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Slide Fire Stocks.... Legal?

Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 2012 in General Discussion

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  • SWAT 50SWAT 50 Member Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For now they are, but then so are Hi cap Mags in most states, for now.[:)]
  • CyclonusCyclonus Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November -1
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    bullshot, so I take it you think the Slide Fire Stock is worth the money? Is it very difficult to transition from semi- to full-auto?
  • jev1969jev1969 Member Posts: 2,691
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.


    Therein lies the problem. "I don't care if they ban something that I don't use." Kinda like some hunters that don't care if "assault weapons" are banned. Here is a quote to chew on:

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I was Protestant.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    Martin Niem?ller on the rise of the Nazi's
  • jev1969jev1969 Member Posts: 2,691
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    bullshot, so I take it you think the Slide Fire Stock is worth the money? Is it very difficult to transition from semi- to full-auto?

    No. Quite easy actually.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    bullshot, so I take it you think the Slide Fire Stock is worth the money? Is it very difficult to transition from semi- to full-auto?


    No, not hard at all. You will throw a lot of money (in ammo) down range with one of these but if you are ok with that, it'll be the best $300.00 you ever spent. the other legal alternative is a $15,000.00 rifle and about $300-$400 in fees and taxes.
    The Slide fire stock is a bargain in my opinion. And if they do become illegal, won't matter cause you will get your money's worth the first time you take it out to shoot.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • buckstarbuckstar Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    That is a lot of money for a stock with a spring in it. I suspect the price is mostly profit and to try and get as much money as they can before China infringes on the patent. Is this of high enough quality construction and materials that one could say it's worth the price beyond it's 'novelty' function?
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buckstar
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    That is a lot of money for a stock with a spring in it. I suspect the price is mostly profit and to try and get as much money as they can before China infringes on the patent. Is this of high enough quality construction and materials that one could say it's worth the price beyond it's 'novelty' function?


    It's all plastic, no spring. No it isn't $300. worth of plastic but it is worth $300. if you want to fire (almost) full auto.
    It's like anything else, it's value is simply "what it's worth to you" Worth it to me.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • buckstarbuckstar Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by buckstar
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
    I personally don't care if the slide fire stocks get banned but I will be very angry if they ban the high capacity magazines.

    I've got both and I would hate to loose either one. [8D]


    That is a lot of money for a stock with a spring in it. I suspect the price is mostly profit and to try and get as much money as they can before China infringes on the patent. Is this of high enough quality construction and materials that one could say it's worth the price beyond it's 'novelty' function?


    It's all plastic, no spring. No it isn't $300. worth of plastic but it is worth $300. if you want to fire (almost) full auto.
    It's like anything else, it's value is simply "what it's worth to you" Worth it to me.


    Yeah, it seems like it would be fun to try out but after the whole hellfire trigger leading to the Waco Siege thing, I would be concerned about the noise using such a device would make, even if it is legal. Perhaps if I lived near a desert or something.
  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ...First off, it does not convert any gun to "full auto", the gun its installed on stays semi auto.

    At present it meets the ATF requirement of one shot per one trigger pull, condensed explanation but basically the ATF rule.

    Its basically a stock that for the most part does the "bump firing" for the operator.

    A friend of my SIL bought one....works very well for what it is.
    I enjoyed the snot out of it, simple and works well!

    IF you like full auto, you should like this furniture.

    Worth it?

    Personally I wouldnt give $100 for a box car full of 91/30 Nagants where some people happily pay more than that for one, depends on what an individual is willing to pay to have fun...[;)]
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like this subject has never come up before, where the hell is Kevin when you need him.
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    Like this subject has never come up before, where the hell is Kevin when you need him.



    Can't be everywhere at once....
  • fizzerfizzer Member Posts: 748 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did anyone notice one of his first comments(00:25), he put the stock on his ar15 pistol. Now he has an illegal sbr.
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins
    How can these be legal? If they are, next thing on the chopping block?

    Video in action:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BFarrICWs&feature=g-logo&context=G2d27eb8FOAAAAAAAJAA

    Product page:

    http://www.slidefiresolutions.com/Product-SSAR-15.html#dd-ssar
    Legal for now, overpriced, but legal.
    I've thought of getting one for my AK for the heckuvit tho, but that gun bump fires for itself if you don't hold it tight
  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fizzer
    Did anyone notice one of his first comments(00:25), he put the stock on his ar15 pistol. Now he has an illegal sbr.
    Unless the pistol had 16" barrel [:)]
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    "How can these be legal? If they are, next thing on the chopping block"

    They are legal because nothing but the operator's trigger is firing the gun in quick semi-auto mode.

    Next on the chopping block? Well, let's just say the more concerned you are [about this aspect], the quicker you will purchase one.

    Conclusion: it allows a person inexperienced with bump-fire to become proficient [in bump-firing] quickly.

    Now, a caveat..you should have the type of AR stock that uses the castle-nut to secure a takedown pin spring retaining plate. The plate is not part of AR's that use A1, or A2 stocks. See paragraph below.

    It won't work on an AR that has the standard A1, or A2 stock, as removal of the stock to install the slide-fire stock will allow the takedown pin spring to fall out.

    Also, it's lefty-righty specific. Make sure which one you are ordering, especially if you wish to shoot lefty. Best, Joe
  • fizzerfizzer Member Posts: 748 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nutfinn
    quote:Originally posted by fizzer
    Did anyone notice one of his first comments(00:25), he put the stock on his ar15 pistol. Now he has an illegal sbr.
    Unless the pistol had 16" barrel [:)]


    The firearm he is using certainly is under 16", closer to 7.5
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you own one before it is banned, it will still be legal to own and use. To sell it, you would have have to force the BATF to register it. It's a lot of work, but you can do it. The slide fire has a batf letter so it's good to go.

    You know those gsg .22's that looked like the mp5? The batf come out and said the fake cans on those could be made into real cans, so they made the mfg redesign them. There was a recall issued on the originals and if you sent yours in you are genuine *. A very very good friend of mine has one and he made the batf register it. He didn't even have to pay the $200 but he now has a nfa stamp on a fake can. Which means he can make it a can anytime he feels the need.
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