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Gen. Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. "

So who in the government did tell "anybody" not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why-and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations-did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

http://tinyurl.com/94opw7g

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  • mrankhmrankh Member Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. "

    So who in the government did tell "anybody" not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why-and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations-did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

    http://tinyurl.com/94opw7g



    Gen. Patraeus(R) [8D][:D]

    haha but anyway thats ridiculous maybe potus is making a swing to show some muscle and try to win some swing votes?
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would trust Petraeus about as much as the Kenyan.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    With the prez & secty of st not wanting to offend any of the brotherhood, I can see where the embassy staff would be sacrificed with the hope that any specifics would not be known until after votes were cast.
  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    How is Petraeus' statement in any way throwing Obama under the bus?

    I think a great many people are reading way too much into this, taking the smallest of hopes, rumors, or insinuations and blowing them up into supposedly ironclad and damning evidence against Obama.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    How is Petraeus' statement in any way throwing Obama under the bus?




    exactly...somebody is telling the truth..and it ain't obama.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    (Take it for what its worth) On Rush's show today, a Ret. Lieutenant Colonel called in. He stuck his neck out a little and explained how the communication works- After hearing what He said, I was left with no doubt in my mind everything is a lie-

    Here it the transcript and its very informative.
    http://tinyurl.com/8e9m8h7
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    If only it were a literal bus and not a figurative one.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gary wray
    Evidently the two Seals on the ground called in for help...twice...and it was refused...by who we don't know. And they were killed. This is a big deal in my book and someone (Sec Lamb? Panetta? The Hil? POTUS?) should be held responsible and action taken. Four brave guys died asking for help from their gov't and were turned down. The CIA is making the statement that they were not the ones who denied the help...the question is...who did? No one died at Watergate....


    Sorry if I am ranting, But the Jimmy Carter botched rescue attempt is still a thorn in my side, as it took one of my close family members life.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gary wray
    Evidently the two Seals on the ground called in for help...twice...and it was refused...by who we don't know. And they were killed. This is a big deal in my book and someone (Sec Lamb? Panetta? The Hil? POTUS?) should be held responsible and action taken. Four brave guys died asking for help from their gov't and were turned down. The CIA is making the statement that they were not the ones who denied the help...the question is...who did? No one died at Watergate....


    The two former SEALs were CIA. I imagine the CIA is pretty ticked off that this is being dumped at their feet when it was their folks that were left hanging with no military support to begin with. CIA Director Petraeus should resign and walk away from this if he wants to retain his honor. There is no way he'll be able to talk because they'll shove a non-disclosure agreement down his throat, but he should make a simple statement and walk out the door.
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote: CIA Director Petraeus should resign

    Close, but wrong guy(s)- try Allah'bama, Hillary & Panetta.
  • Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reports I heard where Obama, Biden, and Panetta were meeting in the Oval Office within two hours of the beginning of the attack. You can't tell me they didn't know what was going on.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's only the beginning of more lies and cover ups if obama get's back in. We haven't seen nothing yet and I hope the liberals wake up and vote obama out.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Obama's disrespect of our Nation is only overshadowed by his willingness to kill Americans to make him look good. He knew the attack was underway within 30 minutes of the first shot. His administration watched as Americans died, it is the way he operates.

    See, troops deaths, Afghanistan 2009-present.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Video of an American AC-130 raining destruction down on Benghazi would have told the world our policy in Libya was a failure

    The administration couldn't allow that.
  • Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Video of an American AC-130 raining destruction down on Benghazi would have told the world our policy in Libya was a failure

    The administration couldn't allow that.


    Disagree. It would have told the world that our Consulate was under attack, and we will fight back to protect our people.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Video of an American AC-130 raining destruction down on Benghazi would have told the world our policy in Libya was a failure

    The administration couldn't allow that.

    +1 Billion!
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins

    Disagree. It would have told the world that our Consulate was under attack, and we will fight back to protect our people.


    You're confusing reality with what really matter in politics......perception.

    The public and the world don't want to see corrective action taken to correct a problem or crisis.....they'd rather believe the problem doesn't exist in the first place.


    The choice was to either admit the failure(right before an election, no less) or to pretend everything was a success and bet that the compound wouldn't be overrun. If the compound hadn't fallen, the attack wouldn't have warranted anymore than a 15 second blurb on the morning news shows.

    American lives were lost in on that bet, and heads need to roll.
  • Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins

    Disagree. It would have told the world that our Consulate was under attack, and we will fight back to protect our people.


    You're confusing reality with what really matter in politics......perception.

    The public and the world don't want to see corrective action taken to correct a problem or crisis.....they'd rather believe the problem doesn't exist in the first place.


    The choice was to either admit the failure(right before an election, no less) or to pretend everything was a success and bet that the compound wouldn't be overrun. If the compound hadn't fallen, the attack wouldn't have warranted anymore than a 15 second blurb on the morning news shows.

    American lives were lost in on that bet, and heads need to roll.


    RO, I understand where you're coming from. Guess I'm old school. You admit your failures and deal with them. Some people will pretend those failures don't exist or they belong to someone else. I also wouldn't leave my people hanging out to dry, whether my policy was a failure or not.
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