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Letter from my Homeowner's Assn.

beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
edited January 2013 in General Discussion
Dear Resident:

During a recent drive through for possible violations it was noted that your garbage container is not being properly stored on your property. Containers within the subdivision are to be concealed from view.

My response which I wrote on the bottom of the letter and which will be mailed tomorrow:

"When you or the HOA start paying my garbage disposal fees, then you or the HOA can place the garbage container anywhere you f'ing please. In the meantime, shove it!"

Note: All of my neighbors have their garbage containers in full view of the street, same as mine. I have another container that sits on one side of the house. Now, I'm gonna place both containers in my driveway next to my garage in full view of the street. Come on *-hole, pay me a visit.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have never (and trust me on this) lived in a place that had convents (HOA),and that is by design.

    When you have a bunch of brown shirts running around telling people how to live, you have a recipe for disaster.

    As long as they have no power (money) they are a nuisance, not a problem.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • woodhogwoodhog Member Posts: 13,115 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mostly' I found homeowwner groups to be a bunch of retired nitwit busybodys with nothing to do but drive around pestering folks. They usually backdown in a heartbeat when confronted cause they are all coward pencilpushes in their past life.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,718 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We got a letter once from our HOA stating that there were bird droppings on our mail box and that they wanted me to "Immediately" either "wash" or "paint" the mail box to remedy this situation. Folks, we're talking bird crap here!

    After re reading the association rules and all of the covenants, I responded with a letter stating that nowhere in said rules or covenants did it state that I was required to do any such thing but if it bothered them so terribly, they were more that welcome to wash or paint it themselves. Never heard anything else from them on the matter.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have an HOA either, but in all honesty I think you made yourself look like a 'small' man by using foul language when it was not used towards you.

    Did you read the covenants of the HOA when you moved in by chance, or are you one of those that simply says "F this" after signing an agreement?
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pretentious pandering, plus pimping, per perceived precocious popular perceptions, poignantly portrayed poorly!

    There, I have P'ed on them enough. [:D]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bunch of Homeo's
  • proappproapp Member Posts: 3,264
    edited November -1
    Both my lake prperties have hoa, one are nazis, the other, where i live , noone wants to run it.[:D]
  • torosapotorosapo Member Posts: 4,946
    edited November -1
    I lived in a HOA from 91-96. My father had built a cottage in that area in 1959. At on of the meetings one of the busy bodies complained about my basement walls not painted. I told her they never were painted. She made comments about interlopers moving in and bring down the property values. I replied my family had been there a lot longer then hers, I knew the guy who built the house she lived in, I played with his kids in the summer.

    Two months later at the annual meeting I was elected to the board of governors. They tried everything they could to keep me off it. Including asking me to show proof I owned and not just rented, I told them to go to the court house and find out.


    Sometimes when you have the rules on your side it's fun just to put the screws to the busybody idiots.[8D]
  • saserbysaserby Member Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I agree with your sentiment, but you likely agreed to this BS in writing when you signed your agreement with them. If so, you will be moving your cans to the side of your garage shortly. To not do so will be expensive. After your letter, I think its safe to say they won't just let it drop.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guess it all depends where you live.
    I remember what were called 'Condo Commandos' years ago in S. Florida.

    These folks lived to walk around and find anything to gripe about to the board.

    Fast forward to today.
    My mother lives in a gated community with an HOA.

    Not a single person gets hassled except for those that do blatant things regarding lack of upkeep of their property, or starting up a pig farm.[:D]

    Works for her anyway, and helps to maintain her property value by not having purple houses with 3 foot tall grass around them.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get yourself both of these for the front yard!

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    [:0][:0][:D]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
  • beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    I don't have an HOA either, but in all honesty I think you made yourself look like a 'small' man by using foul language when it was not used towards you.

    Did you read the covenants of the HOA when you moved in by chance, or are you one of those that simply says "F this" after signing an agreement?


    I have read the "Declarations" that pertain to my section of the subdivision numerous times and retain copies of each "Declaration" as it pertains to each section of our subdivision. As the subdivision grew, there was a clause added to the "newer" (sections) Declarations, starting with about section F (I live in section A) that had an addendum "attached" with a list of convenants. Since that addendum with the list of convenants is NOT part of sections A through E Declarations, it is my belief these convenants do to not apply to these sections. It, also, states in these Declarations that NO ADDENDUM can be added without a 90% approval of all homeowners. That ain't happened and never will. I'm 68yo and if no one likes my foul language----then don't piss me off with some idiotic letter and, furthermore, they can kiss my *!
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  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:During a recent drive through for possible violations it was noted that your garbage container is not being properly stored on your property. Containers within the subdivision are to be concealed from site.
    Did he/she really misspelled the word sight?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I live in an HOA mostly for road maintenance, though ours isn't functioning at this time.
  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    Get yourself both of these for the front yard!

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    [:0][:0][:D]


    Doesn't everybody have them?[:)] Mine's armed.

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  • beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by poppalee
    quote:During a recent drive through for possible violations it was noted that your garbage container is not being properly stored on your property. Containers within the subdivision are to be concealed from site.
    Did he/she really misspelled the word sight?




    Actually that was my booboo. I changed it to "view".
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    I have never (and trust me on this) lived in a place that had convents (HOA),and that is by design.


    Convents? Ain't those barracks for nuns? [:D][:D] Possibly, "covenants"? [:D][:D][;)]
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a HOA in my neighborhood. It's in place to protect everyone. No long term trailer parking, any sort of fence needs to be approved, no rusty old washing machines in the front yard, no junk cars in the front yard, etc. We have never had any problems. It's a quiet nice residential neighborhood. If I wanted a bunch of sheds and a crappy looking fence, or if I wanted to see a wrecked '68 Winnebago sit along a neighbors drive way for 6-8 years I would live elsewhere..........
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My association has some atrocious regs.












    And if I'm in violation, she lets me know it. [;)]
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    if the hoa was in place before you moved in, then i have no sympathy for you what so ever. you agreed to the terms of the contract.

    if the hoa was instituted after you'd moved in there, then screw em. let em send you nasty letters all they want.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    I have a HOA in my neighborhood. It's in place to protect everyone. No long term trailer parking, any sort of fence needs to be approved, no rusty old washing machines in the front yard, no junk cars in the front yard, etc. We have never had any problems. It's a quiet nice residential neighborhood. If I wanted a bunch of sheds and a crappy looking fence, or if I wanted to see a wrecked '68 Winnebago sit along a neighbors drive way for 6-8 years I would live elsewhere..........


    Good points, all, and those same factors represent what I like about our association.
    What's next?
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HOAs and covenants are simple. They are there when you buy into the neighborhood. If you don't like them, don't buy. If you do buy, live up to your word and obey them.
    I have lived in several neighborhoods with them. I made sure to read them before buying. They are there to protect everyone's investment. I've also lived in neighborhoods without covenants. Some of them started getting pretty trashy after awhile.
    Covenants aren't carved in granite. If you do move in and find them too oppressive, use the democratic procedures in the covenants and change them.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    I have never (and trust me on this) lived in a place that had convents (HOA),and that is by design.


    Convents? Ain't those barracks for nuns? [:D][:D] Possibly, "covenants"? [:D][:D][;)]


    Ahh, the spelling police caught me again!

    I plead the 5th.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I once owned property outside of Hot Springs Ar. When I had bought it there was no HOA. about 2 years later there was a building boom around me and one was voted in. I got a letter in the mail telling me my property was now in said HOA and a rule book. 1ST ,most of these houses were on a 1/4 or 1/2 acre lot. I owned 15 acres,mostly wooded. I went to the next meeting and told them I would not abide by their rules . They took me to court and they lost, they even had to pay my legal fee's. I still got compaints from them all the time about me not keeping my wooded property up to their standards. I went to the next meeting and told them if I recieved one more letter I would build a trailer park right in the middle of that 15 acres. I bet they were glad when I sold it [^]
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where we live now I can (and have) deer hunted from the back deck. But when we lived in CO, average was 6 houses per acre. In THAT sort of density, some rules to keep things straight, clean, and unjunked are a good idea. HOW they are applied is another matter.

    Our HOA was run by the developer, since the project was still being built. I attended the one annual meeting they held in 3 years, and asked (in a civil manner) why the HOA had not filed an annual accounting of funds (as required). Got a heated lecture from the developer. Replied that I had asked why no financial report? Another blast from developer. Stood up, said thank you- I asked twice politely- now I will see you in court.

    And we did- where developer was found guilty of embezzlement of large sums, ordered to repay, sent to prison.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most HOA's are just fine,.....IF you accept the terms.
    I am not aware of buying a non-HOA property that gets turned into one around here.

    You either look for that protection, or you don't want anything to do with it.

    Seems simple to me.
    Heck,.....I'm not even part of a HOA, and I keep my garbage cans in the garage until they go out for pickup.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Irish 8802Irish 8802 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad you are not in my neighborhood!
  • nards444nards444 Member Posts: 3,994 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    this is why I would i would never live in an HOA. Everybody and the mother already tries and tells me what to do already dont need some yuppie organization telling me even more what to do.

    I think most people buy into them not really thinking of the HOA or really buying into the whole process, well maybe a little bit. But there are those that live for it, ie the housewifes and worthless men that have nothing better to do. But I think most of them are created to create some false sense of a prestigous neighborhood and keeping something pristine because everybody is going want to trash it and everybody is going to want so badly to be in this neighborhood. But me Ill skip having the $500 mail box that all 5000 people own packed into a square block with a pit dug and called a lake.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sharpshooter039
    I once owned property outside of Hot Springs Ar. When I had bought it there was no HOA. about 2 years later there was a building boom around me and one was voted in. I got a letter in the mail telling me my property was now in said HOA and a rule book. 1ST ,most of these houses were on a 1/4 or 1/2 acre lot. I owned 15 acres,mostly wooded. I went to the next meeting and told them I would not abide by their rules . They took me to court and they lost, they even had to pay my legal fee's. I still got compaints from them all the time about me not keeping my wooded property up to their standards. I went to the next meeting and told them if I recieved one more letter I would build a trailer park right in the middle of that 15 acres. I bet they were glad when I sold it [^]


    [:D][:D][:D]
    What's next?
  • jthoresenjthoresen Member Posts: 445 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are 50,000 homes on the market in Dallas & Fort Worth (MLS). Less than 1% do not have an HOA. Sure doesn't give you much choice does it.
  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
    Ifn ya did have convents in your neighborhood, them nuns would be warshin out yore potty mouth!

    [:D]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    rather poor trash service tht won't go down into your basement and pick up the can and assorted bigger trash and carry it out to the truck for you..i would complain to the homeowners association how difficult it was to follow their guidelines
  • bartman45bartman45 Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    Get yourself both of these for the front yard!

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    I was always a big fan of the plywood cutouts of the fat woman bending over or the fellow smoking a pipe leaning against a tree. Neighbor went on vacation for three weeks, other neighbor put the fat woman cut up on vacationing neighbor's property as soon as they left.
  • Jacob2008Jacob2008 Member Posts: 19,528 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Be damned! You're lucky if people around here even pull them back from the street... even the 500k+ homes... sheesh. Who cares, its a trash can!
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by woodhog
    Mostly' I found homeowwner groups to be a bunch of retired nitwit busybodys with nothing to do but drive around pestering folks.Yep, some old turd that thinks he's running the CIA.
  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wundudnee
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    Get yourself both of these for the front yard!

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    [:0][:0][:D]


    Doesn't everybody have them?[:)] Mine's armed.

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    I see you have a "Shovel Bird". Did you make it?

    I have a couple of them in my front yard that my Dad made up about 20 yrs. ago!
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
  • nards444nards444 Member Posts: 3,994 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    haha nice dude. Thats what it is. Its people trying to create some sort of prestige that doesnt exist.
  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
    I've got an extra broke down truck in my yard you can put in your yard to hide the cans behind.
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