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Guns for Blue Water Boats?
andrewsw16
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This gets into foreign law, but, with the danger of modern pirates, what do you guys recommend for firearms defense of your boat? Keep in mind that your boat will probably be inspected when it stops in a foreign port and they usually do NOT honor the U.S. Second Amendment. The danger of pirates might also apply to one or two lakes on our southern border.
A few years ago I thought I saw someone selling a dayglo orange shotgun that was being sold as a "livesaving linethrower", (at least that's your story when the foreign customs officer spots it in the cabin), but, by SHEER coincidence [;)] was 12 ga and COULD chamber standard shotgun pellet and slug loads.
A few years ago I thought I saw someone selling a dayglo orange shotgun that was being sold as a "livesaving linethrower", (at least that's your story when the foreign customs officer spots it in the cabin), but, by SHEER coincidence [;)] was 12 ga and COULD chamber standard shotgun pellet and slug loads.
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Almost any short barreled shot gun could be used for that purpose.
excellent choice!
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
http://www.urban-armory.com/cart/proddetail.php?*=mk19
it makes a shotgun seem mighty silly
For blue water, I'd highly recommend adding a 12 ga.
I think mossberg had a marine environment version?
or this:
40MM mount. Memories.
Link
http://www.noonsite.com/Members/doina/R2005-12-09-3
The bottomline is:
Pump Shotgun is the best choice from a legal standpoint. Know the law and declare the weapon when you reach a port.
This is a great site that tell you the laws of most country's
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/guns_aboard.html
As bad guys get closer, the shotgun becomes more valuable. Especially if boarded.
http://www.bluewaterboats.com/
35 Whelen - many moons ago I used to be a 2nd loader on a
40MM mount. Memories.
I bet.[8D][:)]
I'm a bit of a fan of the 40mm myself.[:D][;)]
An inspection is far different than a search.
I would not recommend.
But I sail with at least one solid handgun in coastal waters.
If I were doing the trip you are suggesting, I would purchase a cheap shotgun that I wouldn't mind losing (with appropriate slugs and buckshot), a rusty machete, a sharp gaff hook, triple the required solas aerial flares and launcher, and 5 or so hand held flares.
I would declare the shotgun and ammo upon first contact with the appropriate local authorities.
And I wouldn't get twisted up if I didn't get it back.
At least the outbound leg was covered.
And I would develop a survivor mindset.
That means, if you approach my vessel at sea with hostile intent, you are going to get at least two flares shot down your companionway if I can. And several handheld flares tossed on your deck.
Now we are all fighting for the same thing. Survival.
And you can't risk significant damage to my boat. Or you'll die.
That's what the machete and hook on a stick are for.
Show up on deck with a lit hand held flare dripping * off the leeward rail, with a rusty machete in your other hand...
If they don't give you maneuvering room, you're in for a fight.
But a good radio, and sufficient distance is probably your best defense. [:D]
This would be my list for defensive equipment in the Caribbean.
- Beater Pump Shotgun with 50 slugs, 50 buckshot and a box of #6
- Good Machete sharp as hell
- Wrist rocket sling shot with a big bag of marbles
- A flare gun with about 20 flares and about 20 hand flares.
- maybe a Molotov cocktail or 2
A sat phone is handy too sometimes.
I'd advise a handgun also, with ready replacement magazines. 9mm or .45 ACP. No one can deny you a self defense weapon like that, in my opinion...but I could be wrong.
We're talking BLUE WATER...so you want range. That's why I recommended the .50 Barrett.
Damn that's smart!!!
When you say Blue water boats this is what comes to mind. Since I worked there many years ago making their Aluminum boats.
http://www.bluewaterboats.com/
Blue Water Boat
Do not declare and keep hidden or lose.[:o)]
Wrist Rocket.
Damn that's smart!!!
I pack a wrist rocket every where I go[:D]
My Dad and Uncle used to take me offshore fishing out of Titusville Fl. We would cruse all the way to Bermuda sometimes(In the 70's). I always took a wrist rocket to shoot stuff.
I take one with me to Africa when I go. Once you get good with one they can be a formidable weapon and a great survival tool. The good thing is they are innocent looking.
Cool boat, willie.[:D] Do you take it to the Caribbean or just cruise offshore?
Charles, I mainly sailed around the bay...some offshore...after I bought the boat I got more busy than usual, and the boat sat at the Grand Hotel @ Point Clear for around five years...I bought it from a guy that rigged it out at Turtle Cove in Kentucky,then sailed to Bimini! VIA Stuart Fl....he came back to Ft. Morgan,and found out he had cancer...end of story,except I was on my way to Texas for a deer hunt in San Angelo,and a broker called me with a prospect who had seen the boat at the "Grand"..and made me an offer I couldn't refuse...can you say large "Profit"...first time I ever made money off of a boat.