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.270 for elk...and bad guys - so says Wal Mart Emp
utbrowningman
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And she has the key to the gun cabinet?
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With proper bullet placement, I see no problem with her recommendation.
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With proper bullet placement, I see no problem with her recommendation.
With or without proper bullet placement, believe the bad guy will reconsider.
Shot placement is everything.
I wanted to bring up. I guess the employee deserves some credit
since WM does not sell handguns.
My local walmart sporting goods manager told me that Walmart is going to start back into the handgun business. Supposedly they have some new, gun friendly upper echelon regional managers who think handguns in the store are a good thing. We'll see.
She probly thought here is a idiot that will take this POS off the shelf.
Notice she handed him a Model 770!!![:(!][xx(][xx(][V][}:)][}:)]
She probly thought here is a idiot that will take this POS off the shelf.
She may be smarter then other are giving her credit for.
As for the elk, lt all depends on bullet placement
It would have to be a REALLY big house with REALLY long hallways. [:D]
+1 LOL
I've been effectively killing Elk with a .270 for years.
Likewise, I've been routinely dispatching home invaders with a .270 for as long as I can remember.
Now I have more money and a fancier rifles with bigger calibers shooting heavier bullets but the elk don't drop any quicker. In fact, as I get older, I sometimes come up empty handed. Then again, I'm now more interested larger animals with good racks. Back then, I was hunting meat animals.
Bottom line, the .270 is every bit an elk cartridge in open country and cross canyons where shots can be taken slowly and deliberately off an available rest. The round's light recoil, flat trajectory and inherent accuracy is conducive to good shot placement if you do your part.
With proper bullet placement, I see no problem with her recommendation.
AND the proper bullet selection![;)]
As far as the .270 round goes it has been a matter of unwarranted controversy for more than 75 years. To this day I have hunting and shooting buddies as well as gun shop owners who say the .270 is an anemic rifle round that should be limited to varmints at best going on about stories of how it does not have the bullet weight or energy to deliver a killing shot. I find it quite amusing especially after harvesting everything from white tailed deer, elk and black bear with one shot kills.
Having a choice to hunt big game with my .270 or 30-06, I usually pick up which ever rifle that is closet to the door.
The wife used a .270 on three of 'em and they took a couple of steps and fell over.
Shot placement is everything.
Elk or bad guys?
Brad Steele
As far as the .270 round goes it has been a matter of unwarranted controversy for more than 75 years. To this day I have hunting and shooting buddies as well as gun shop owners who say the .270 is an anemic rifle round that should be limited to varmints at best going on about stories of how it does not have the bullet weight or energy to deliver a killing shot.
I respectfully disagree with your friends and gun shop owners! I am pushing 150gr NBTs at 2850 FPS out of a 22" and 1:10 barrel and have harvested deer pass 400 yards without any problem. The legendary writer and hunter Jack O'Connor proved all the skeptics wrong on many occasions.
There are lots of developments in the last 75 years - vast improvements in bullets, powders, and barrels, etc..., esp. in the last 10 years or so. You might want to refer your hunting and shooting buddies as well the shop owners to Matrix Bullets, they are making 165 and 175 grainer VLDs for the .270. I have hunting buddies here in Montana that are dropping them elk beyond 600 yards with 165gr on their .270 WSMs and .270 Wins.
I am currently building a .270 AI with 30" barrel from Lilja with 1:8 twist and will be utilizing primarily the 175gr. If my calculations are right (with help from my gunsmith, Dan Lilja, and Marshal Ambrose of Matrix Bullets) and can push the bullet at a safe pressures, it will be at or close to the same performance level of a factory 7MM Magnum pushing 130/140 grainers. BTW, my go to rifles are .300 WMs and .338 WMs but have other magnum rifles too.
My CCW is a .270 in a custom leg holster. Little slow on the draw the the power it has makes up for that.[;)]
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Good enough advice for me-- 1994 Kenny Jarrett built me a 270 on Rem 700 action. 21" stainless Jarrett barrel,Shilen Trigger.Mt Rfl Stock. l hunted with it 15 yrs. Mostly White tail. One Caribou and elk too. Anchored a 420 lb Black bear in PA after a buddies' 300 Wby failed to do the job. Kasey sold it for me on GB last year.
The 270 came out in 1925. 130gr bullet @ 3100fps. Shoots as fast and flat as a 7mm Rem Mag. HIts as hard as an '06. Kicks a little more than a 243. What more could you want[?] What more could you ask[?]
My friend Mike Davis grew up in Bonners Ferry lD. Upon returning from WWll his Pop bought a Win Mod-70 in 1947- Cal 270. Mr Davis hunted with that M-70 til 1989. ln those 42 years the old man killed 27 elk,2 griz, a black bear along with a herd of mule deer. Moose too. The only load he shot was Rem 150gr Core Loc. At Mike's funeral in 1993 l asked Mr Davis about the old 270. He said he never lost any game with it. Always delivered the meat and did not kick like a magnum.
Good enough advice for me-- 1994 Kenny Jarrett built me a 270 on Rem 700 action. 21" stainless Jarrett barrel,Shilen Trigger.Mt Rfl Stock. l hunted with it 15 yrs. Mostly White tail. One Caribou and elk too. Anchored a 420 lb Black bear in PA after a buddies' 300 Wby failed to do the job. Kasey sold it for me on GB last year.
The 270 came out in 1925. 130gr bullet @ 3100fps. Shoots as fast and flat as a 7mm Rem Mag. HIts as hard as an '06. Kicks a little more than a 243. What more could you want[?] What more could you ask[?]
Amen to that! The .270 is so underrated, if the naysayers want to keep it that way, I'm OK with it!
I would like to think an appropiate response would be, "Get the hell out of my store!" or at the very least; "Gimme some ID." Especially when his buddy's got a camera. My first response would certainly not be to hand him a "goon"!
Was very surprised to see the "EBR's" in the case on a recent visit.
The clerk said they were surprised as well when the rifles arrived. They thought they would never get to sell such rifles.