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concealed weapon on private property ??
robbie penny
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okay the law says a restruant or store is private property. therefore, is it legal to have a concealed weapon at one of those locations ?
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In MOST cases the business would have to post a no weapons sign of some sort. In some states the signs have to be of a certain style to be considered legal. In MOST states buy carrying in a place with a "no firearms" sign the worst they can do is ask you to leave.
2 other thought for you. If you are truly CCW who is going to know unless you have to use it to defend yourself? Second why are you spending your money in a place that does not believe in YOUR rights?
Big Ole Fat Ditto
Second why are you spending your money in a place that does not believe in YOUR rights?
Big Ole Fat Ditto
he never stated he spent time in a place that does not believe in are rights. He was just asking a question. I'm guessing he works in or ownes a buisness in a state the is hard to get a ccw permit in.
Is it legal to have the handgun ? As far as I know the concealed weapons laws apply to PUBLIC places and a restruant is technically private property.
The absolute best answer to this question is this: Spend the $100-$125 and take the concealed handgun class. Even if you dont want to carry, you will get all the info and answers you seek.
i live in los angeles county...NO ONE gets a CCW here
There are only 2 state that I am aware of that you can legally carry CCW without a license other then on your own property, or property/business without permission.
So if you are in a state that has no rules against CCW on private property if you had direct permission from the owner you should be legal. Keep in mind the minute you step out on the street then it would be illegal again.
quote:Originally posted by thermonuclear
The absolute best answer to this question is this: Spend the $100-$125 and take the concealed handgun class. Even if you dont want to carry, you will get all the info and answers you seek.
i live in los angeles county...NO ONE gets a CCW here
Ok now after looking at your state laws what does it say about carrying either concealed or open on private property? There is your answer.........
Depends on the property and it's owner. If the owner posts no weapons, you are thereby put on notice.
That is the rule here. It is up to the owner/manager of the business to make the call. No Concealed Weapons Allowed or a neat little sign showing a gun with a red circle with a slash through it. Must be posted on all of the doors that are used for public entrance.
A restaurant I believe would be considered a "Public" place.
its a public place but private property.
Yes, stores and restaurants are on private property, but they are open to the public and are therefore public places.
True that it's private property, but as a business it's 'generally accessible to the public'. That's the definition of 'public' place.
Okay I should have been more clear. This would apply to people who DONT have a CCW and on property that they do NOT own. For instance, if you are at a restruant and for some reason there a disturbance and police are called. You have comitted no crime and the police are just interviewing you. As usual the police ask if they can search you. You have a concealed handgun on you.
Is it legal to have the handgun ? As far as I know the concealed weapons laws apply to PUBLIC places and a restruant is technically private property.
WTH???
Doug
Okay I should have been more clear. This would apply to people who DONT have a CCW and on property that they do NOT own. For instance, if you are at a restruant and for some reason there a disturbance and police are called. You have comitted no crime and the police are just interviewing you. As usual the police ask if they can search you. You have a concealed handgun on you.
Is it legal to have the handgun ? As far as I know the concealed weapons laws apply to PUBLIC places and a restruant is technically private property.
Why would you let them search you, you have done nothing wrong & it is against your rights for them to ask.
If you look at the front door of when you inter there are usually a no weapons sign, that would be the first thing to look at. If you still carry after that & it becomes clear you are carrimg , someplaces can ask you to leave & others it can be a misdemeanor. Know your local & state laws first.
Which is better, fellas - a 9MM or a .45ACP ??
Doug
45MM[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Which is better, fellas - a 9MM or a .45ACP ??
Doug
Bigger is better...45 all the way.
Okay I should have been more clear. This would apply to people who DONT have a CCW and on property that they do NOT own. For instance, if you are at a restruant and for some reason there a disturbance and police are called. You have comitted no crime and the police are just interviewing you. As usual the police ask if they can search you. You have a concealed handgun on you.
Is it legal to have the handgun ? As far as I know the concealed weapons laws apply to PUBLIC places and a restruant is technically private property.
OK, you are in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. A restaurant is a public place because it is a business with a business license. As usual the police would not search your person except if you were questioned as a person of interest (read that as SUSPECT) in a crime.
So if your carrying, and police show up, and you don't slip out the back door, yep your gonna get hung up on a misdemeanor CCW charge.
Margaret Thatcher
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I've been in gunshops that forbid CCW. [V]
You will have that when you try to carry a Colt into a shop that has a shelf full of Glocks he is trying to pawn off on the uneducated.
If the sign at a place of business reads "no weapons allowed. Private Property", that sign does NOT say "The business is against gunowners and the 2nd amendment."
It is 100% within somebody's rights to ask you to not carry into their establishment as near as I can see. My rights do not eclipse somebody's right to make a living in my opinion. Might I think twice about patronizing that business. Heck yes, but it's my decision to make
but no one knows if I'm carrying, so the no concealed weapon signs are meaningless to me.
just my 2c
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No, it is not against your right to be asked. It is against your rights to be searched, after refusing to be searched, you are searched without probable cause or reasonable suspicion.
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Posted - 05/11/2009 : 01:35:08 AM
A restaurant I believe would be considered a "Public" place.
While I don't claim to be a attorney, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night so here's my $.02 as I understand from my Business Law calsses many years ago. The restaurant is a public place if it seves the public. If it's a private restaurant such as a golf club for members only then it's not a public place. With that understanding you may not CCW unless you have a CCW permit. Owner excluded of course[;)]
Which is better, fellas - a 9MM or a .45ACP ??
Doug
I'm gonna cut it down the middle for ya.
A .40cal/10mm.
I prefere a .45acp 230gr hollow point, myself.
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