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This is how these rediculous conspiracy boogey man
Big Sky Redneck
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This is how these boogey man stories get started.
Make sure you read all of this!!
First I am going to post the news story that was emailed to me, this is what our resident conspiracy guys will do but they will not do what I'm going to do after the quote [:D]
quote:http://iamnotanonymousblog.com/?p=216
July 20, 2013 Posted by Michael Martin under Music Vs. Dept. Homeland Security
297 Comments
Fact:
The Department of Homeland Security (An agency enacted through the Patriot Act) is now demanding through enforcement from The State Fire Marshalls that ALL LIVE MUSIC PLAYED IN THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
This is an outrage to freedom and the ideals of The American people and our quickly evaporating rights.
This is just the start to the reality of what The Department of Homeland Security is going to do to the American citizens. The DHS is actually saying it is illegal to play music or operate a business where music is played for any reason without paying The Department of Homeland Security, and giving them much personal and private information. If The DHS can regulate the performance of a song where do you think they will stop? The fact is they won't!
The Department of Homeland Security does not have the jurisdiction to enforce laws in The United States. They have purposefully and misleadingly attached themselves to The Fire Marshall to circumvent American constitutional rights and automatically give themselves jurisdiction in every business in The United States. This is enforced through the Fire Marshall's inspection of commercial public businesses.
Please stand with me, American Citizens everywhere, and business owners in demanding that we will not allow The Department of Homeland Security in our businesses and homes. We need all US Citizens and our elected officials to stand united against the unlawful abuses of The Department of Homeland Security and this increasingly fascist government. The Patriot Act is the only reason The Department of Homeland Security has any jurisdiction. This is intentional. This is the first bold and aggressive move by them. Please stand with us! Our children and grandchildren need us!
I and my business Folly Moon (a restaurant in downtown Muncie, IN) have a hearing with The Department of Homeland Security at The Indiana State House on Friday Aug. 2nd at 10a.m.
Ok, our resident conspiracy wierdos would have posted this story and left it go, then called us crazy for not believing it.
Before posting this I thought to myself, this sounds like one of FrancF's The Sky Is Falling stories, so I checked it out.
Here is some of what I found, and I didn't only go to snopes, I checked several sources and they all say the same thing, maybe worded different but same meaning.
quote:This seems to be spreading from the following incident:
Folly Moon challenges Department of Homeland Security entertainment law
In short:
(1) It's specifically the Indiana DHS - not, apparently, the federal department.
(2) The permit is from the "fire and building safety division" of IDHS.
(3) The dispute is that the law requires a permit for "night clubs, dance halls or cabarets," but the person disputing it believes it does not apply to bars or restaurants that have occasional live music.
So, sounds like a minor dispute about the fire code being blown into an "OMG THEY WANT TO CONTROL LIVE MUSIC!!!?!?!?!!" issue.
quote:Re: The Department of Homeland Security says it is illegal to freely play music in The United States.
Relax people. All states require a permit via the fire marshal to have live entertainment. This is to make sure that the place has a maximum legal occupancy, appropriate fire exists and doesn't have flammables next to the stage lights. Think of all those nightclub fires that have killed scores of people: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
The guy claiming this government intrusion is someone doesn't want to pay for his permit. Now if you want to argue about permit fees, go ahead, but this guy is yelling fire in a crowded nightclub, so to speak.
I'm not going to post all the disputes but as you can see, this story can cause quite a stir and I'm ultra skeptical of "news stories" from websites that are not legitimate news. However the conspiracy wierdos take stories like these and freak out and post the stories all over the place saying OH MY GOD IT'S THE BOOGEY MAN!!!
No reason for this post other than to be a butthead [:D]
Make sure you read all of this!!
First I am going to post the news story that was emailed to me, this is what our resident conspiracy guys will do but they will not do what I'm going to do after the quote [:D]
quote:http://iamnotanonymousblog.com/?p=216
July 20, 2013 Posted by Michael Martin under Music Vs. Dept. Homeland Security
297 Comments
Fact:
The Department of Homeland Security (An agency enacted through the Patriot Act) is now demanding through enforcement from The State Fire Marshalls that ALL LIVE MUSIC PLAYED IN THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
This is an outrage to freedom and the ideals of The American people and our quickly evaporating rights.
This is just the start to the reality of what The Department of Homeland Security is going to do to the American citizens. The DHS is actually saying it is illegal to play music or operate a business where music is played for any reason without paying The Department of Homeland Security, and giving them much personal and private information. If The DHS can regulate the performance of a song where do you think they will stop? The fact is they won't!
The Department of Homeland Security does not have the jurisdiction to enforce laws in The United States. They have purposefully and misleadingly attached themselves to The Fire Marshall to circumvent American constitutional rights and automatically give themselves jurisdiction in every business in The United States. This is enforced through the Fire Marshall's inspection of commercial public businesses.
Please stand with me, American Citizens everywhere, and business owners in demanding that we will not allow The Department of Homeland Security in our businesses and homes. We need all US Citizens and our elected officials to stand united against the unlawful abuses of The Department of Homeland Security and this increasingly fascist government. The Patriot Act is the only reason The Department of Homeland Security has any jurisdiction. This is intentional. This is the first bold and aggressive move by them. Please stand with us! Our children and grandchildren need us!
I and my business Folly Moon (a restaurant in downtown Muncie, IN) have a hearing with The Department of Homeland Security at The Indiana State House on Friday Aug. 2nd at 10a.m.
Ok, our resident conspiracy wierdos would have posted this story and left it go, then called us crazy for not believing it.
Before posting this I thought to myself, this sounds like one of FrancF's The Sky Is Falling stories, so I checked it out.
Here is some of what I found, and I didn't only go to snopes, I checked several sources and they all say the same thing, maybe worded different but same meaning.
quote:This seems to be spreading from the following incident:
Folly Moon challenges Department of Homeland Security entertainment law
In short:
(1) It's specifically the Indiana DHS - not, apparently, the federal department.
(2) The permit is from the "fire and building safety division" of IDHS.
(3) The dispute is that the law requires a permit for "night clubs, dance halls or cabarets," but the person disputing it believes it does not apply to bars or restaurants that have occasional live music.
So, sounds like a minor dispute about the fire code being blown into an "OMG THEY WANT TO CONTROL LIVE MUSIC!!!?!?!?!!" issue.
quote:Re: The Department of Homeland Security says it is illegal to freely play music in The United States.
Relax people. All states require a permit via the fire marshal to have live entertainment. This is to make sure that the place has a maximum legal occupancy, appropriate fire exists and doesn't have flammables next to the stage lights. Think of all those nightclub fires that have killed scores of people: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
The guy claiming this government intrusion is someone doesn't want to pay for his permit. Now if you want to argue about permit fees, go ahead, but this guy is yelling fire in a crowded nightclub, so to speak.
I'm not going to post all the disputes but as you can see, this story can cause quite a stir and I'm ultra skeptical of "news stories" from websites that are not legitimate news. However the conspiracy wierdos take stories like these and freak out and post the stories all over the place saying OH MY GOD IT'S THE BOOGEY MAN!!!
No reason for this post other than to be a butthead [:D]
Comments
And Thursdays will be officially creamed beef on toast days at all FEMA camps.
And what might those be in YOUR view?[;)][:D] I Don't swallow media junk From the left or right.
How about-
We are we losing our Country stories by FrancF.
UN agenda 21 Let us go there- [:D]
The disparity is vast and un disputable. In time even Rock bands will be highly regulated in America if the Police state keeps being built.
I love the last one, a drone strike on a friend of a whistle blower, that was a hoot!!!!
Don't use Fast & Furious to cover up the totally hilarious conspiracy's that have been posted here over the years! [:D][:D]
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606444
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/07/23/why-was-michael-hastings-murdered/
quote: I do see an imploded pit in the back of the car. A bomb would produce an outward explosion, but that is not what I see. I think he was killed by a drone.
Please don't tell me you believe that crap!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And let's not forget all the postings here that the moon landings are faked, Sept 11 what we saw on the news happening live was really a Hollywood movie played as real as to cover up G Bush bombing buildings here in America so he can start a war for his buddy Dick Cheney and Halliburton. Again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Building 7 baby![:0]
In case you have sig lines off.
"The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."
- Wayne Dyer
And let's not forget all the postings here that the moon landings are faked, Sept 11 what we saw on the news happening live was really a Hollywood movie played as real as to cover up G Bush bombing buildings here in America so he can start a war for his buddy Dick Cheney and Halliburton. Again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Well since he got away with that GW blew the levees in New Orleans!!
Sadly misinformation is more important when there is a problem
it to their advantage to be one fact off and yell fire
soon no one will yell
This is why Government disinfo agents create some of the false and easy to disprove conspiracy theories. We see how well it works on the folks here.
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Sadly misinformation is more important when there is a problem
it to their advantage to be one fact off and yell fire
soon no one will yell
This is why Government disinfo agents create some of the false and easy to disprove conspiracy theories. We see how well it works on the folks here.
Neal