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Jury Duty

JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
edited September 2010 in General Discussion
Well it seems like i have been called again. I am 51 and this is the second time i have been called.

The first time they kicked me off the panel.

2 black men rapped and killed a white woman and i was for the death penalty so they dismissed me.[V]
The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.

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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just checked and my number came up. So have to go in tomorrow.

    But today I checked the area to see where the designated parking and how to get to the Court house from there.

    Found the Area is Covered in the Sleeps Protesters. If it Flat and has grass or Concrete there are protestors. At least Sidewalks are free.

    Not sure if I want to go Since you cannot take any weapons with you to the Court house. Its 2 blocks from Parking to the Court House. Eugene is one big joke. Cause there are a lot of these protestors. They even are all around the Federal courthouse too.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:0][V][:(!]
    Third quarter
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have never been called to jury duty before and now, on Monday, I have to report to a district court for jury duty. No local county stuff for me, I go right up there with the big boys. I probably won't last long though. Two cases I know of that might be coming up are, one, a gun dealer's case. He was arrested by the ATF on firearms charges. I used to buy stuff at his pawn shop. Two, a case about the ten commandments in a local high school. I'm a church member. They'll probably think I'm prejudiced(I am). Any of you serve on juries? By the way, I've beeb told if I want off in a hurry all I have to do is wear a NRA tee shirt to the courthouse.

    Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So far this jury duty thing is a piece of cake. The first day I had to report for duty was Monday, 20 September. On Friday 17 September that was cancelled and my next date to report was Thursday, 30 September. Today they cancelled that and my next report date is 19 October.

    If this keeps up, and if this counts against my two month tour of jury duty, I could be finished with my jury duty before I have to go to the courthouse. [:D]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My wife is sitting on a jury today hearing a murder case.

    The weapon a knife, I don't know if it was registered or bought at a gun show.



    Steel is for guns Tupperware is for leftovers

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    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [xx(]They misspelled my name on the notice.Can I return it,"No one here by that name"? 2nd time in about a year[:(!]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The daughter had to call in today. She wasn't needed this mourning but ended up having to be there at 1:30 this afternoon. She pulled up to the house while I was unloading groceries. She told me to look at the back of her car. Yep she bounced off some hunkin piece of concrete and scratched up the back of her 2014 Honda pretty good.
    Now she says she has to go back tomorrow, lucky her.
    I have to go there Wednesday & Thursday. 6th. time I've had to go. $15 a day you get and it costs you $20 to park. I just fricken hate it. If the courthouse wasn't down town I could live with it. They used to have a jury parking lot where the jurors could park for free, but that went away with the Freeway reconstruction. I also took a ride down there on Sunday to show my daughter where to go. I also wanted to check on some street parking that I remember not having meters, well there are meters there now. Just sucks[:(][:(][:(][:(]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Starts Tuesday morning. I filled out the form about two months ago, and received the letter last week stating that I had been selected. I really can't afford to do it, but it is my civic duty. I have no idea what sort of case it is. I do trust myself to be fair and take into consideration all the facts and evidence presented, so I guess I'm a good choice. I will also be praying for wisdom and for justice to be served. Never done it before so I really don't know what to expect.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got a notice the same time last year.[:(!]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tuesday morning I am off to the Superior Court in Santa Ana for at least two days of "civic duty". I have gotten as far as the first selection for criminal cases, but once the court learns that I am a firearms dealer I am dismissed with a "thank you for your service Mr. Chrisitan, but we won't be needing you" and out I go. You'd think I could at least serve on a civil suit, but I never land on one of these cases and the entire jury duty service is just a huge waste of my time. Has anyone here ever sat on a jury of a serious case...say murder? How long did the trial last and what was your verdict?

    Mark T. Christian
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Michael Vick's worst nightmare...

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    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here I go again.

    Gotta show up for jury duty tomorrow. Seems about every 6 months. Way too often.

    There doesn't seem to be enough folks that qualify as jurors available in this county.

    What do I have to do, commit a crime?

    How about ya? How do you get out of it?
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Received my notice yesterday that I was picked for jury duty for the Federal Court in Des Moines. This could be interesting.

    Would be great to sit on jury for someone who is being tried for a firearm violation, such as having a class III weapon or sawed off shotgun. NOT GUILTY![:D]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didnt want to highjack torosapo's thread....I know an issue with serving jury duty comes down to the pay....some employers will pay you your daily wage while you serve....and some cant/won't....if you were to get your daily wage each day you served as a juror would you be more willing to serve....serious question.....reloader44mag
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am on call all this week. Today I didnt have it. 4 days left....I have never been on a jury before.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kid at school just missed two days of Class and he was behind before that.

    I was just on jury Duty and they let students off all you have to do is say you are a student.

    What was funny was one of the guys who is a Mexican was saying how his Dad gets out of it. He just claims he is an illegal. And they let him go every time. His dad was born here.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    Here's a line that will get you out of jury duty everytime.

    "No, I'm not racist! Why is it a n___r?"

    Make sure that you get excited at the end of the question. [:D]
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been on jury duty so many times I have forgotten the number.
    I have been selected for two civil trials & five criminal trials(one frderal). The last was a one month murder trial.
    From now on when they ask can you be fair my answer will be, NO.
    How can I be fair to either side when I can't stay awake? Since I have retired I stay up late at night & wake up late in the day.
    To get up early enough to get to court I can not stay awake much less alert. Simply going to bed earlier can't change the routine I have gotten into.
    Besides my snoring bothers the other jurors.
  • Simple ManSimple Man Member Posts: 3,252
    edited November -1
    They should change the rules for being choosen for jury duty.

    1.) You must be retired
    2.) You can't be on any kind of welfare
    3.) No felonies
    4.) You can't have a life [:D]
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    5) Must be a property owner.(real estate)
    6) Must be a WHITE MALE, over 25.
    7) Must be a registered voter in the County where trial takes place.
    8) Must have no contact with law enforcement within the last 3 years.
    10) Must have at least one MALE child, INSIDE of wedlock.
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get a op ed piece published in the local paper that says you support your local police, if they arrest someone they're probably guilty especially if they are (insert racial slur here). Or, tell them you have to pee often. This disrupts the court proceedings.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D]
    What's next?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tell them you have a family member in Law Enforcement and can't be impartial...you get your walking papers immediately
  • VinhlongVet71VinhlongVet71 Member Posts: 4,605
    edited November -1
    I was on a jury last week. Took us 2 hrs to convict a man of 1st
    degree murder of his son. Judge gave him 25 years.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been called twice, but they never chose me, or my jurer number was too high. One time I had to go back three days in a row.
  • FWAdditFWAddit Member Posts: 918 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
    Get a op ed piece published in the local paper that says you support your local police, if they arrest someone they're probably guilty especially if they are (insert racial slur here). Or, tell them you have to pee often. This disrupts the court proceedings.


    This should get you on the jury, not off. Defendants are supposed to have a jury of peers.
  • ToolfogieToolfogie Member Posts: 1,254 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FWAddit

    This should get you on the jury, not off. Defendants are supposed to have a jury of peers.


    OMG! That is sooo bad, it's hilarious. Nothing like a great pun.[:D]
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Is Jury Nullification (by definition) expressly barred/banned in any jurisdiction?

    Or is it a fallback, whereby if there's no law, jurors can excersise nullification?

    Is nullification codefied in the law books? Thanks, Joe
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lived in the same spot since 94 and they have never picked Me yet.


    Wonder what is in my record.[:o)]


    Guy I work with Just got his notice. So He called them up to get out of it. Since he is a felon, they did not care told him he had to show up anyway.
  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Is Jury Nullification (by definition) expressly barred/banned in any jurisdiction?

    Or is it a fallback, whereby if there's no law, jurors can excersise nullification?

    Is nullification codefied in the law books? Thanks, Joe

    I don't think it is prohibited anywhere, but you could probably see a few raised eyebrows if you mentioned it during jury delection.[:D]
    (I wonder if it worries prosecuters or defense attys most)
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last time I got jury duty the wife bought me this gag t-shirt haven't been called since to try it out.

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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Is Jury Nullification (by definition) expressly barred/banned in any jurisdiction?

    Or is it a fallback, whereby if there's no law, jurors can excersise nullification?

    Is nullification codefied in the law books? Thanks, Joe

    This is as close as Halifax County comes to addressing jury nullification. If the question comes up I'll be happy to explain why they are wrong. [;)] [:D]

    quote:the answer book for JURY SERVICE

    What are jury instructions?

    Jury instructions tell the jury what the laws are that govern a particular case. Each attorney

    gives the judge a set of proposed jury instructions. The judge considers each instruction and gives the ones that properly state the law that applies to the case. The jurors must accept and follow the law as instructed by the judge even though they may have a different idea about what the law is or ought to be.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • FWAdditFWAddit Member Posts: 918 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Is Jury Nullification (by definition) expressly barred/banned in any jurisdiction?

    Or is it a fallback, whereby if there's no law, jurors can excersise nullification?

    Is nullification codefied in the law books? Thanks, Joe

    This is as close as Halifax County comes to addressing jury nullification. If the question comes up I'll be happy to explain why they are wrong. [;)] [:D]

    quote:the answer book for JURY SERVICE

    What are jury instructions?

    Jury instructions tell the jury what the laws are that govern a particular case. Each attorney

    gives the judge a set of proposed jury instructions. The judge considers each instruction and gives the ones that properly state the law that applies to the case. The jurors must accept and follow the law as instructed by the judge even though they may have a different idea about what the law is or ought to be.


    What about judges who "have a different idea about what the law is or ought to be"? Conservatives call them "activist judges" and oppose them mightily. Wouldn't jury nullification require an "activist jury"? If we think laws should be made in the legislature and adjudicated (but not made) in the courts, then we should oppose activism by either judges or juries. If we think juries should be able to change the laws, we should also recognize that judges can do the same.
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FWAddit
    quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
    Get a op ed piece published in the local paper that says you support your local police, if they arrest someone they're probably guilty especially if they are (insert racial slur here). Or, tell them you have to pee often. This disrupts the court proceedings.


    This should get you on the jury, not off. Defendants are supposed to have a jury of peers.


    LOL
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FWAddit
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Is Jury Nullification (by definition) expressly barred/banned in any jurisdiction?

    Or is it a fallback, whereby if there's no law, jurors can excersise nullification?

    Is nullification codefied in the law books? Thanks, Joe

    This is as close as Halifax County comes to addressing jury nullification. If the question comes up I'll be happy to explain why they are wrong. [;)] [:D]

    quote:the answer book for JURY SERVICE

    What are jury instructions?

    Jury instructions tell the jury what the laws are that govern a particular case. Each attorney

    gives the judge a set of proposed jury instructions. The judge considers each instruction and gives the ones that properly state the law that applies to the case. The jurors must accept and follow the law as instructed by the judge even though they may have a different idea about what the law is or ought to be.


    What about judges who "have a different idea about what the law is or ought to be"? Conservatives call them "activist judges" and oppose them mightily. Wouldn't jury nullification require an "activist jury"? If we think laws should be made in the legislature and adjudicated (but not made) in the courts, then we should oppose activism by either judges or juries. If we think juries should be able to change the laws, we should also recognize that judges can do the same.


    If a jury follows a judge's(prosecutor in a robe) instructions they are acting on his behalf and not using their own noggins.

    This is how so many people get convicted for things they don't do.

    I don't understand why "citizens" don't act as though they are in charge in this country.
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