratios for the first 353,999 Model 1894s made:4:5 (78.19%) were Rifles (276,780)1:5 (21.20%) were Saddle Ring Carbines (75,075)1:2 (45.92%) was a 30 W.C.F. (162,568)1:5 (22.80%) was a 38-55 (80,734)1:9 (11.31%) was a 32-40 (40,023)1:9 (10.45%) was a 25-35 W.C.F. (36,999)1:11 (8.77%) was a 32 W.S. (31,050)1:13 (7.60%) were Take Down Rifles (26,934)9:10 (91.6%) had a full length magazine (324,270)1:13 (7.51%) had a 1/2 magazine (26,579)1:688 (0.15%) had a 2/3 magazine (515)1:770 (0.13%) had a 3/4 magazine (459)Just (1) gun had a 7/8 magazine1:20 (5.02%) had a shotgun butt (17,768)1:584 (0.17%) carbines had rifle butt plates (606)1:1655 (0.06%) had a Swiss butt plate (209 rifles, 5 carbines)1:3308 (0.03%) rifles had carbine butt plates (107)1:26 (3.88%) rifles had pistol grip stocks (13,703)1:34 (2.97% had checkered stocks (10,512)1:718 (0.14%) carbines had pistol grip stocks (493)1:4023 (0.025%) had carved stocks (81 rifles, 7 carbines)1:9567 (0.01%) had a cheek piece (37)1:69 (1.46%) had a set trigger (5,153)1:70800 (0.0014%) had a double set trigger (5)1:3026 (0.033%) were nickel plated (117)1:3978 (0.025%) were silver or gold plated (89)1:668 (0.15%) were inscribed (530)1:998 (0.10%) were engraved (355)Just (1) gun had a matted receiver (on the frame ring)1:1744 (0.057%) had a matted barrel (200 rifles, 3 carbines)1:3000 (0.033%) rifles had interchangeable barrels (TD) (118)1:2255 (0.044%) had a case hardened receiver (155 rifles, 2 carbines)1:88500 (0.0011% had a factory installed scope (4)Just (1) rifle had a factory installed Maxim silencer (Teddy Roosevelt's)(2067) records are blank(184) were sold as receivers only53,941 is the last "Antique" serial number based on the Polishing Room records.Winchester started cranking out Model 94s at an accelerated pace starting in 1935. By the end of 1935, Madis' published DOM list and the Polishing Room record book only differ by (80) serial numbers (1099605 versus 1099525).Winchester then averaged about 35,000 Model 94s per year for the next (7) years (1936-1942), and then once again, Madis' published DOM numbers significantly diverge from the Polishing Room records. The Polishing Room records end at number 1,343,183, which is listed as the last Model 94 serial number recorded in 1942 (sorry, I don't have the exact date). Below are a few dozen serial numbers I have recorded with verified dates.Verified Model 1894 DOMs:Serial*** Received Date22 - 10-20-189490 - 12-7-1894136 - 11-1-1894 (1st Takedown received)137 - 11-14-1894139 - 11-14-1894165 - 12-8-1894204 - 12-1-1894257 - 11-13-1894266 - 11-12-1894309 - 11-6-1894563 - 11-21-1894734 - 2-2-1895814 - 12-8-18941296 - 12-26-18941368 - 12-29-18941835 - 3-5-1895 (1st engraved)1673 - 2-4-18953314 - 5-29-1895 (1st 30 W.C.F.)4762 - 6-29-18955014 - 7-18-1895 (1st 25-35 W.C.F.)5860 - 8-29-189513135 - 4-14-1896 15315 - 6-29-189616400 - 10-26-1896 27158 - 3-4-1902 (1st 32 W.S.)28202 - 10-25-189732192 - 3-24-1898 (Factory engraved)49796 - 12-28-189859367 - 5-23-189959668 - 5-22-189961710 - 5-8-189962652 - 5-12-189964043 - 8-10-189964406 - 8-19-189965056 - 10-18-189970126 - 10-19-189971479 - 11-4-189978333 - 9-12-190085741 - 4-24-190085816 - 6-20-190086623 - 7-24-190089924 - 12-28-190096800 - 1-9-190197869 - 11-2-1900107731 - 10-5-1901108346 - 6-1-1901111524 - 4-2-1901112916 - 4-24-1901113997 - 5-18-1901116570 - 7-29-1901118446 - 8-6-1901119046 - 8-2-1901 (18-inch Trapper Carbine)119959 - 2-5-1902120238 - 8-20-1901122029 - 9-27-1901142899 - 5-10-1902145358 - 7-29-1902203012 - 1-11-1904249157 - 12-24-1904249665 - 5-8-1905261228 - 9-5-1905288514 - 1-30-1906314870 - 9-11-1906318034 - 10-6-1906340492 - 3-7-1907Added InformationThe above information should allow anyone with a letterable Model 1894 (serial 1 - 353999) to very closely estimate the DOM. For those who are interested in adding your Model 1894 to my database, please get in touch with me at Win1885@msn.com
    http://diningquestions.com/
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am home for a fwe hours and I just wanted to say hi to everyone. I have been really busy at the house, Marble and tile is laid, pained every room, changed the outlets, replaced trim and shoe, and installed washer and dryer. We are planning on moving in on saturday so hopefully I will get more than 3-5 hours of sleep. I hope all is well. talk to you soon. I will be online for a little while if anyone needs to contact me please email me.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just Checking In What are you all Up to
    Any Good news Or Gossip
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi frnds how r u???
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Howdy, y'all!

    United we stand, Divided We Fall.

    NRA Life Member
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    New member checking in. I have my newb kit ready. Boots, skin thickener, handy wipes, and a crying towel.
    I know all that won't be needed on this board because everyone is caring, sincere, and are bursting with brotherly love. Glad to meet you.[:D]
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It just happened that I am also fond of funs. That's why i am here. Hi guys! Hope we'll get along well. :)
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Uh... just introducing myself, I think. Been stalking the boards semi-regularly for a few months now and just decided I'd finally register. So, Hi.
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just wanted to check in and say hello. I have been very busy with work. I also became a firearms instructor and I am trying to get my company up and going. So Hello!!!!!
  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you aint selling it why the long-winded description that sounds EXACTLY like a sales pitch?
    [?][?]barto

    Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.-JFK
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I stopped reading when I got to this part: quote:It is a Century Arms receiver with ALL REAL HECKLER AND KOCH parts. If this is true, then the rifle is not compliant with the ASSAULT WEAPON BAN and is worth $10,000 and/or 10 years in a federal semi-privite cell sweet.

    ===========================
    Chance favors the prepared mind [8D]

    kimberkid@cox.net
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's worth at least $100.00 to me. I'd pay more but got turned off by the Portugese magazines. Beach
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have seen these rifles before,..but as Kimber said,..they will have a few other parts that are US made to comply. Even though the other parts are HK factory,..the rifle itself will sell with the accessories for maybe $1200-$1400 if there is a buyer. keep in mind that a collector can get the "real" HK91 for a smidge over $2000-$2200 in 98% condition.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the bayo will fit on the rifle, someone has either bought a century receiver and done a "home build" or hacked up a Century gun ... either way its illegal ... I'll echo JustC estimate $1200-$1400

    quote: If you aint selling it why the long-winded description that sounds EXACTLY like a sales pitch?
    bartoI'll add, a long-winded description that keeps saying "You get", "When you look at", "And last for you hunters out there", "All you need to do is get a receiver and new cocking tube and you will have ANOTHER COMPLETE RIFLE so your almost getting 2 rifles"

    Sounds like a sales pitch to me ...

    ===========================
    Chance favors the prepared mind [8D]

    kimberkid@cox.net
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    If thats not a sales pitch then Im a weeeee leprocan and everyones after my lucky charm![}:)]

    "Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet."
  • SilverBoxSilverBox Member Posts: 2,347
    edited November -1
    Its entirely possible vaughn99 is considering buying this and wants opinions..
  • vaughn99vaughn99 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello its me vaugh99. well i am currently selling this package. and since i can't sell items on this forum i left out where and for sale at what auction site/s. the reason its a sales pitch cause i cut and pasted my sales pitch here from my auction. i didn't want to rewrite the whole thing over again. now i have had lots of ppl asking why i want so much for a century arms rifle. say i am way over priced. but i have tons of hk stuff that comes with it. i think some ppl have no clue what these item indiviudualy cost or want ALOT of something for NOTHING which is what i suspect. i have over 2600.00 in the complete package so far. i wanted to see how far off i am on my asking price and posted here for some answers. this gun was imported to the USA and is 100% compliant no laws broken here. i didnt put it together if you read i sad is a centruy arms built rifle so i dont know where you got this from. i will not post my asking price which is was less than i have in it cause i dont want any admins yaking it thinking i am tring to sell it here. i need real sound accestment. thank you very much for the ppl who took me seriously and took ther etime to answer truthfuly.

    vaughn
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was an authorized HK law enforcement dealer for more than a decade so yes, I know what the accessories are worth. You problem is that at the moment none of you HK options are rare or in high demand. In quantites of 100+, HK factory magazines sell at retail for about $3.50 per unit from any number of wholesalers. The 4 power claw mount scopes with illuminator were once a very rare and hard to find items...not any more! Factory light-bipods are about $100 and spare plastic furniture is ALL over the place at give away prices. the SEF trigger pack is a felony waiting to happen if it is modified to fit a clip on lower receiver. Kimberkid knows his HK's as well as anyone on this borad and he has already warned you about the unlawful use of a retractable stock and bayonet on a post ban rifle. You'd probably do better just parting out your accessories because as soon as people read Century Arms HK clone the price in their heads is locked into LOW LOW, no matter how much stuff you pile into the deal!

    Mark T. Christian
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    who keeps bringing up these old posts. not a nice thing to do to a guy thats been drinking. hard enough to nav through the bs on here.
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by vaughn99


    been a while
    vaughn99 is just sayin hi...look at his edit[;)]
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by vaughn99


    been a while
    vaughn99 is just sayin hi...look at his edit[;)]


    In my opinion, He brought this old post back because he knew that there is his spam mesage in it. But didn't want to be viewed as a spammer... JMO. He thought we wouldn't see through it.. At least in my opinion he would have just started a new thread to say hi if he didn't want to spam us in a round about way
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