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Disability (?)
we_dig_it
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I was talking to a small business owner today who was upset he was losing one of his best employees to disability. The reason he was so upset was the grounds his disability was approved upon. The man couldnt read or write. Since when is this a reason to draw a check?? He will draw $1000 per month check, $1000 per month for food stamps, and 3 cell phones for his family.[V] Really?? Cell phones too?? I guess Obama wants everyone dependent on the Govt........
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But it is still a govt program, right?
Yep
http://www.fcc.gov/lifeline
What was the job that the man held before he left to collect $250 per week in cash and $250 in food?
Mark, he worked on a mulch yard. He helped load trucks, etc.
Not too surprised that literacy is now part of the game.
We are so screwed.[xx(]
A cell phone program? I'll have to take a look at that, later.
It is VERY easy to fall into the victim trap, it is so easy for people to fall into the grasp of government. It takes willful forethought and determination to avoid the traps created by government created victim-hood. The system is designed to punish you for your independence.
quote:Originally posted by mark christian
What was the job that the man held before he left to collect $250 per week in cash and $250 in food?
Mark, he worked on a mulch yard. He helped load trucks, etc.
I am going to take my usual unpopular GB stand and say that it is probably not totally his fault. I am betting that someone told him about the disability program and gave him tips about what to say and what to do in order to qualify. This is not unlike the "tax advisors" who give tips to illegal aliens to avoid paying any income taxes. The hispanic and Chinese aliens working here illegally don't think that stuff up for themselves, someone tells them what to do. I recall a forum member who was on some sort of disability from the military who was unable to do any sort of work but often told us stories about his hunting trips and even (if I remember right) a white water rafting adventure!
He NEVER drew any food stamps or any other assistance. I used to make out checks for him and he sign them. He could not read or write BUT he was a math genious.
I wonder how a man working NOW can get disability when one of the main things that determines if you are eligable or not is if you can work a 8 hour day without limitations. He is doing so now so I suspect this is only partially correct as to the reason he got didability.
Im not against disability for people who need it. The man who shoes all my horses cant read or write and he has shod horses for 35+ years. He would never think of drawing a check. I can see where not being able to read and write could hinder you in life, but never go to the level of not working and being dependent on the Govt.
I have to applaud your horseshoer's attitude, but for some reason I hate to see horseshoers being used as an example of illiteracy.
I also shod horses for over 35 years, put two kids through college doing it, and like to think I had a successful career.
Part of why I made this business work, I think, is that I never stopped studying the trade, tried to keep an open mind, and worked with some of the top equine veterinarians in Texas. It would never have worked for me if I couldn't read or write. Although reading and writing are not essential for using your brain.
Contrary to a lot of opinions, horseshoeing has a lot more to do with your brain muscle than it does your back muscles.
I'm sorry, rant over.
A few years ago I know of a woman that got Disability for the reason of "being to fat and ugly to get a job". That was the reason, I saw it with my on eyes.
quote:Originally posted by we_dig_it
Im not against disability for people who need it. The man who shoes all my horses cant read or write and he has shod horses for 35+ years. He would never think of drawing a check. I can see where not being able to read and write could hinder you in life, but never go to the level of not working and being dependent on the Govt.
I have to applaud your horseshoer's attitude, but for some reason I hate to see horseshoers being used as an example of illiteracy.
I also shod horses for over 35 years, put two kids through college doing it, and like to think I had a successful career.
Part of why I made this business work, I think, is that I never stopped studying the trade, tried to keep an open mind, and worked with some of the top equine veterinarians in Texas. It would never have worked for me if I couldn't read or write. Although reading and writing are not essential for using your brain.
Contrary to a lot of opinions, horseshoeing has a lot more to do with your brain muscle than it does your back muscles.
I'm sorry, rant over.
Oldrider, I didnt mean to single him out. My farrier is a dear friend of mine and my family. As a matter of fact he just left my barn about 30 minutes ago. He is the only person that I know that cannot read. He is no dummy, he is very smart. I actually knew him 2 or 3 years before I found out he couldnt read. He knows anything I have is his and Im sure he feels the same. I guess in a way Im bragging on him, because I know he would never draw a check, and he has built a good business, even though he cant read and write.
I really agree that most people who can make their living bent over under a horse are not looking for a government handout.
quote:Originally posted by we_dig_it
quote:Originally posted by mark christian
What was the job that the man held before he left to collect $250 per week in cash and $250 in food?
Mark, he worked on a mulch yard. He helped load trucks, etc.
I am going to take my usual unpopular GB stand and say that it is probably not totally his fault. I am betting that someone told him about the disability program and gave him tips about what to say and what to do in order to qualify. This is not unlike the "tax advisors" who give tips to illegal aliens to avoid paying any income taxes. The hispanic and Chinese aliens working here illegally don't think that stuff up for themselves, someone tells them what to do. I recall a forum member who was on some sort of disability from the military who was unable to do any sort of work but often told us stories about his hunting trips and even (if I remember right) a white water rafting adventure!
I've said it before and I'll say it again: 1/3 to 1/2 of the people regularly posting on this board are on disability or some other form of government assistance.
You fellas missed a good one. I get a letter about once a year asking me to go back to work with an "assistant" I looked into this and SS will pay a person to go to work with me to do the things I cant. While working like this if I earn $500/month they just subtract that from my SS, but they pay the assistant full time. Is that wild or what?
I am trying but cant think of the name this program is called.
Try calling SS about a person who is drawing SS and working a 40 hour job, they just flat dont care. I have been told by folks (not SS people) that it just costs more to hunt down the frauds than they would save. Hell with that attitude no wonder the fraud is so bad.
Myself I was sent a copy of a bill from SS for a Dr I had never heard of. Called my Dr's office and asked if they knew anything about him. Yes they did he was a surgeon that specializes in intestines. Well I never had any such work so called SS, the phone number was on the back of the paper I had. The 45 minute wait on the phone was bad. Then I get a woman that almost spoke english. She got my info and I told her I never saw this Dr, she said it happens a simple mistake with a SS number could so this. She put a stop on the payment. I was happy, I did the right thing. 7 months later I get a notice that they paid the bill anyway. That is our Gov. at work.
Now ask yourself, why do people take advantage of the system?
One person did every drug in the world..fried there brains & gets SS. On top of this, their parents get paid by the county to do laundry, housework & cook meals for them.[:(!]
Another person smoked all their life, gets emphysema, and is now drawing a SS check because they claim they can't work because of lung issue. They are still smoking the damn cofin nails too.[:(!]
What ever happened to taking responsiblity for yourself?