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Pistol in purse discharges wounding two
shilowar
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The Glock bashers will love this one. Poor gun safety, even in a purse a handgun needs to be holstered. This incident occurred about an hour or so away.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/franklin-county-couple-injured-after-woman-s-glock-goes-off/article_082a5597-0e98-534f-8d67-b168bc12d11f.html
Franklin County couple injured after woman's Glock goes off in purse
Franklin County Sheriff's Office officials say a woman was shot in both legs and her boyfriend shot through his hand after her gun went off in her purse Saturday afternoon.
Lt. Phillip Young said the woman's Glock went off while the couple sat in a vehicle outside a residence in the 1400 block of Virgil H. Goode Highway in Bassett about 3:30 p.m. The man, who was in the driver's seat, put a drink can in the woman's purse before putting his hand on her leg .
"[The bullet] went through his hand, through one of her legs near the knee area and then hit her other knee," Young said. "Her pocketbook was full of stuff. It's hard to say what made it go off."
Both the man and the woman were taken to Carilion Franklin Memorial Hospital. Their names, ages and conditions were not available Saturday evening.
Officials are investigating what caused the gun's discharge, Young said. No charges were filed Saturday.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/franklin-county-couple-injured-after-woman-s-glock-goes-off/article_082a5597-0e98-534f-8d67-b168bc12d11f.html
Franklin County couple injured after woman's Glock goes off in purse
Franklin County Sheriff's Office officials say a woman was shot in both legs and her boyfriend shot through his hand after her gun went off in her purse Saturday afternoon.
Lt. Phillip Young said the woman's Glock went off while the couple sat in a vehicle outside a residence in the 1400 block of Virgil H. Goode Highway in Bassett about 3:30 p.m. The man, who was in the driver's seat, put a drink can in the woman's purse before putting his hand on her leg .
"[The bullet] went through his hand, through one of her legs near the knee area and then hit her other knee," Young said. "Her pocketbook was full of stuff. It's hard to say what made it go off."
Both the man and the woman were taken to Carilion Franklin Memorial Hospital. Their names, ages and conditions were not available Saturday evening.
Officials are investigating what caused the gun's discharge, Young said. No charges were filed Saturday.
Comments
I find that story hard to believe...I think there is more to it than a simple accidental discharge of a firearm...
My ex calls her bag her "warehouse". She has things like a 6" pliers, 6-in-1 screwdriver, 4" cresent wrench and other such crap things. What with the way she tosses that bag around I could see a DAO revolver going off.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
By the way I refrain from putting anything in or taking anything out or even reaching into my wife's purse as I'm not convinced that there isn't a mouse trap in there too!
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock? quote:Originally posted by bpost
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
I carry a loaded Glock 21 everyday on the job and have for many years. It has yet to spontaneously go off on it's own. Keeping a defense pistol chamber empty is close to useless IMO.
It is pretty simple actually, if you respect the firearm, maintain it in a proper holster and handle it will the appropriate care and respect then you should never have a problem.
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock?
Just my take on it....On a double action revolver, the long, heavy trigger pull IS the manual safety.
I don't know about your HK, but a Glock's trigger pull is neither long, nor heavy. Someone here once described carrying a glock as the same as carrying a 1911 "cocked and unlocked". I think that sums it up best.
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock? quote:Originally posted by bpost
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
The lack of a manual safety is THE key issue for me. With a GLOCK or other non manual safety, striker fired gun carried concealed, life happens. Keys get dropped, purses get stuffed full, tools get put into pockets, and men put his hand on the wife's knee. Even in a holster, concealed with the trigger COMPLETELY covered to help reduce AD's it should have a positive manual safety.
The action of pulling out my GLOCK and chambering a round takes minor fractions of a second longer than just pulling it out of the safe and opening fire. If that fraction of a second means I get popped first, then it was my day to go. My home is set up to require breakage of glass to gain entry. That noise gives me plenty of time to get up chamber a round and engage any bad guys.
A manual safety being released adds the final human induced action needed to fire the weapon. The GLOCK could have a trigger blocking manual safety designed into it; if it did it would be the perfect gun to carry even better than the 1911.
quote:Originally posted by reload999
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock?
Just my take on it....On a double action revolver, the long, heavy trigger pull IS the manual safety.
I don't know about your HK, but a Glock's trigger pull is neither long, nor heavy. Someone here once described carrying a glock as the same as carrying a 1911 "cocked and unlocked". I think that sums it up best.
quote:Originally posted by reload999
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock? quote:Originally posted by bpost
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
The lack of a manual safety is THE key issue for me. With a GLOCK or other non manual safety, striker fired gun carried concealed, life happens. Keys get dropped, purses get stuffed full, tools get put into pockets, and men put his hand on the wife's knee. Even in a holster, concealed with the trigger COMPLETELY covered to help reduce AD's it should have a positive manual safety.
The action of pulling out my GLOCK and chambering a round takes minor fractions of a second longer than just pulling it out of the safe and opening fire. If that fraction of a second means I get popped first, then it was my day to go. My home is set up to require breakage of glass to gain entry. That noise gives me plenty of time to get up chamber a round and engage any bad guys.
A manual safety being released adds the final human induced action needed to fire the weapon. The GLOCK could have a trigger blocking manual safety designed into it; if it did it would be the perfect gun to carry even better than the 1911.
How the heck a Glock got to be everywhere is extremely puzzling to me.
An aggressive marketing campaign and VERY favorable police trade-in policy hooked American police departments.
Once Glocks came to be identified as the police officer's weapon of choice, it rapidly spread to the public..
http://www.siderlock.com/
http://cominolli.com/
How the heck a Glock got to be everywhere is extremely puzzling to me. OTOH, my Sr9c is close because of the junky safety that can, and has clicked off. It now gets stored in a $5 (hehe) Fobus that I fixed to be VERY secure in retaining and covering trigger. Very bulky storage thou.
Have not had that safety problem on my full size SR9. Maybe your SR9C has a defective part?
Manual safety kits for Glocks. Glock has used such kits to sell pistols in countries that do not accept their "Safe Action" as being safe enough.
http://www.siderlock.com/
http://cominolli.com/
Thanks Chris, both of those look to be exactly what is needed for this fine pistol. I think I would choose the traditional thumb safety install just be cause I'm ornery, but the trigger bolt looks to be perfectly adequate too.
quote:Originally posted by papernicker
How the heck a Glock got to be everywhere is extremely puzzling to me. OTOH, my Sr9c is close because of the junky safety that can, and has clicked off. It now gets stored in a $5 (hehe) Fobus that I fixed to be VERY secure in retaining and covering trigger. Very bulky storage thou.
Have not had that safety problem on my full size SR9. Maybe your SR9C has a defective part?
The safety works but is just too easily moved and too small at the same time. I like my GC, bubbaed ++ by me. I never messed with thumb safety, but it is perfect ;-} it never clicks off unless I want it too.
This is the ugliest cheapest looking hand gun I have ever owned the more I hold it and look at it the more repulsive it is. Oh and the slide release is a piece of thin sheet metal, man this thing sucks.
Watch for it over in auction side Yuk!
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
But I suppose I don't really mind the handbag carry so much. It just has to be done right. If there's a gun in the bag it has to mean the gun is the main reason the bag is there and other reasons for the bag are secondary. The gun is in a holster fixed inside the bag, it always presents to the hand the same way. The trigger is always protected. The other stuff in the bag are in pockets away from the gun, no mixing of junk with the gun compartment. The bag is always carried the same way, preferably a long strap diagonal across the body. The woman takes this setup to the range and practices with it.
Or, failing all that, she carries in some manner of on the body holster.
There are safer purse guns.....and after being a woman for 46 years I have dealt with everything imaginable.
There are purses with special compartments for guns....which is a lot like driving your car with your gun in the trunk because its safer there.
A revolver is the ONLY smart choice for a purse gun. Keeping something on you is better, but we all know that isn't possible some days.
A revolver in the part of the purse you can access quickly is a smart move because a revolver won't go off if someone "puts a can of soda in your purse" and it will work if your nasty purse fills the crevasses of your firearm with sand, gum wrappers, straw wrappers, and general garbage from the 80's.
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
A semi auto pistol is more likely to jam when a round is being chambered than at any other time. The last thing anyone needs to be doing is racking the slide to chamber a round when someone is breaking into their house on them. A gun will not fire if the trigger is not touched. So the solution is simple...keep your fingers and everything else off of the trigger and keep it in a holster!
Among other stuff I just got a nib baby glock 26 4 gen on a trade, not a gun I would deliberately buy it just happen as I wanted other items offered to me in the trade so it was take the glock or no deal.
This is the ugliest cheapest looking hand gun I have ever owned the more I hold it and look at it the more repulsive it is. Oh and the slide release is a piece of thin sheet metal, man this thing sucks.
Watch for it over in auction side Yuk!
you might want to try it before you dismiss it , every Glock 26 I've owned has been one heck of a shooter , they may not look like much but they sure do shoot
The 1911 has a grip safety no one seems interested in talking about.
The Glock is more like a cocked revolver and isn't treated as such.
A lot of revolvers don't even have single action trigger pulls as light as 3 1/2 pounds.
An elevator cam recently showed a couple where the man carelessly switched his Glock from pants pocket to jacket pocket.
It went off shooting him in the abdomen.
Having any gun rolling around in a purse is just stupid! Plain and simple. You are responsible for every bullet that comes out of that gun and MUST be in control of it at all times.
A Glock is not like a 1911 loaded with safety off.
The 1911 has a grip safety no one seems interested in talking about.
The Glock is more like a cocked revolver and isn't treated as such.
A lot of revolvers don't even have single action trigger pulls as light as 3 1/2 pounds.
An elevator cam recently showed a couple where the man carelessly switched his Glock from pants pocket to jacket pocket.
It went off shooting him in the abdomen.
YES!
I'd fired other people's 1911's and Glocks. Never came away wanting a Glock, but certainly did take a liking to the 1911's I tried out.
Always preferred the 1911, but never appreciated it fully until I owned one.
Plus, there's that wonderful sense of all the money staying right here in the good ol' USA [8D]
I think the point of the argument has been missed here. Its not the type of gun that matters.
Having any gun rolling around in a purse is just stupid! Plain and simple. You are responsible for every bullet that comes out of that gun and MUST be in control of it at all times.
Eggzactly.
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
quote:Originally posted by reload999
That's a pretty strong statement. Serious questions here...Not being a Glock person (never owned one) I've never really understood the controversy regarding the Glock trigger. What makes it any more dangerous than a loaded revolver? Is it the little "thingy" on the trigger that is prone to catch on something? I have a H&K P30L (no manual safety and no trigger thingy) DA/SA that I keep fully stoked with hammer decocked. Do you consider anything without a manual safety to be unsafe, or just the Glock? quote:Originally posted by bpost
I have GLOCK, a 21 it is my home defense gun. Unless the chamber is empty, as mine is kept; it is a dangerous firearm without a proper manual safety.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Anybody that says different needs to get up from the keyboard, go to the bathroom; looking deep into your eyes in the mirror say these words, "you are wrong" to yourself until it sinks in.
The lack of a manual safety is THE key issue for me. With a GLOCK or other non manual safety, striker fired gun carried concealed, life happens. Keys get dropped, purses get stuffed full, tools get put into pockets, and men put his hand on the wife's knee. Even in a holster, concealed with the trigger COMPLETELY covered to help reduce AD's it should have a positive manual safety.
The action of pulling out my GLOCK and chambering a round takes minor fractions of a second longer than just pulling it out of the safe and opening fire. If that fraction of a second means I get popped first, then it was my day to go. My home is set up to require breakage of glass to gain entry. That noise gives me plenty of time to get up chamber a round and engage any bad guys.
A manual safety being released adds the final human induced action needed to fire the weapon. The GLOCK could have a trigger blocking manual safety designed into it; if it did it would be the perfect gun to carry even better than the 1911.
I respectfully disagree, when I draw I want to shoot not thumb off a safety. The whole Glock mindset just doesn't work with a saa training. The point of the defensive gun is to draw and fire.
And dam, a loaded Glock in a purse out of a holster is just stupid, but you need to protect your escalade and your rims while getting yos baby momma checks gettincashed