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This Is How It's Done!

nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
http://www.leoaffairs.com/video/raw-video-smart-swat-officer-professionally-handles-open-carry-cop-blockers/

I am proud to give this officer a little publicity!
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  • tneff1969tneff1969 Member Posts: 6,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's how is should be done, great job by the officer.
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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The officer was as cool as a cucumber as the old saying goes. Top notch training and common sense in action! Thanks for the post!
    What's next?
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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Why id the article labeled:"Smart SWAT officer"? He looked like a plain uniformed patrol officer to me..
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  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It was a good job by the officer.

    I have to ask, in the whole argument about "States rights", why does a local cop concern himself with Federal Class 3 enforcement?

    Seems like it should be a 2 way street.. either play by the Fed rules or ignore them.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't know which state this took place in, but some states also have laws against fully automatic firearms.

    Just like bank robbery can be prosecuted either federally or by the state.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Too cool for school...
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,522 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Invitation to educate. Superb.
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Such a bust when someone gets all prepared for a confrontation and they just get rope-a-doped. Great job officer.
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Don't know which state this took place in,


    The officer said it was Oregon, which matches his license plate. From the car and uniform, I'd guess Salem.
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B
    Such a bust when someone gets all prepared for a confrontation and they just get rope-a-doped. Great job officer.


    Exactly what they were looking for....but, the cop outsmarted themby using logic and knowing the laws. [8D]
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  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431 ✭
    edited November -1
    The officer was polite but he was still violating the citizens rights. The whole reason quoted for having reasonable suspicion was that it looked as if it might be a full auto firearm. According to the officer, if it was a full auto then the citizen would be required to have a card and proper tax stamp.

    The officer was still fishing for violations which is a violation of the citizens rights. The officer had no reasonable suspicion the citizen was breaking any laws. Even if the firearm was full auto, the officer had no reason to believe the citizen didn't have the required card or tax stamp.

    All you folks seem to think it is OK to violate Constitutional rights as long as the violater is being polite. You are wrong.

    In this country we operate under a presumption of innocence, which is where this officer fails.

    This is how rights are incrementally lost.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,522 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just wonder how many nuts walk around to draw attention with a rifle over their shoulder in a city setting ? I did notice there was concrete sidewalks or this idiot was in town. Being in a rural setting an Officer would wave at you around here if they drove by and seen you walking down a road. Unless someone called them, which would be highly unlikely.
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Even if the firearm was full auto, the officer had no reason to believe the citizen didn't have the required card or tax stamp.

    In this country we operate under a presumption of innocence, which is where this officer fails.So if I get pulled over and the cop asks me to show proof of vehicle insurance I should tell him to pizz off because he has no reason to presume I don't have it?
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  • 47studebaker47studebaker Member Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    but, but, but I wanted my 15 minutes of fame on facebook !

















    and maybe some "free" money when I would have sued.
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it was a full auto, would a local police have jurisdiction, since it is Federally licensed?
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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Even if the firearm was full auto, the officer had no reason to believe the citizen didn't have the required card or tax stamp.

    In this country we operate under a presumption of innocence, which is where this officer fails.So if I get pulled over and the cop asks me to show proof of vehicle insurance I should tell him to pizz off because he has no reason to presume I don't have it?


    I believe you have agree to show this information when you renewed your driver license. I personally have not read the contract, but there is a lot of implied consent provisions in a drive license.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,522 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nutfinn
    If it was a full auto, would a local police have jurisdiction, since it is Federally licensed?


    Absolutely. They can also detain the weapon and arrest if the party doesn't have paperwork. Now... I would highly doubt that any Class 3 full auto owner would ever stand out in a public area to draw attention to themselves.
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  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Even if the firearm was full auto, the officer had no reason to believe the citizen didn't have the required card or tax stamp.

    In this country we operate under a presumption of innocence, which is where this officer fails.So if I get pulled over and the cop asks me to show proof of vehicle insurance I should tell him to pizz off because he has no reason to presume I don't have it?


    As Don points out, there is a difference between the Constitutionally protected RTKBA and the conditions which apply to traffic stops. There are many conditions imposed upon drivers which I would take issue with as being unconstitutional but that is a different topic.

    Detaining a citizen so the officer can fish for violations is wrong.
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Why id the article labeled:"Smart SWAT officer"? He looked like a plain uniformed patrol officer to me..


    He says in the video that he is on a SWAT officer in regards to his training and experience that made him suspicious that the weapon maybe an automatic weapon.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,522 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Officer could..could take issue when you argue or when you tell them what the law is. Public safety. They might not even gotten a call from a concerned citizen and had every right to stop and check that weapon out. What if the guy wearing it was an idiot or an actual nut case. Would they be ok then to remove the gun from him? Common sense is not very relevant sometimes and it is better to be safe than sorry.
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very professional. So shouldn't we have reasonable expectations of all PD's to operate in this manner?
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  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562 ✭
    edited November -1
    Nicely done! [:)]
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  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some joe calls police because someone has a machine gun. This cop was unable to determine it was a semi auto from across the street as the person who called did?

    Why do we not have laws to stop people from wasting the cops time?
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