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Wormhole theory of space time travel
JamesRK
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I think I found a discrepancy in the wormhole theory.
Everything I know about black holes, white holes and wormholes I learned from the Science Channel, including the theory of traveling through a wormhole to get to places impossible to get to in a lifetime even at light speed.
According to the Science Channel theory black holes and white holes occasionally collide or merge creating a wormhole. The black hole sucks you up and deposits you into the wormhole. The white hole spits you out of the wormhole into a different time and place in the universe.
If the people at the Science Channel watched the Science Channel they would know part of the process of getting sucked into a black hole is you get spaghettified. So, you might wind up in another time and place in the universe but you'd never know it because you would be dead from spaghettification in all times and places. There is no known cure for spaghettification.
Everything I know about black holes, white holes and wormholes I learned from the Science Channel, including the theory of traveling through a wormhole to get to places impossible to get to in a lifetime even at light speed.
According to the Science Channel theory black holes and white holes occasionally collide or merge creating a wormhole. The black hole sucks you up and deposits you into the wormhole. The white hole spits you out of the wormhole into a different time and place in the universe.
If the people at the Science Channel watched the Science Channel they would know part of the process of getting sucked into a black hole is you get spaghettified. So, you might wind up in another time and place in the universe but you'd never know it because you would be dead from spaghettification in all times and places. There is no known cure for spaghettification.
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According to relativity, if you accelerate close to relativistic speed you gain mass. To be accelerated to relativistic speeds the amount of energy required is as much as that of a star.
People tend to think of space time as flat. Extreme gravity as that of a black hole warps and curves space time. Special relativity would make allowances for situations when black holes close enough to influence each others gravitational field. Such an event could create what has been described by physicists as a wormhole; a link between the pair.
There is only one cure, and it's more cow bells.
That's what we need is more cow bells. You can never have to many cow bells.
When some brainiac starts his diatribe on all that BS. I digress to the reality of life and God.
Millions upon millions of your tax dollars has gone into this and nothing conclusive.
It wreaks of trying to measure spirituality with a tape measure.
The whole premise revolves around a theory that is not even proven. Black holes do not exist.
Millions upon millions of your tax dollars has gone into this and nothing conclusive.
It wreaks of trying to measure spirituality with a tape measure.
So the best minds in the fields of physics and astro-physics are not as smart as you?
If our ancestors had stuck to your way of thinking we'd all still be sitting around a cave mouth waiting for someone to discover how to control fire.
Go in head first by the way.
Once you get there how do you get back if your forgot your wallet or glasses?
Use the navigation app on your cell phone! Duh![:D]
quote:Originally posted by mag00
The whole premise revolves around a theory that is not even proven. Black holes do not exist.
Millions upon millions of your tax dollars has gone into this and nothing conclusive.
It wreaks of trying to measure spirituality with a tape measure.
So the best minds in the fields of physics and astro-physics are not as smart as you?
If our ancestors had stuck to your way of thinking we'd all still be sitting around a cave mouth waiting for someone to discover how to control fire.
I know I know, Obama is your savior, and what they tell you is true and you don't need to challenge it with reason and thought.
All the pretty bells and streamers fascinate you, I get that, but at some point you have to look past the bull and parse the reality. And the reality is the "science", from these experts you revere, is built on fiction.
Believe what you wish. I know better. [8D]
Most folks here will tell you that spaghetti westerns are most favorable compared to other venues. [;)]
quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
quote:Originally posted by mag00
The whole premise revolves around a theory that is not even proven. Black holes do not exist.
Millions upon millions of your tax dollars has gone into this and nothing conclusive.
It wreaks of trying to measure spirituality with a tape measure.
So the best minds in the fields of physics and astro-physics are not as smart as you?
If our ancestors had stuck to your way of thinking we'd all still be sitting around a cave mouth waiting for someone to discover how to control fire.
I know I know, Obama is your savior, and what they tell you is true and you don't need to challenge it with reason and thought.
All the pretty bells and streamers fascinate you, I get that, but at some point you have to look past the bull and parse the reality. And the reality is the "science", from these experts you revere, is built on fiction.
Believe what you wish. I know better. [8D]
Them's fightin' words, Magoo!
if you could re-create the human body molecule for molecule, the resultant re-creation would have the same brain, in the same state, and therefore the same memory and consciousness.
but, if you could do that from pure energy, what's the point of waiting for it to go through a black hole first? you could use the energy from anywhere. and then what's the point of using a black hole or a wormhole, may as well skip it and use the process to teleport.
anyways the material/energy that gets sucked into a black hole is going to stay there forever. nobody and nothing can get it out, except for the vaporization process where a black hole fizzles out and evaporates over trillions of years.
Basic teleportation can do no better than relativistic velocities. The promise of black hole spaghettification is not only translocation in excess of light speed, but translocation in excess of Warp X.
If you will remember, the Delta Flyer reached the trans-warp threshold, resulting the possibility of being everywhere at once, suggesting that proper application of black hole spaghettification, which includes the application of directability determination allows for near-instantaneous translocation virtually anywhere throughout infinity and beyond.
One should be careful to remember that black-hole spaghettification and translocation does not correlate to a velocity in excess of that of the speed of light. The translocation is a result of the control warping of space-time such that the path to the destination is shortened, enabling sub-light speed vehicular transport to translocate at apparent super-light speeds.
Brad Steele
All this pseudo science has the making for the ultimate cult worship funded by the people. The liberal sciences trying to get a foothold next to God. Maybe Trump will start funding Christian science? How would you like that?
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
quote:Originally posted by mag00
The whole premise revolves around a theory that is not even proven. Black holes do not exist.
Millions upon millions of your tax dollars has gone into this and nothing conclusive.
It wreaks of trying to measure spirituality with a tape measure.
So the best minds in the fields of physics and astro-physics are not as smart as you?
If our ancestors had stuck to your way of thinking we'd all still be sitting around a cave mouth waiting for someone to discover how to control fire.
I know I know, Obama is your savior, and what they tell you is true and you don't need to challenge it with reason and thought.
All the pretty bells and streamers fascinate you, I get that, but at some point you have to look past the bull and parse the reality. And the reality is the "science", from these experts you revere, is built on fiction.
Believe what you wish. I know better. [8D]
Them's fightin' words, Magoo!
Phut em uuup.
Find your Zen with S2K, another way to share the truth.[8D]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
(black hole whisperers)
You forgot the green font Don.
All this pseudo science has the making for the ultimate cult worship funded by the people. The liberal sciences trying to get a foothold next to God. Maybe Trump will start funding Christian science? How would you like that?
Cult Worship? Your quvHa' is showing.
If the liberal sciences wish to attempt to learn how to properly use the tools God has provided, who are you to discount their efforts?
Christian Science? It has its place, but is bounded by infinity. True understanding and proper utilization of God's gifts will require we go further.
Brad Steele
You'd need a Higher Power.
And a bigger boat.
Assuming that translocation utilizing theoretical phenomena in outer space would deposit ALL the "energy", or "you" in the curvatures of time/space at the same time/place takes a lot of faith.
You'd need a Higher Power.
And a bigger boat.
I am pretty sure all you need is a towel.
Brad Steele
Aside from photons (particles of light), no other particles reach the speed of light until they hit the event horizon (the point at which even photons can't scape the black hole). At that particular point, the matter reaches the speed of light. However, time dilation kicks in at this point in such a manner that to an outside observer, matter seems to actually stop at the event horizon and not fall in. General relativity is a * to understand, but quite amazing.
As to science vs religion, every time science and religion have disagreed, science emerged victorious. Otherwise we'd still live on a flat earth with the sun and the universe revolving around us with no imperfections on the moon surface. There is nothing liberal or conservative about science, it's based on pure facts and proof. Whereas religion is the realm of "just trust what I say and don't question me". Sounds like my last used-car salesman. If you truly want to find god, what better way of finding him/her than understanding his ultimate creation through actual observation.
I just read a short bit about Einstien and his theory and in another page in the search a scientist proved his theory because they heard the waves of 2 black holes. REALLY, gravity so strong it traps light but not sound? Oh wait, sound don't happen in a vacuum.
And I might ask what tools, or measuring apparatus is used to prove that the alleged vacuum of space is really nothing?
I'm sure you can quote some mumbo jumbo of how some yet unprovable phenomenon is responsible. I ain't buying it.
So keep on measuring spirituality with your tape measure.
And for all the money spent on "science" (private and public money), I am not aware of anyone crushing a grain or seed and reassembling it and having it germinate and grow. Ponder that one for awhile. Your "Science Gurus" are pretenders.
If God is everywhere, God is within me. If I need to speak to God, I shall do so.
If we are Children of God, what do we grow up to be?
And at some point you will have to grow up and face reality. [}:)]
If you get off on these" theories", maybe you will enjoy the works of Thomas Aquinas. [:D]
There it is. Confusing science with black hole theory. Cult religion, that is all it is. Needs to be defunded. Space exploration, landing on the moon or Mars- Science. Looking for God as the reason, not so much.
I just read a short bit about Einstien and his theory and in another page in the search a scientist proved his theory because they heard the waves of 2 black holes. REALLY, gravity so strong it traps light but not sound? Oh wait, sound don't happen in a vacuum.
And I might ask what tools, or measuring apparatus is used to prove that the alleged vacuum of space is really nothing?
I'm sure you can quote some mumbo jumbo of how some yet unprovable phenomenon is responsible. I ain't buying it.
So keep on measuring spirituality with your tape measure.
And for all the money spent on "science" (private and public money), I am not aware of anyone crushing a grain or seed and reassembling it and having it germinate and grow. Ponder that one for awhile. Your "Science Gurus" are pretenders.
If God is everywhere, God is within me. If I need to speak to God, I shall do so.
If we are Children of God, what do we grow up to be?
And at some point you will have to grow up and face reality. [}:)]
If you get off on these" theories", maybe you will enjoy the works of Thomas Aquinas. [:D]
All I can say regarding Science vs Religion is that prayers for healing became a lot more effective once modern medicine came about.
Maybe God cared less for people in the Dark Ages.
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by mag00
There it is. Confusing science with black hole theory. Cult religion, that is all it is. Needs to be defunded. Space exploration, landing on the moon or Mars- Science. Looking for God as the reason, not so much.
I just read a short bit about Einstien and his theory and in another page in the search a scientist proved his theory because they heard the waves of 2 black holes. REALLY, gravity so strong it traps light but not sound? Oh wait, sound don't happen in a vacuum.
And I might ask what tools, or measuring apparatus is used to prove that the alleged vacuum of space is really nothing?
I'm sure you can quote some mumbo jumbo of how some yet unprovable phenomenon is responsible. I ain't buying it.
So keep on measuring spirituality with your tape measure.
And for all the money spent on "science" (private and public money), I am not aware of anyone crushing a grain or seed and reassembling it and having it germinate and grow. Ponder that one for awhile. Your "Science Gurus" are pretenders.
If God is everywhere, God is within me. If I need to speak to God, I shall do so.
If we are Children of God, what do we grow up to be?
And at some point you will have to grow up and face reality. [}:)]
If you get off on these" theories", maybe you will enjoy the works of Thomas Aquinas. [:D]
All I can say regarding Science vs Religion is that prayers for healing became a lot more effective once modern medicine came about.
Maybe God cared less for people in the Dark Ages.
Equating correlation with causation is a very common error.
So is conjuring answers out of thin air.
My original point was I find it mildly humorous that with all the cash and brain power that goes into cosmology speculating, some of the theories appear to not to be thought through very well. One generally accepted theory is made impossible by another generally accepted theory.
There is nothing unusual about people coming to totally different conclusions from the same set of facts but it still baffles me how anyone can look at what we think we know about the known universe and still doubt the existence of God.