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Internet Humiliation
NOSLEEP
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We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
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We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
I'm pretty sure your assessment is spot on...and it is sad.
All I know is that I'm not going to to continue to kid Freemind so much in the future.
I'd feel horrible, if he.....well, you know.......[:(]
No you wouldn't.
I thought that was what we did here everyday.[:D]
Being 'homophobic' means you fear homosexuals. Why do youn fear them? And if not, why do you characterize yourself as 'homophobic'?
"Homophobic" is the new politically correct term for anyone that disagrees with a gay life style. I don't want to be accused of being out of touch...
Internet humiliation?
I thought that was what we did here everyday.[:D]
Ya... We would all have to get in line for that... lol [:D]
quote:Originally posted by NOSLEEP
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
I'm pretty sure your assessment is spot on...and it is sad.
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
its not about him being gay, it was about being humiliated by becoming an involuntary porn star
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by NOSLEEP
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
I'm pretty sure your assessment is spot on...and it is sad.
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
its not about him being gay, it was about being humiliated by becoming an involuntary porn star
Well I would no doubt have issues with it being posted on line... I mean if every one saw the big lad I'd be upset to put it mildly. But commit suicide. Not over a natural act. Not in this short lifetime thanks.
quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by NOSLEEP
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
I'm pretty sure your assessment is spot on...and it is sad.
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
its not about him being gay, it was about being humiliated by becoming an involuntary porn star
Well I would no doubt have issues with it being posted on line... I mean if every one saw the big lad I'd be upset to put it mildly. But commit suicide. Not over a natural act. Not in this short lifetime thanks.
true enough, I myself would hunt down the POS that played their "prank" and make them very sorry. but people react differently
Most laptops these days have webcams built in. If the computer is on and the video chat module is loaded, then the camera is on. If you know what you are doing you actually can google search for people that have left their cameras on and running and see what their webcam is transmitting. The press is making it out like the perp intentionally hid a spy cam and went through all the trouble to record and stream video from it. The kid tweeted and told people that knew his video chat address to look at the stream. Bad?? Certainly, but realistically, one should consider that any webcam is ALWAYS on and transmitting. Not sure?? Throw something on top of it. Like others have said, I feel bad for the dead kids parents.
Capt'n... You wouldn't mind sharing that recipe now would you! [:D]
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
i don't think he was ashamed from being "found out" as gay, so much as ashamed of what his parents, family, and friends would come to think. lets say you were his father. the boy knows you dislike homosexuality to a greater extent than "meh, not my gig". heck, ecc's kid said she'd shoot a line-up of queers if given the chance. imagine a son having a homophobe father. a sister that makes remarks like that. a mother who wanted her little boy to grow up and marry and make her some grandkids with a pretty little wife. hanging out with his friends and pretending to laugh along at their gay jokes. etc etc etc. i really don't think he was ashamed of his sexuality, but by the embarrassment, disappointment, and resentment he felt his family would have for him.
of course in the news reports, his family will say they would have loved him regardless, but i'll bet you they never said that before he killed himself. i do feel sympathy for them, though. don't get me wrong. it was probably a topic that never entered their minds. nothing to blame them for, so please, don't get me wrong on that point.
think about it like this: lets say all your family and friends were diehard fans of... the broncos, meanwhile, you were a secret fan of the packers (hah!). if you were found out, you'd be mocked and jeered at. and thats just over football. think about what the difference would be if it was something more important. for fred's sake, we've seen the news reports about muslim dad's killing their daughters for dressing "wrong" or for not dating the right guy. some of the US born-and-bred christians have little compunction against randomly beating up/killing gays, because their book told them it was okay.
jeez, i went to highschool with a guy that got into a knockdown, drag-out fistfight with his own brother, because the brother came out of the closet. this freshman guy has probably been living in fear of similar events for years.
as an aside, i also had a teacher that kept saying things like "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem". she was on some weird personal crusade to keep all her students from committing suicide. i couldn't quite understand her obsession until we all came back from christmas break and she had offed herself. nutcase, that one.
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
Depends - is she ugly? [xx(]
Being 'homophobic' means you fear homosexuals. Why do youn fear them? And if not, why do you characterize yourself as 'homophobic'?
Media conditioning.
i don't think he was ashamed from being "found out" as gay, so much as ashamed of what his parents, family, and friends would come to think. lets say you were his father. the boy knows you dislike homosexuality to a greater extent than "meh, not my gig". heck, ecc's kid said she'd shoot a line-up of queers if given the chance. imagine a son having a homophobe father. a sister that makes remarks like that. a mother who wanted her little boy to grow up and marry and make her some grandkids with a pretty little wife. hanging out with his ......
See? Here it is again. Conditioning works.
some of the US born-and-bred christians have little compunction against randomly beating up/killing gays, because their book told them it was okay.
Here's some more "conditioning". Man, this guy is a regular chalkboard.
quote:Originally posted by NiccoHel
imagine a son having a homophobe
See? Here it is again. Conditioning works.
ummm, no, he said himself that he is homophobic. it was in his opening post. so if he had a gay son, he would have a homophobe for a father... get it?
conditioning? where did you get that from?
what reasons do you have for being "considerably homophobic"? is it because your god said it was bad? or was it your parents? well, gee whiz, charlie brown, you've been conditioned too! [:0]
quote:Originally posted by NiccoHel
some of the US born-and-bred christians have little compunction against randomly beating up/killing gays, because their book told them it was okay.
Here's some more "conditioning". Man, this guy is a regular chalkboard.
what? you dispute this? look-up "gaybashing". look up "westboro baptist church". i'm a "chalkboard" because...? what the heck does that even mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
just because you are in this special ed class doesn't mean you get to slack off.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by NiccoHel
imagine a son having a homophobe
See? Here it is again. Conditioning works.
ummm, no, he said himself that he is homophobic. it was in his opening post. so if he had a gay son, he would have a homophobe for a father... get it?
conditioning? where did you get that from?
what reasons do you have for being "considerably homophobic"? is it because your god said it was bad? or was it your parents? well, gee whiz, charlie brown, you've been conditioned too! [:0]
My post was a little tongue and check when I posted "considerably homophobic". a few posts down I defined my meaning : "Homophobic is the new politically correct term for anyone that disagrees with a gay life style". And I am guilty of disagreeing with the lifestyle. I have three sons and they would likely attest to it not being put on a pedestal and promoted here under my roof. I don't elude to religion or God in my belief of the negative aspects of homosexuality. Its just plain a wrong and may be natures way of cleaning out the gene pool. In nature animals revert to same sex activities when they are rejected by the opposite sex. Rocky Mountain Big Horn Sheep are a good example of what I am referring too.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by NiccoHel
imagine a son having a homophobe
See? Here it is again. Conditioning works.
ummm, no, he said himself that he is homophobic. it was in his opening post. so if he had a gay son, he would have a homophobe for a father... get it?
conditioning? where did you get that from?
what reasons do you have for being "considerably homophobic"? is it because your god said it was bad? or was it your parents? well, gee whiz, charlie brown, you've been conditioned too! [:0]
I rest my case. Wow! Thank you VERY much. Sheesh. Amazing!
"Homophobic is the new politically correct term for anyone that disagrees with a gay life style".
You are precisely correct. Gives a negative connotation, therefore people should become "conditioned", not to be that way. Simple yet effective conditioning. Proven in this very thread a few times in just a handful of posts.
if i were a fag id be a dead fag cause i would do it myself.
fags queers homos lez-bos all of them need to move to san fran.
this town city state just aint big enough for there gay pride.
infact i want my rainbow back, an the word gay ill take it back too
for those that feel happy an gleeful.
i dont think there should be any fag teachers in our schools
spewin there ilkkkk.
There was some tv show awhile back, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. I know some of you watched it.[:p]
As far as the kid offing himself, he worried too damn much about what other people thought of him. THATS conditioning!
All the Baptist perusing the DVD porn duck whenever another customer comes in. They are afraid of being seen lusting I guess. I tell them those people don't pay their bills so who cares what they think. [8D]
Small town prigs carrying tales. [}:)]
quote:Originally posted by NiccoHel
As an over the road trucker my first real experience with them was in 1974 when I started driving one of my father's tractor trailers. Interstate 95 in Connecticut was a toll road back then,and the service areas were Howard Johnsons. They are still there ,but are now mickey-d's.
You didn't dare to stop ,and use the rest room. They were all over the place,and had holes chopped in the walls to do their deal. You plug the hole with toilet paper,and they pull it out,and there is an eyeball stareing at you. Its wasn't just there its is rest areas in general.
Pull into a rest area at 2am to get some sleep ,and the brake lights start flashing like its Christmas.Yeah its the homos trolling for a date. Its the same thing in a lot of truck stops with the holes chopped in the toilet stall walls. Alternate life style no deviant perverts!
In my opinion I truly believe that they have been possessed by a demon spirit,and can't help themselves. More & more as society becomes more perverted it is obvious where we are headed,and that is fine with me,because I know the end of the story. My heart is prepared,and I have no fear,because I know that evil men must have their way for a season. I know the way out. How about you?
Don't think its true the traveling public must be oblivious as to what go's on in the rest areas of the country. I tell you what I go out of my way to use the restroom somewhere else. Oh yeah 30 years ago it was the ladies of the evening banging on doors for a date,and on the CB looking for action,and now its the homos.
They claim they are born that way ,and can't help it. I'm not so sure. My high school class president died two days ago in Washington,DC. He was gay,but has an identical twin brother that is not. How did that work. His first life partner died ten years ago,and now he is gone.
If I was the current life partner I would be real nervous. Maybe justice is served in due time! He sure hid that he was gay back in High School. As a matter of fact the girls used to flock around him. Maybe they knew.
So you are saying you agree with nosleeps assessment of the term "homophobic"?
Also, the research is part of the conditioning/indoctrination. A point of view can and always will be supported by it, regardles of which side you are on.
Internet humiliation?
I thought that was what we did here everyday.[:D]
Me too...[:I]
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by NOSLEEP
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
I'm pretty sure your assessment is spot on...and it is sad.
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
its not about him being gay, it was about being humiliated by becoming an involuntary porn star
No...I wouldn't have any problems with it....I've performed in front of audiences many times...and in public.
Nic, maybe I misunderstood your post. Th einternet, with lack of inflection, * and hand gestures, etc, well it happens often.
So you are saying you agree with nosleeps assessment of the term "homophobic"?
Also, the research is part of the conditioning/indoctrination. A point of view can and always will be supported by it, regardles of which side you are on.
no sweat, this is the internet... it doesn't matter, eh?
as to nosleeps assessment of "homophobic"; yes and no. i agree with what he is saying, in that the word is used to describe general distaste for gays, and is also used to broadly label anyone that doesn't "support" gays. much like any white guy that makes a comment about african-americans that is not positive is immediately labeled racist. however, i was refering to the degree of homophobia. like that schoolmate i mentioned. he was so upset over his brother's sexuality, that he got violent. that would be a high degree of homophobia, so to speak. to me, the definition is not important, rather the level of tolerance/intolerance/whatever of the freshman's family members. did that make sense? the difference between not giving a rat's a55 vs open aggression. i have no clue as to the freshman's family life, so i was offering a supposition.
i see what you are saying about research results that are... used... to support a theory, regardless of the accuracy. much like statistics are often misused for political whimsy. there is a dividing line when it comes to that though. usually it is in the footnotes.
poor analogy: you could say there are a lot of yellow fish in the ocean, then you count a bunch of fish, and even though there are more blue fish, you still can say, "aha, there are millions of yellow fish! i told you so!" if you are a proper researcher though, you would include the research notes that say how many fish you counted in total, the colors, the locations, etc...
that research-and-results issue has caused a lot of problems for all sorts of subjects. lol, look at the global warming/climate change fiasco. everybody is right. there is a difference in reported results that a lot of people miss though. while the theory and speculation of homosexuality is mired in controversy, there are factual elements that remain: for one, there are homosexuals. that includes animals as well. by that rational, we could argue that the exsistence of gay octopi/sheep/dogs means there is no required moral/ethical cause for homosexuality. therefore it is a natural phenomenon. of course, there are definite exceptions to this, as there are people that have been coerced by outside influences to act in a homosexual manner. at this point, though, the lines begin to blur. where does "natural" end and "nurtured" begin?
when it comes to the etymology of homophobia, it literally means homo + phobia = homosexual + fear. gay-fear.
"unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality." according to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia
notice that doesn't say anything about how a person acts, other than the basic fear and/or aversion/repulsion. for this reason, i never felt the need to take into consideration anyone's definition of the word. the first time i saw two guys kissing (gee, thanks San Fran Fleet Week), i grimaced a bit. i didn't start vomiting, speaking gibberish and sobbing for a simpler time. i looked away, rolled my eyes, and thought glad thats not me. i forget who said it where, but someone in this forum made a comment about having slapped queers around for fun with his buddies, or something to that effect. i might be a bit homophobic by being repulsed by the sight of two dudes open-mouthing in public, but people that gladly physically harm others for having different bedroom preferences are a whole different ballgame. that gets pretty damn close to other things. like catholics vs protestants, shiites vs sunni, nazis vs jews, clansmen vs panthers, cowboys vs indains, snakes vs a *-f'in-plane, etc.
different strokes for different folks.
of course, we could always look to dano for these answers. i hear he has some strong, uh, contacts in the gay and lesbian community. [:D]
so are you guys saying that if someone secretly filmed you having normal sex with a woman and posted it online you would have no issues with that???
its not about him being gay, it was about being humiliated by becoming an involuntary porn star
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I'd have no problem with it as long as they streamed my email address across the bottom. Being single I'd consider it free advertisement. [8D]
We have all likely heard or read about the young 18 year old freshman who committed suicide the other day after having been videoed having sex with another young man. I feel a lot of sympathy for his family. Although I am considerably homophobic and detest the behavior. I have to wonder once someone has chosen that path and been "found out" in this day of age, where what ever floats your boat is to be applauded. Why be so ashamed of your own actions as to commit suicide. He must of known in his heart that what he was doing was not natural. Causing him to be ashamed to the point of desperation. Sad...
Doubt he felt bad about what he was doing. What probably drove him to kill himself is all you bigots who "detest" his behavior. Pathetic that people can't live the way they want to in this day and age. Many of you would fit right in with the Taliban.
Study takes new look at puzzling role of brothers' birth order
Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer
A boy's chances of growing up gay increase with the number of older brothers he has, and the Canadian researcher who spotted the trend a decade ago now believes he is closer to explaining why: It all starts in the womb.
Brock University psychologist Anthony Bogaert first reported in 1996 the startling finding that a boy's probability of growing up gay increases by about one-third with each older brother in his family. It's a subtle phenomenon -- nearly all boys even in large families still grow up straight -- but subsequent research has affirmed that the "fraternal birth order effect" is real.
Since that discovery, researchers have been trying to figure out what might explain it. The most likely answer, they thought, had something to do with how younger brothers are raised -- perhaps having many older brothers drives the youngest to adopt a different sex role.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/06/27/GAY.TMP#ixzz117GcXV4O