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Best 32 for concealed cover

pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
edited June 2017 in General Discussion
any advice? Real knowledge?....use etc.. weight is a factor...Thanks for your reply
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  • M1A762M1A762 Member Posts: 3,426
    edited November -1
    If I wanted to or had to carry a .32acp my first choice would be a Colt 1903. Second choice would be a Walther PPK. Even better would be the .380 version of either pistol.

    Both are steel and not light as the keltec or seecamp, but a Colt 1903 or Walther PPK WILL go bang when called upon to do so, and will keep going bang until the ammunition in said pistol is depleted.

    Neither are cheap, buy once cry once.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look as the Sauer 38h. The most advanced pocket pistol ever made.

    Hammer fired, not striker. Hammer is completely enclosed so it NEVER snags on anything. It's also double action or single action.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pwillie,

    'Best' is going to cover a wide range of opinions since we all have opinions about our personal needs.

    If you feel that small and light are the most important features of this question then eliminate everything from that category except the small and light. I assume that the Seekamp is in the running...

    I am not overly concerned about small and light so I alternate between a Mauser HSc, Mauser 1914 and a Colt 1903. These are all steel pistols but are not necessarily small either although they are concealable when I choose the proper clothing or holster.

    Mostly though this can be a nuisance since we have open carry. Here, the problem is the effect on the snowflakes who don't read or have an understanding of the laws in our state. Being considerate of their health and well being often has me choosing concealed over open just to prevent heart failure or apoplexy.

    The Mauser HSc is my favorite because of form, function and accuracy.

    Best.
  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seems like the Keltec .32 is the irreduceable minimum.
    Anything bigger and you can just as easily have a .380 or even 9mm P.
    Yes, I know you can get the Keltec and several similar in .380, too; which makes it a nasty little kicker.
  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
    Seems like the Keltec .32 is the irreduceable minimum.
    Anything bigger and you can just as easily have a .380 or even 9mm P.
    Yes, I know you can get the Keltec and several similar in .380, too; which makes it a nasty little kicker.



    +1, for the KelTec. Had one years ago. Size and weight wise, don't believe there is anything smaller or lighter.

    I would really suggest, considering there 380 though. I think they call it, the "3 AT",. Or something similar? Just slightly larger and heavier, than the .32 KelTec.

    As KelTec has a locked barrel/slide mechanism, Like the 1911. The KelTec mouse guns, aren't as unpleasant to shoot. As the other straight blowback, vest pocket pistols on the market. Relatively speaking.
  • 62fuelie62fuelie Member Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One vote, here, for the North American Arms. It is all steel, so some recoil dampening, but is smaller than the PPK. Not quite as small as the KelTech nor as light, either.
  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nononsense, another vote for the Mauser hsc in .380 here.
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    If going small, placement is critical; some tiny's have no sights.
    .32 is scary small, even with 6-7 rounds of super premium drt ammo.
    Ear, eye or mouth; but if you're that close, why not just stab 'em?
  • TfloggerTflogger Member Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 62fuelie
    One vote, here, for the North American Arms. It is all steel, so some recoil dampening, but is smaller than the PPK. Not quite as small as the KelTech nor as light, either.
    +1
    That's my left hand gun while riding. Always goes bang,85gr cast with a load of Unique.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CZ-50 loaded with Magtech Guardian Gold.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've carried my 1st generation Kel-Tec P-3AT .380 auto daily for the past 14 years and it's a great little gun that weighs less than 7.5 ounces empty. It's never had a failure of any kind.

    The Kel-Tec P-32 is basically the same gun that's just a little lighter at 6.6 ounces.

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  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another vote for the North American Arms
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    .32NAA gets my vote but equip it with Crimson trace grips as the sights are tiny.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My two .32's are a CZ-27 and a Mauser model 1914. Although the Mauser is smaller and easier to conceal, I prefer the CZ. It is a Quality piece.

    Both have been CCW before.

    I'd recommend either one.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have the Kel-Tec and it sure is small & light. I might add that my Kel-Tec singe stack 9mm isn't much larger.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Get the heaviest one you can so when you throw it at the criminal it has a chance of doing some modicum of damage.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • varianvarian Member Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    probable doesn't meet your requirements but my daughter loves her CZ 27. she is comfortable with it and shoots it very well.
  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got Keltec P32, with some hot loads. Let me know if you want some of these loads, I will give you a box. 60s production, made for Skorpion, more hitting power than regular 9mm [}:)] I just hope the Keltec can take it [:0]
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kel-Tec P32 is very light but mine had an issue and besides that the ergonomics didn't work for me. If you pressed the trigger correctly the joints in your trigger finger almost ran out of travel before the trigger broke, whereas if you curled your finger around the trigger and pulled it with the middle segment, the tip of the finger hit the frame before the trigger broke. You don't want to have to precisely position your finger if you have to use the thing hastily.
  • pingjockeypingjockey Member Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1st run sp101 3" 327. The Chuck Norris of 32's.[:D]
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I only have owned two .32 caliber handguns. A S&W Hand Ejector in .32 Long and it was tiny but easy to shoot. The other was a Walther PP. The Walther is an outstanding pistol and I'd have no problem carrying it. But it would help if you state the reason for the weight factor...is it going in a pocket or in a belt holster etc? The smaller the gun the easier they conceal...but it's a trade off because they are harder to hit with and recoil can sting(if it's for a woman or novice man I probably wouldn't recommend the little Keltec sized guns). I carry an LCP now and it's a great gun when I need a small gun.
  • KronyKrony Member Posts: 303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll go a different direction...how about a Ruger LCR in 327 Federal Mag? Love mine in 357, 327 would be great for recoil and a 6 shooter...http://ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5452.html
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SoreShoulder
    If you pressed the trigger correctly the joints in your trigger finger almost ran out of travel before the trigger broke...


    That's the reason you haven't read about somebody shooting themselves in the foot with a Kel-Tec. The long trigger pull was put there for a safety reason. This is not a target pistol it's a gun that's carried a lot and shot very little. If target shooting is what you want then get a gun that's designed to be shot a lot.
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Autauga-Arms/Pistol/MKII-32/32-Auto/Variant-1

    I have one. Sure is a small little thing. But twice as heavy at the Kel-Tec.
  • rambo rebelrambo rebel Member Posts: 4,028
    edited November -1
    KELTEC 32 is my choice. I got the 10 round mag which gives my other fingers a place to grab. makes it easy to handle. I've shot 100 rounds through mine w/o a hitch. I like em a lot - bought 3. the long hard trigger pull IS the safety.
  • mnrivrat48mnrivrat48 Member Posts: 1,707 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No one I doubt has experience with over 1 or 2 guns of this nature. The Kel-Tek P32 has as good a rep as anything else for meeting your criteria.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I was going to carry a 32 it would be a Beretta Tomcat.

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    Here is a nice review of one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkbnV_OyY0
    RLTW

  • yonsonyonson Member Posts: 950 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have several 32acp's - Walther PP, Colt 1903, Sauer 38H, H & R Self-Loading, Beretta Tomcat. For frequent carry I would pick the Beretta: compact & the tip-barrel is very handy.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    If I was going to carry a 32 it would be a Beretta Tomcat.

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    Here is a nice review of one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkbnV_OyY0

    I do like my Tomcat. Has never failed on me and I hardly notice it when I carry it.
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    if i were going to carry a 32 it wouldnt be a 32

    tooooooooooooooooo many 380s and 9s the same size or close
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a M87 in 22LR but a Beretta M81 is 32 would be a real slick gun IMO. These guns are very well made and really slick shooters.

    They are double stack 12+1 shooters but they are not fat in the hand like most. 13 rds of 32 would give a bit more confidence in carrying that round for SD.

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    RLTW

  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I have a M87 in 22LR but a Beretta M81 is 32 would be a real slick gun IMO. These guns are very well made and really slick shooters.

    They are double stack 12+1 shooters but they are not fat in the hand like most. 13 rds of 32 would give a bit more confidence in carrying that round for SD.

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    I'm liking that Berreta M81 Sam.

    Love my CZ-27.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was looking on the auction side for them. A few years ago there were a bunch for sale cheap on here. They were surplus and were worn looking but they were selling for under $300. I don't see them now I guess the supply dried up like the BHP surplus guns.

    My M87 Cheetah is a blast to shoot. Mine is an Italian made gun and it is one of the slickest 22 pistols I have. Mossad used them for killing PLO terrorists in the 70's.
    RLTW

  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I was looking on the auction side for them. A few years ago there were a bunch for sale cheap on here. They were surplus and were worn looking but they were selling for under $300. I don't see them now I guess the supply dried up like the BHP surplus guns.

    My M87 Cheetah is a blast to shoot. Mine is an Italian made gun and it is one of the slickest 22 pistols I have. Mossad used them for killing PLO terrorists in the 70's.



    I'm a Browning Buck Mark fan in the .22.

    I've got several.

    From the Buckmark Micro, to a long barreled enhanced competition model with a Tru-glo sight.

    Hard to beat, in a .22.



    Took my CCW certification class with the Buckmark Micro.

    Out of 50 rounds shot, all but seven were in the red. (Bullseye.)

    Only because we had to fire 10 rounds rapid fire. (And) Those were right on the edge.

    State Trooper asked, "Have you ever thought about shooting competition?"
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    and all this from the crowd thats claims the 9mm is weak
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    we used to have some Seecamp fans didn't we?
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Those Seecamps sure were pricey. I remember how you couldn't even find one.
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    If I was going to carry a 32 it would be a Beretta Tomcat.The Beretta Tomcat is kind of a beefy little pistol.

    There are other 32s with a blowback action that are much smaller.

    Can it be that they use a slightly oversize bore or chamber in order to bleed off some pressure in order to not put so much power into the too-small slide?

    Do they chronograph the same as other 32s with about the same barrel length?

    If you get a really small 32 but it shoots no harder than a 22 then you've really got a 22.
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    Long ago, I decided I "needed" a North American Arms, chambered in .32NAA... Finally landed one.

    Heavy. Loong, nasty trigger pull.

    Probably would have been Happier waiting for the .327 Mag to appear.

    Still, the NAA is kinda scarce. Kinda like owning a Borgward.
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