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BSA.....

pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
...has lost my support, and sponsorship ....They are now letting "Happy's" run the asylum....Scout Masters no longer are required to be straight...http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/13/boy-scouts-executive-committee-oks-ending-ban-on-happy-leaders/21208789/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_lnk3&pLid=944487927

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  • booter_onebooter_one Member Posts: 2,345
    edited November -1
    Double edged sword there. Either comply or go away. I just hope the happy's do not degrade the work of the BSA. The BSA has done a lot and unfortunate they were basically forced into it. It was either comply or go broke fighting in court or closing the doors. Not much choice.[:(]
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    they ignored the ban about 15 years ago

    I took my son to camp, and one of the leaders did song "my little tea pot" he was so flaming he could have burst into flames, his version was something Marylyn Monroe could have done, very sickening



    it took everything I had not to snatch up my son and leave, I took my son aside and explained not to be alone with him, and apparently all the boys knew something was up with him and was the joke of the camp
  • Dr.NippsDr.Nipps Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just wanna know what the hell you have to do about YPT if everyone is a happy in your troop? One boy per tent????
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is still a great organization.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    ...has lost my support, and sponsorship ....They are now letting "Happy's" run the asylum....Scout Masters no longer are required to be straight...http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/13/boy-scouts-executive-committee-oks-ending-ban-on-happy-leaders/21208789/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_lnk3&pLid=944487927


    Paul, While I agree with you that Happies should not have a position of leadership in the BSA, Please don't give up a sponsorship or support of the kids. They are what count, not the leaders. The kids need the sponsorship that you provide to keep going. I donated some rifles that we had leftover from the gun store and always donate to them and the girl scouts when they silicate us for donations.

    The biggest problem I have with the girl scouts is those damn cookies. I gain about 10 pounds a year because of them[;)][;)]

    Keep up the Support Paul, and remember it is all about the kids and the scouts, not the leaders. JMHO and you don't have to agree and i understand. Oakie
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of you guys seem to assume that being happy makes the guy also a pederast. They are two distinct mental states. In fact, most child molesters are hetero.
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fortunately the local troops are still maintained by the local charter organization. If it happens to be a church...which many are, than they can maintain reverence.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't support them anymore either. I was an Eagle Scout and I wanted to get my Nephew into the BSA, but after visiting some troops around here and all this happy crap going I told him to not bother. He can come to Camp Sam and I will teach him how to hike, camp cook out and stuff.

    I would not want my kids around it now no matter what. The reason is they will run into happy crap when the go to Summer camp and the big jamborees.

    Baden Powell is rolling in his grave.
    RLTW

  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    Some of you guys seem to assume that being happy makes the guy also a pederast. They are two distinct mental states. In fact, most child molesters are hetero.

    I really wish people would understand statistics and demographic distributions before posting nonsense like that.

    If heteros are 98 out of every 100 people, and Happys are the other 2 out of every 100, which group would you expect to have more of Fill-In-The-Blank overall?

    The statistic to watch is the conformity to the distribution. If Happys are ~2% of the overall population, one would expect them to be ~2% of the child molesters. If they are at some level higher than that, there is a problem.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....its not about child molestation....its about teaching boys to be men....Three of my best friends and business associates have happy boys...I love all three as if they were my kids....but they do not need to be teaching my boy anything about being a boy scout...They want to teach English are anything to do with domestic obligation, I have no feud..."BOY" Scouts of America ,not Happy Scouts of America. Okie,if we cow tow to this lib insanity, its our own fault what we create.. Lets all stand up for what we believe. The BSA cannot survive without funding...If the Happys can move in...then we can move out and make it a private club..
  • tneff1969tneff1969 Member Posts: 6,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am really torn on this, being one of the leaders of my sons troop I am mixed. Currently, considering pulling my son out and giving up my position. On the other hand, I will be turning my back on several young men. It puts alot of people in a bad situation, and possibly some of the kids.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by tneff1969
    I am really torn on this, being one of the leaders of my sons troop I am mixed. Currently, considering pulling my son out and giving up my position. On the other hand, I will be turning my back on several young men. It puts alot of people in a bad situation, and possibly some of the kids.



    Good people like you could start core groups and use freedom of religion to exclude happys.

    It would be nice if it caught on.

    Next thing the boy scouts will be like the pope shuffling pedos around to keep it quiet.[:(!]

    Get a rope.
    Dennis,that is a great idea!....Scout Masters need to set up their own troops...not aligned with national troop....Like a "Confederacy"....
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They'll have a badge for happy technique before long.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If all of the "straights" pull out of BSA, guess who is left. Instead, get more straights to join as scouts and ESPECIALLY as scout leaders. Outnumber them. Don't pull and run. [:)]
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by tneff1969
    I am really torn on this, being one of the leaders of my sons troop I am mixed. Currently, considering pulling my son out and giving up my position. On the other hand, I will be turning my back on several young men. It puts alot of people in a bad situation, and possibly some of the kids.



    Good people like you could start core groups and use freedom of religion to exclude happys.

    It would be nice if it caught on.

    Next thing the boy scouts will be like the pope shuffling pedos around to keep it quiet.[:(!]

    Get a rope.
    Dennis,that is a great idea!....Scout Masters need to set up their own troops...not aligned with national troop....Like a "Confederacy"....

    Guess nobody read my post.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They'll probably come out with a whole new bunch of merit badges?[xx(]
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    I thought this was going to be about motorcycles- Triumph's main competitor.
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ..At the Chicago Pride Parade, Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts were at the head of the parade, waving and giving high fives to spectators. I think that was wrong. (One million attended he festivities.)

    ..That said....I don't think being happy makes you a pedophile. They probably have as much in the way of outdoor skills to teach as anyone else....as long as sexuality is not displayed, discussed or taught, period.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess riding a BSA has a totally different meaning these days?
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just part of degeneration of our nation...
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you don't think happys are pedos google the term "chicken hawk".
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ever since the term "cheerful" went sideways I figure "moral" wasn't too far behind. What was the SNL bit with Adam Sandler and one of the Baldwin boys as the scout leader. That's what I imagine the "Camp out" is like these days. Pederass's wet dream.

    I reckon it's more like Brainwashing Sumit Analexplorers.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by thunderbolt
    If you don't think happys are pedos google the term "chicken hawk".
    No one has claimed that happys can NOT be pedophiles. What has been pointed out is that being happy and being a pedophile are to distinctly different things. One does not lead to the other.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I, a hetero man who loves women, am not on a path to seducing little girls. No more so than a man who loves another man being enroute to seducing little boys. Or a lesbian who loves another woman being inclined to seduce little girls. Man/man, woman/woman, man/woman, and adult/child are distinct sexual attractions. Some people exist in more than one of those categories simultaneously. But, being in one does not cause activity in another.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    I, a hetero man who loves women, am not on a path to seducing little girls. No more so than a man who loves another man being enroute to seducing little boys. Or a lesbian who loves another woman being inclined to seduce little girls. Man/man, woman/woman, man/woman, and adult/child are distinct sexual attractions. Some people exist in more than one of those categories simultaneously. But, being in one does not cause activity in another.

    Your first statement is normal and natural as well as describing the majority of men.
    Everything after that speaks of sick, perverted deviates who should not be considered "normal" as is the trend, but as mentally retarded and sociopathic. Anything they do in their deviate desires can be expected. And the more that is accepted by society, the bolder and more deviate they will become. It is a sad and dangerous path normal people are being forced to walk.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i believe it is just another tool in the destruction of the USA and it's founding, principles, and heritage
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing about Sodomy reflects BSA!
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