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Remarkably intact FW-190 in forest

chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
Found in a forest outside of Leningrad, it evidently went down from engine failure after an attack on a Russian train.

This Fw-190 is in the States being restored, but the video of where it was found is really cool.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/03/my-entry.html


~Chris

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  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    how come they never find bones in these intact finds?
  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Critters eat everything!!
  • legearlegear Member Posts: 6,716
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
    how come they never find bones in these intact finds?


    wildlife
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's to say the pilot didn't survive... ?
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Be really neat to stumble upon history like that--thanks
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
    how come they never find bones in these intact finds?



    Whoever stumbled upon it first probably would have tossed any remains aside, in the hunt for MGs and cannons.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    What's to say the pilot didn't survive... ?


    story says he survived the landing and 15 years in a prison camp. which was HIGHLY unusual according to the flight group statistics.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,493 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Absolutely stunning to do a restoration to bring it back to life.
  • ManygunsManyguns Member Posts: 3,837
    edited November -1
    That's a pretty cool story, thanks for sharing.
    Tom
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    [8D][8D][8D][8D]
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,668 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It was called "The Butcher Bird" by allied pilots, who knew and feared it.

    What a great story! The German pilots were involved in fantastic combat on the Eastern Front.

    Just imagine if the Wehrmacht had not exhausted itself in those massive battles in the East.
    Eisenhower wouldn't have been President in 1953, he would have been in a German POW camp.
  • utbrowningmanutbrowningman Member Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
    how come they never find bones in these intact finds?

    In that condition, he probably walked away.
  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    It was called "The Butcher Bird" by allied pilots, who knew and feared it.

    What a great story! The German pilots were involved in fantastic combat on the Eastern Front.

    Just imagine if the Wehrmacht had not exhausted itself in those massive battles in the East.
    Eisenhower wouldn't have been President in 1953, he would have been in a German POW camp.


    They were massive battles indeed. Hence, the extremely high kill ratios of the German pilots to allied pilots. Many aces were over 200 kills-- Hartman, Barkhorn, and Moelders to name a few.
    Also, there was no combat rotation for the Germans. They fought until they were killed or the war ended.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what rotation they did was from eastern front to western front some choice huh??
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    There are massive forests in the East, and much still remains there waiting to be discovered. The Soviets looked for Lilya Litviak's crash site for over 40 years, and she was not found until Gorbachev was in office. It was the dogged persistence of Komsomol, that finally paid off. The Soviets needed the discovery, as the award of Hero of the Soviet Union, their highest combat award, awaited Litviak. And Soviet Heads of State don't take a casual attitude towards MIA's, especially towards ones who became legendary.

    Great Britain is still discovering crash sites that never gave the appearance of being one, even when they were new. A lot of fighters were lost in night actions, and went in going straight down, literally burying themselves. One English farmer had a Spitfire crash in that manner only about 50 yards from his house one night, but he said that he never suspected that it was a crash site. It was more like a lightning strike, with only disturbed ground - and a few strips of aluminum of unknown origin, laying about. Decades later, someone took the anecdotal story and figured out what had happened, and excavated the site. The pilot's bone shards were strung out vertically for 17 feet, below which was the engine. And nonetheless, the pilot was identified, another MIA who finally made it home.
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