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25 years ago today

Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2017 in General Discussion
My father died. Seems that time has stood still in that moment, and his memory is as fresh in my mind as it was a quarter century ago!

He remembered the first world war, had to leave home and find work during the Great Depression, was a WWII Navy sailor who fought in the Pacific theater, started the family business, and raised a dozen kids.

He would always say that he was just an average American.

I could never come close to filling such shoes. I miss you dad.[V]
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

Brad Steele

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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was on a project in Siberia USSR , about 50kms out of a city called Raduzhny, wondering what was going to go down and how we could come up with a plan to get out of Russia to the South, if the kidnapping of Mikhail Gorbchev and the coup went bad.

    Interesting time.


    Mule
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They came for Randy Weaver, and I did nothing.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is not much anyone could have done.


    The US Marshall's were conducting a recon and got blown. They got busted by a dog and they killed the dog, then the balloon went up.

    They had no plan for getting busted on the recon.
    RLTW

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Yep. Same here. In my own defense I was in college in the Seattle area and my only awareness of the issue was what the media was falsely reporting. They're STILL falsely reporting about it, if you watched KHQ this am. Very disappointing.[xx(]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    and the charge against horiuchi was moved to a federal venue and dismissed....later the "hero" H was given an AWARD for his meritorious service ...always disappointed me that he retired and "lived safely" in comfort...
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,234 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    They came for Randy Weaver, and I did nothing.


    Yep, same here.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah I couldn't have helped the shame is in 25 years we haven't been able to elect a group of legislators to prevent that crap from happening again
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
    and the charge against horiuchi was moved to a federal venue and dismissed....later the "hero" H was given an AWARD for his meritorious service ...always disappointed me that he retired and "lived safely" in comfort...
    Lon went on to do dirty deeds down in Waco too. What a pile of human debris.[xx(]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They barbequed the men, women, and children at Waco, and I did nothing.
    What's next?
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    They barbequed the men, women, and children at Waco, and I did nothing.
    What's next?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    most of you did not have keyboards or online back then, what could you do ?




    jab at the crowd that thinks emailing representatives will get things done
  • JohnnyBGoodJohnnyBGood Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    jab at the crowd that thinks emailing representatives will get things done



    Oh, no. I sent a real letter to the RNC and my state Republican office. Type written, in an envelope with a stamp, and signed by me and my wife. And...oh yeah...the letter contains a curse word too!

    That will get their attention. Expect big changes by the Republicans in the coming days!
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i met him once
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
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    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    i met him once


    Talked with Sara for a while at a local gun show a few years back. A truly beautiful human being.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Local radio news yesterday did a 2 minute report on the siege and the Weavers.

    Turns out Randy Weaver specifically chose North Idaho because of all of the racists that lived there at the time.

    Apparently it had nothing to do with the widely reported facts of the time.

    It is so easy after 25 years to re-write history in an effort to excuse the actions of Government at the time.

    Not to make too big of a deal out of it, but it is the same thing that is going on regarding statues and monuments.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Local radio news yesterday did a 2 minute report on the siege and the Weavers.

    Turns out Randy Weaver specifically chose North Idaho because of all of the racists that lived there at the time.

    Apparently it had nothing to do with the widely reported facts of the time.

    It is so easy after 25 years to re-write history in an effort to excuse the actions of Government at the time.

    Not to make too big of a deal out of it, but it is the same thing that is going on regarding statues and monuments.
    I'm sure Randy was surprised to learn of it. Who knew?!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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