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COLLAPSE UNITED STATES PREDICTED

SturmgewehrSturmgewehr Member Posts: 4,420
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
RUSSIAN ANALYSTS PREDICT COLLAPSE THEN BREAK-UP OF UNITED STATES. A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

I have been advising my fellow Americans for months to fore go presents this Christmas and instead, buy guns and ammunition. I reiterate that advice.

We are heading into Civil War. http://drudgereport.com/flashrur.htm

Comments

  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In his wildest dreams are we going to collapse. His country is in far worse condition. We just need to send some corrupt politicos and CEO'S home and we will be alright. Tom
  • Hunter MagHunter Mag Member Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I have been advising my fellow Americans for months to fore go presents this Christmas and instead, buy guns and ammunition. I reiterate that advice.
    This is happening but not because of a civil war threat...for now.
  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    quote:He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.What a genius - he took this almost directly from a pen-and-paper roleplaying game called "Shadowrun."
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I have been advising my fellow Americans for months to fore go presents this Christmas and instead, buy guns and ammunition. I reiterate that advice.

    But that would be a present to me.[:D]
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    it sounds plausible...i can certainly see a time in the future when the republic wont exhist anymore...there will be states that will withdraw and form their own alliances. it would be stupid for a state in the interior to go it alone...they would be held hostage ...but they could form an alliance with states that gave them access to the sea!..then they could trade with the world.

    another positive about this melt down as far as i`m concerned is that i can see the united nations folding!![:)]..at least there might be some positives from this mess, and it will fold because countries wont be able to fund it..there would be revolution in a lot of countries if their governments were to keep giving money to the u.n. and their own people are going hungry...with a bit of luck revolution will happen here...we need one, badly!!
  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Since when does Canada influence the northeast states?

    More than 75% of Americans cannot even find Canada on the map.

    Sounds like a lot of commie crap.
  • Lucky_LeftyLucky_Lefty Member Posts: 7,971
    edited November -1
    I would move to TX or head towards the coast but the midwest is pretty unpopulated.
  • SturmgewehrSturmgewehr Member Posts: 4,420
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunpaq
    Since when does Canada influence the northeast states?

    More than 75% of Americans cannot even find Canada on the map.

    Sounds like a lot of commie crap.
    The New Left now seem very much in vogue , and not just with Obama. Yes, Das Kapital" has been flying off the shelves.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Keep right on whistling past the graveyard, you'all....

    Do you REALLY think the wholesale looting of America by the evil snit that are presently running things are bailing out the big boys and doing it for YOUR benefit ?
    America does not exist at the end time...these times are just as good as any other, for the collapse....
  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dan Kelly, Interesting about the UN! I think we should boot them out and move HQ to Russia. Reckon they would let their diplomats get thousands of traffic tickets and have drunken brawls and get away with because they are diplomats?? Tom
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr


    I have been advising my fellow Americans for months to fore go presents this Christmas and instead, buy guns and ammunition. I reiterate that advice.




    are you telling me that a good rifle or handgun is a poor X-mas present???
    I disagree!
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    tom.
    no country in their right mind would want the u.n. based in their front yard!!

    it is useless...costs billions a year to run...does nothing while millions get murdered...it is just a club for politicians..an exclusive club at that!

    i saw enough of the u.n. and how they run things when i was in east timor to last me 10 life times!!!..they discusted me!!and once they get their claws into a country they make damned sure they don`t leave!! they are as bad as any power hungry politician...once they get control they won`t give it up!!

    when australian troops first went into east timor after they voted for freedom from indonesia the troops shot anyone who shot at them..no hesitation!!...once the u.n. took over it was "illegal" to shoot the malitia...who were mostly made up of indonesian troops who crossed the border dressed as civilians...then, and still now, they have to be captured and be disarmed..then taken back to the border crossing with west timor(still part of indonesia) and are allowed to stroll back across the border! all the control that was won there has gone now that the u.n. is in there...and the u.n. will never leave there!!! they will be there for as long as there is a u.n.!!
  • sarge_3adsarge_3ad Member Posts: 8,387 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't see America breaking up, however I do see it becoming a union with Canada and Mexico and Central America. With half of Obama's picks for his cabinet positions being CFR member, I can clearly see that he will be continuing the destruction of the Republic, just like Bushs' and Clinton's have in the past.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    poppycock, bulshnibbins, horse rubbish, what a bunch of crap
  • SturmgewehrSturmgewehr Member Posts: 4,420
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    poppycock, bulshnibbins, horse rubbish, what a bunch of crap
    hyperbole [;)]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where will the rednecks be? Just as long as Hooterville still exists.
  • Aspen79seAspen79se Member Posts: 4,707
    edited November -1
    Here's a math problem for you:

    How many drugs would you have to take, and over what period of time, to actually believe this crap?
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    How very amusing.

    Every culture in History has collapsed.
    There are those that will still be screaming `it cannot HAPPEN'....even as the last city burns around their ears.
    They will do nothing to ensure their own survival ..they will not lift a finger to prepare even the simplest emergency kit.

    Whether it is now, or ten years, or 50 years...it is coming.
    Your leaders...AND YOU....have turned your backs on that which made the US strong...and the rest is inevitable.
  • HonestBluesHonestBlues Member Posts: 859 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    How very amusing.

    Every culture in History has collapsed.
    There are those that will still be screaming `it cannot HAPPEN'....even as the last city burns around their ears.
    They will do nothing to ensure their own survival ..they will not lift a finger to prepare even the simplest emergency kit.

    Whether it is now, or ten years, or 50 years...it is coming.
    Your leaders...AND YOU....have turned your backs on that which made the US strong...and the rest is inevitable.

    Highball,I am kinda new to this board.And when I read your posts and I see where you type "y'all","yours",and "you" when referring to us as Americans and what is going on in our country lately.Where do you live if it is not here with the rest of "us"? Just curious.[:)]
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    I do not identify with people that insist upon living with their head buried in .....the sand.
    I do not identify with people that love, honor, and trust those in authority.
    I do not identify with those that believe that the government has the authority to control weapons in the hands of Citizens.
    That there is a whole swath of people that I cannot identify with.
  • SturmgewehrSturmgewehr Member Posts: 4,420
    edited November -1
    The world knows americia is on its knees [;)]
  • Ox190Ox190 Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If this happens I will be on a ranch in the middle of Texas and short of an air strike they won't be messing with us.
  • dgacdgac Member Posts: 694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dnelson457
    quote:I have been advising my fellow Americans for months to fore go presents this Christmas and instead, buy guns and ammunition. I reiterate that advice.

    But that would be a present to me.[:D]


    I thought all christmas presents were made of blued steel and brass too. They arent?

    dgac
  • xxx97xxx97 Member Posts: 5,721
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Where will the rednecks be? Just as long as Hooterville still exists.
    western pennsylvania....
  • breakerdanbreakerdan Member Posts: 364 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You really don't know how little I care what some pizz ant communist thinks. They are worthless
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