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If Martial Law is Declared
JnRockwall
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What law becomes law of the land?
Does the bill of rights and the constitution become null and void?
Does the bill of rights and the constitution become null and void?
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Also, there are about 100 million guys like us nationwide who will put up a little argument against it.
So I know the Leftists are arrogant and powermad enough to think they can do something like ML and get away with it, but I think they'll quickly be proven wrong.
ML will be seen in the eyes of the "Black" lives as the time to take out Whitey,once and for all.
As a whole,I don't think they have even a clue how outclassed and under gunned they actually are.
Electrical grid goes down game over for the feds...
Yep, you got that right.
Washington under siege.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
So if I am on the other side of town and ML is declared, do I go home or go hide? Do I fight my way home killing everything in m
y way?
Or just avoid military and police?
I am not expecting this to happen. Just dont really understand the order of events up and including ML.
Will people be converting ars to full auto and setting boobie traps?
Will some people riot loot and burn or will curfew be in effect?
It could take the form of the suspension of the Constitution by the Feds, with an attempt to dictate actions upon the States and Individual from D.C.
For this to be effective, State Governments would have to go along with it and suspend their own Constitutions.
The U.S. Military cannot occupy the United States of America. It does not have the power to subdue the citizens of the United States of America.
In all likelihood, a state of Martial Law declared from D.C. would be a list, probably a fairly small one, of dictates to State and Local Governments as to actions that must be taken upon themselves and the citizenry. Failure to act would result in a suspension of funding.
Short of nuking state capitols, there is really no effective means of enforcement from D.C.
Brad Steele
Martial Law could take any number of forms.
It could take the form of the suspension of the Constitution by the Feds, with an attempt to dictate actions upon the States and Individual from D.C.
For this to be effective, State Governments would have to go along with it and suspend their own Constitutions.
The U.S. Military cannot occupy the United States of America. It does not have the power to subdue the citizens of the United States of America.
In all likelihood, a state of Martial Law declared from D.C. would be a list, probably a fairly small one, of dictates to State and Local Governments as to actions that must be taken upon themselves and the citizenry. Failure to act would result in a suspension of funding.
Short of nuking state capitols, there is really no effective means of enforcement from D.C.
who is gonna stop them?? should they deceide to take orders and do so
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
Martial Law could take any number of forms.
It could take the form of the suspension of the Constitution by the Feds, with an attempt to dictate actions upon the States and Individual from D.C.
For this to be effective, State Governments would have to go along with it and suspend their own Constitutions.
The U.S. Military cannot occupy the United States of America. It does not have the power to subdue the citizens of the United States of America.
In all likelihood, a state of Martial Law declared from D.C. would be a list, probably a fairly small one, of dictates to State and Local Governments as to actions that must be taken upon themselves and the citizenry. Failure to act would result in a suspension of funding.
Short of nuking state capitols, there is really no effective means of enforcement from D.C.
who is gonna stop them?? should they deceide to take orders and do so
You, me?
quote:Originally posted by riflemike
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
Martial Law could take any number of forms.
It could take the form of the suspension of the Constitution by the Feds, with an attempt to dictate actions upon the States and Individual from D.C.
For this to be effective, State Governments would have to go along with it and suspend their own Constitutions.
The U.S. Military cannot occupy the United States of America. It does not have the power to subdue the citizens of the United States of America.
In all likelihood, a state of Martial Law declared from D.C. would be a list, probably a fairly small one, of dictates to State and Local Governments as to actions that must be taken upon themselves and the citizenry. Failure to act would result in a suspension of funding.
Short of nuking state capitols, there is really no effective means of enforcement from D.C.
who is gonna stop them?? should they deceide to take orders and do so
You, me?
im in,
i will have to borrow a gun, mine got lost in a You Know....
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
Martial Law could take any number of forms.
It could take the form of the suspension of the Constitution by the Feds, with an attempt to dictate actions upon the States and Individual from D.C.
For this to be effective, State Governments would have to go along with it and suspend their own Constitutions.
The U.S. Military cannot occupy the United States of America. It does not have the power to subdue the citizens of the United States of America.
In all likelihood, a state of Martial Law declared from D.C. would be a list, probably a fairly small one, of dictates to State and Local Governments as to actions that must be taken upon themselves and the citizenry. Failure to act would result in a suspension of funding.
Short of nuking state capitols, there is really no effective means of enforcement from D.C.
who is gonna stop them??
Its a numbers game. The Army doesn't have enough people to successfully occupy California if there is any resistance what-so-ever.
The U.S. Military could run around the country and kill people at will; no question. It simply does not have the man power to occupy and control even 5% of the territory of the U.S.
Martial law would only be successful with the willing compliance of State Governments, Local Governments, and 95%+ of the people.
I don't think they will get to the 95%. There are a whole lot of us that are entering our sunset years but still capable of a little and would willingly sacrifice the time we have left for the freedom of our children.
Brad Steele
good enough.
So the odds on bet is a ML call will not start a race war?
The 95% could also reply to the feds threat to suspend state funding by suspending payment of federal income tax.
With the ever increasing "cashless" society, how is that going to happen?
It seems to me, if I write them a check, they take the funds from my account.
If I don't write them a check, what keeps them from taking the funds from my account anyway?
Of course, this does not even consider "Federal Withholding" from the working guy's paycheck. [}:)] In other words, they are taking payment for my income tax - even if I don't send them the money. They take it - before I get it.
When local, state and federal agents engaged in their "boyhunt" after the Beantown marathon bombing, squads of jack booted "public servants" rolled through peaceful neighborhoods in armored vehicles.
At gunpoint, they forced their way into the homes of law abiding citizens shoving high powered rifles into the faces of mothers, fathers and children.
Resistance or civil disobedience would have earned you a bullet and nary a peep was heard from any public official or member of the media as to the constitutional or civil rights being violated.
When at last, they THOUGHT the suspect was cornered, they fired indiscriminately through the boat where he was believed to be hiding, bullets ranging through fences, yards and God knows where else throughout this otherwise peaceful residential area.
When the "shelter in place" order was finally lifted and the citizens were "allowed" to leave their homes, they rushed to their attics or the local hardware store for an American flag and waved them in the streets while proudly chanting "USA" "USA"
LEMMINGS!!
It will look much as it looked in the not so distant past.
When local, state and federal agents engaged in their "boyhunt" after the Beantown marathon bombing, squads of jack booted "public servants" rolled through peaceful neighborhoods in armored vehicles.
At gunpoint, they forced their way into the homes of law abiding citizens shoving high powered rifles into the faces of mothers, fathers and children.
Resistance or civil disobedience would have earned you a bullet and nary a peep was heard from any public official or member of the media as to the constitutional or civil rights being violated.
When at last, they THOUGHT the suspect was cornered, they fired indiscriminately through the boat where he was believed to be hiding, bullets ranging through fences, yards and God knows where else throughout this otherwise peaceful residential area.
When the "shelter in place" order was finally lifted and the citizens were "allowed" to leave their homes, they rushed to their attics or the local hardware store for an American flag and waved them in the streets while proudly chanting "USA" "USA"
LEMMINGS!!
Well, that was also Massachusetts, a state full of people who have curled up and licked their own nuts for a century or so. Somehow I don't see that sort or police behavior getting as much mileage south or the Mason-Dixon or in any non-leftist state. If ML is declared, most of the lemmings in CA, MA, CT, and other liberal utopias would probably go French within 24 hours anyways. We're talking about in Free America where men don't have "gender identity disorders" or "gluten allergies" and a Prius is used solely for transporting tourists [;)]
What law becomes law of the land?
Does the bill of rights and the constitution become null and void?
The word 'martial' is a really big clue'. [:D]
Under martial law the highest ranking military member in an area would be the local law of the land.
To the second part, yes. Habeas corpus may be suspended, civilian courts may be suspended and replaced by military tibunal, elected officials may be removed and replaced with appointees, etc.
Look at our post-civil war era for examples.
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
What law becomes law of the land?
Does the bill of rights and the constitution become null and void?
Possibly the law of the jungle .... only the strong survive.
[?]
Yes, Laws of the Jungle, you better be ready and prepared.
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
The 95% could also reply to the feds threat to suspend state funding by suspending payment of federal income tax.
With the ever increasing "cashless" society, how is that going to happen?
It seems to me, if I write them a check, they take the funds from my account.
If I don't write them a check, what keeps them from taking the funds from my account anyway?
Of course, this does not even consider "Federal Withholding" from the working guy's paycheck. [}:)] In other words, they are taking payment for my income tax - even if I don't send them the money. They take it - before I get it.
Good points, but none of them are yet mandatory.
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
It will look much as it looked in the not so distant past.
When local, state and federal agents engaged in their "boyhunt" after the Beantown marathon bombing, squads of jack booted "public servants" rolled through peaceful neighborhoods in armored vehicles.
At gunpoint, they forced their way into the homes of law abiding citizens shoving high powered rifles into the faces of mothers, fathers and children.
Resistance or civil disobedience would have earned you a bullet and nary a peep was heard from any public official or member of the media as to the constitutional or civil rights being violated.
When at last, they THOUGHT the suspect was cornered, they fired indiscriminately through the boat where he was believed to be hiding, bullets ranging through fences, yards and God knows where else throughout this otherwise peaceful residential area.
When the "shelter in place" order was finally lifted and the citizens were "allowed" to leave their homes, they rushed to their attics or the local hardware store for an American flag and waved them in the streets while proudly chanting "USA" "USA"
LEMMINGS!!
Well, that was also Massachusetts, a state full of people who have curled up and licked their own nuts for a century or so. Somehow I don't see that sort or police behavior getting as much mileage south or the Mason-Dixon or in any non-leftist state. If ML is declared, most of the lemmings in CA, MA, CT, and other liberal utopias would probably go French within 24 hours anyways. We're talking about in Free America where men don't have "gender identity disorders" or "gluten allergies" and a Prius is used solely for transporting tourists [;)]
Things went bad quickly with Hurricane Katrina. Citizens will roll over in all states, not just the ones we make fun of.
When I brought up martial law here a couple of years ago I was practically booed off the forum and ridiculed for being a tinfoil hat wearer. Funny how things change ain't it? We've not seen anything yet!
[;)]Been a member since GB early days and before had another account forgot password started this account back in 2006 and since then only a few hundred post ..watched many folks come and go over the years and not much has changed.