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Quality and reliability of Sig vs. Glock
lovethemcolts
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Good evening gun owners.
I have been having a heated conversation for quite some time now with a good friend of mine. It is simple, quality and reliability of a Sig vs. Glock.
Now to be fair- I won't say which make I'm partial to.
So, I'm asking you folks will you please help me with my poll?
Which make is the better gun in regard to Quality and Reliability? The Glock or The Sig? Not any particular model, just as a manufacturer as a whole.
Thank you in advance for your participation.
I have been having a heated conversation for quite some time now with a good friend of mine. It is simple, quality and reliability of a Sig vs. Glock.
Now to be fair- I won't say which make I'm partial to.
So, I'm asking you folks will you please help me with my poll?
Which make is the better gun in regard to Quality and Reliability? The Glock or The Sig? Not any particular model, just as a manufacturer as a whole.
Thank you in advance for your participation.
Comments
So tell me who makes the better car based on quality and reliability Ford or Chevy? The question you asked is no different.
Also keep in mind that the best in not just in quality but also the end user. Say a guy buys the Never Fail brand of gun but can not hit the broad side of a barn with it or is not the right size to carry all the time, does that make it the best gun for him? I say no.
Doug
I have both and don't see how you can compare the two. Like trying to compare a BMW to a Toyota camry. Reliable but........lacking the class of the BMW.
Lance
Personally, though, I like the feel of a Glock better, and I think they're a bit more accurate than the Sig.
Although I did talk to a friend of mine, US Marshall, that wittnessed a failure test between Sig, Glock and H&K. They finished in that order according to him. All were fired the same way with the same ammo with zero maintenance until somekind of failure.
glocks are 12oz lighter. Shorter, Holds 2 more rounds in the standard capacity mag, and optional factory 33 rnd mags. they are just as reliable as a sig. Glocks have light rails standard these days, you dont have to pay extra
I'll take the glock.
I'll take the glock.
Hmmmm, you haven't been to Texas lately have you?
Well maybe so. SIG customer service suxs, arrogant people up there.
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I'll take the glock.
Hmmmm, you haven't been to Texas lately have you?
Damn it.[xx(]
The glock is simple enough for a caveman to use, which is a good thing. It can survive torture and conditions most other guns would crumble under. The fact that it's chamber is not fully supported leads to problems with bulged or ruptured cases, which is a concern, but it happens relatively rarely. when it does happen, though, it can cause serious issues.
So in answer to your question: 1911.
I just wish that Jenning made a .45 with a rail. [:p]
Why not buy a Hi-Point then?
Lance
All I know is every time I go to the range to re-qualify, the Gunners Mates from the Armory go on and on about what a pain in the butt the Sigs (Sig 229 .40) are because they're "maintenance intensive." Of course, they also go on and on about how good they shoot (and they do!) [:D]
Personally, though, I like the feel of a Glock better, and I think they're a bit more accurate than the Sig.
I think everyone has a different opinion about the feel of a pistol and what they like. Thats a good thing, all the great choices out there for us. Its fantastic.
That said, I think most of the old gunslingers will tell you that a box stock Sig will shoot rings around any old Glock any day of the week. That is what they are known for, they have custom gun accuracy for a reasonable price.
You can shoot a 1-2" group at 25 yds with a box stock Sig 220 in 45 acp. I have yet to see anyone do that with a box stock glock 21, even a 3-4" group with the Glock is difficult to do unless you are a top competitor.
Put in a match barrel, a 3.5 trigger connector, and you might get that 3-4" group with stock sights. Its a top cop pistol, very reliable, not a top competition pistol, as is a Sig.
Bought a Sig and never lost any sleep over it.
Someone mentioned above that they knew personally of 15 Glocks having this problem. All the data I have seen shows that if you stay away from hot reloads this should never be a problem. I have never seen it, nor do I know anyone who has. LE Agencies all over the US (world) carry Glocks, so I will do some searching to see about failure rates with factory ammo. I am betting it will be extremely small. Know your weapon and what ammo is ok. The guys that will put stuff in a Glock that it does not like to eat will do the same to any weapon they have and eventually cause a failure. You all know the type: the ones who somehow manage to use a nail gun on a roofing job to nail their foot to the roof.
I agree with several here. It is hard to compare these two. I carry a Glock because I need a weapon that is so easy a caveman could do it and can take whatever abuse I need to put it through. If I want sub 1" accuracy for a competition I do not plan on using my Glock.
I bought a Sig 1911 GSR Triple T 1911 today. Showed my friend a picture of it and we get to talking on the phone and it's GLOCK, GLOCK, GLOCK- Like always with him.
Simply put he thinks there is NO better gun than a Glock and a Sig can't even compare to a Glock.
My wife carries a Glock 27 and I have shot it- she Loves it!
I think it's a good gun for the money but it's just NO Sig.
I now have a Sig P239 and this new 1911... By the way I ran 200 rounds thru it tonight and it was just like I expected. A Cadillac.
I have Colts, Rugers, Beretta and other "Name" brand guns. Have just about shot everything and I think out of the Box, a Sig is as Fine of a gun one can buy.
Thanks again for all the comments. Keep your thoughts coming in as I enjoy reading them all.
Cant compare the two like comparing the beretta m9 with the 1911... 1911 hands down is the better gun.. Sig is a whole different animal than glocks
now if you were to compare Glock to XD to M&P then that would be a little better-but also beating a dead horse..
For me if it goes bang then I like it
You Sig worshippers might want to read this from the SIGFORUM[:0]
Maybe a crack or 2 in the SIG alter[?]
I too have Beretta's, S&W, and on occasion I will refuse to return my buddies Sigs until I have expended all my ammo when we go to the range together.
The right tool for the job. Works in firearms as well as carpentry.
Take your friend to the range and let him get some time behind your Sig. He'll mellow out and he can still feel justified in carrying / owning his awesome Glock as well.
Glock 1000 round torture test 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI&feature=PlayList&p=76D6D94E140C4FDF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12
On balance I prefer the Sig. Better ergonomics and fit and finish. Also more accurate.
The glock is simple enough for a caveman to use, which is a good thing. It can survive torture and conditions most other guns would crumble under. The fact that it's chamber is not fully supported leads to problems with bulged or ruptured cases, which is a concern, but it happens relatively rarely. when it does happen, though, it can cause serious issues.
So in answer to your question: 1911.
+1 I'll take a 1911.
Now, If all I could own was a Sig. I'd take a Sig Sport.
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/8071085
You Sig worshippers might want to read this from the SIGFORUM[:0]
Maybe a crack or 2 in the SIG alter[?]Not that I can tell, just typical SIGForum nitpicking BS that's gone on for years.
Notice they all still acknowledge it beats others hands down.
But I don't see anyone here toutin' Kimber, along with the Sig, Glock and other brands. How come?
I just can't warm up to plastic as a structural componenent of a firearm. For grips and stocks, it is OK, but not as a frame.
That was on my phone this morning from Mr Glock lover in regards to this Post and poll.
He just can't handle the Turth.... [:o)]
Here is someone's commit that I think is true but how many of you would wear a Rolex out everyday? He must!
Sigs are in a whole differnet class than Glocks. They are the Rolex of handguns and you pay for that quality.
I have both and don't see how you can compare the two. Like trying to compare a BMW to a Toyota camry. Reliable but........lacking the class of the BMW
The big question is what you carry everyday and not be afraid of if getting a scratch on it! I know the Sigs are great guns for the money and if you are going to shot at a top competitor leval then get the sig but if it is for everyday carry I think the Glock would do just fine. Remumber most gun fights are with in 7 yards not 25 or 30. And I hope none of us every have to use them no matter what gun you carry.
Lets keep this discussion going I think its great.
The big question is what you carry everyday and not be afraid of if getting a scratch on it! I know the Sigs are great guns for the money and if you are going to shot at a top competitor leval then get the sig but if it is for everyday carry I think the Glock would do just fine. Remumber most gun fights are with in 7 yards not 25 or 30. And I hope none of us every have to use them no matter what gun you carry.
Lets keep this discussion going I think its great.
I carry one of my Sigs just about every day, my old P228 is very beat up with little finish on it and lots of dings, still shoots excellent. I don't buy Sigs to keep them in the safe, I carry and shoot them. I dislike Glocks, mainly because they do not fit my hand, and I hate that scrunchy plastic feeling trigger.