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Dog attack fatalities for 2014

Dyer_MakerDyer_Maker Member Posts: 1,018
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
It seems again that the pittbull leads in dog attack fatalities for 2014. If you look at the link and go towards the bottom of the page, it has pictures of the victims and what happened. It is very sad, most are elderly females and small children. http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php

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  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?
    probably some little yap dog that bounces when it barks. No one cares if they bite so they do, and do it often.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.


    I beg to differ.

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  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?

    Chi-wa-wa, dachshund, and Chow.

    Pit bulls (and other large breeds) are the AR15's of the canine world, they account for the smallest number of bites but get the most publicity when they do, similar to when AR's are used in mass shootings.

    Another analogy would be getting shot by a bb gun or a 45, More people get shot by bb guns than 45's, but the 45 is going to do a helluva lot more damage.
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Scratch the AR-15 reference. Pit Bulls KILL more often than any other breed. Its not a list about bites, its a list of fatalities and breed responsible. Im not seeing any Labs on that list. quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?

    Chi-wa-wa, dachshund, and Chow.

    Pit bulls (and other large breeds) are the AR15's of the canine world, they account for the smallest number of bites but get the most publicity when they do, similar to when AR's are used in mass shootings.

    Another analogy would be getting shot by a bb gun or a 45, More people get shot by bb guns than 45's, but the 45 is going to do a helluva lot more damage.
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steve45
    Scratch the AR-15 reference. Pit Bulls KILL more often than any other breed. Its not a list about bites, its a list of fatalities and breed responsible. Im not seeing any Labs on that list.
    ...

    it's still 45 vs BB Gun.
    45 more likely to kill than BB gun.

    Remember when Rottweilers were as maligned Pits?
    I had 2 of those "horrible, viscous" rotties, and unless you were a biscuit, a cat, actively trying to harm me or my family or I told them to, they showed no aggression to anybody.

    Pits or any other large breed is the same way. It all boils to the owner and how the animals are treated/trained.
    Do some dogs snap? Yes, Do some people snap? Yes.

    I have been around several pits, but don't have a pit, never have and probably never will, and they really don't hold an appeal to me,(certain guns don't hold any appeal to me either) but I hate seeing a certain group (people or animals) unfairly singled out.
    If you look at it, it is no different from one maniac (or a few maniacs) with a gun snapping and killing several people and the vast majority of gun owners getting blamed for the actions of a miniscule number/percentage of the group.
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    Outlaw stupid pit bull owners

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I dont own a Pit so not defending them BUT one thing I have noticed,,the press/police report all big headed dog attacks as Pit Bulls the same way they report all shootings with a long gun being done with an assault weapon,
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe pitbulls should be euthanized unless the blood work proves them to have never been the product of inbreeding.

    next, any potential owner should have to pass a course showing they have the ability and strength to prove dominance over said dog.

    The owner will also have insurance for over $1M dollars on the dog for any damage it does to anyone else.

    Any mauling will be a criminal offense, and will be charged against the owner, and he/she will serve the same prison time as if he/she would have committed the crime themselves.

    That will stop the losers from breeding them, and the losers from buying or owning them[8] There are only a small percentage of people in society who can correctly deal with powerful dogs.

    I made a 150lb rotty understand that when I raise my voice, he MUST submit. He was a great dog, but when he was young, and he felt he needed to exert his dominance, I made sure he understood I was the alpha male.[}:)]
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There; fixed it for you [:D]quote:Originally posted by JustC
    I believe pitbulls should be euthanized unless the blood work proves them to have never been the product of inbreeding.

    next, any potential owner should have to pass a course showing they have the ability and strength to prove dominance over said dog.

    The owner will also have insurance for over $1M dollars on the dog for any damage it does to anyone else.

    Any mauling will be a criminal offense, and will be charged against the owner, and he/she will serve the same prison time as if he/she would have committed the crime themselves.

    That will stop the losers from breeding them, and the losers from buying or owning them[8] There are only a small percentage of people in society who can correctly deal with powerful dogs.

    I made a 150lb rotty understand that when I raise my voice, he MUST submit. He was a great dog, but when he was young, and he felt he needed to exert his dominance, I made sure he understood I was the alpha male.[}:)]
  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.


    I beg to differ.

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    Beat me to it.
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.


    I beg to differ.

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    Beat me to it.
    [/quote]

    I am not a dog lover, rather a dog tolerater, but I have to tell you that those 3 dogs are probably the most beautiful dogs I have ever seen.
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MG1890
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.


    I beg to differ.

    threestooges_zps7ad6978e.jpg

    Beat me to it.


    I am not a dog lover, rather a dog tolerater, but I have to tell you that those 3 dogs are probably the most beautiful dogs I have ever seen.
    [/quote]

    Thank you! Those are my boys, and every one of them is a lover and does not know what a stranger is. They look at everybody as "friends they have not met yet". Father and two sons. Dad on left, Oldest son in middle, and youngest on the right. Beau, Ike, And Leelou.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Posted this report on a local news information facebook page. Man did that start a major fight between pit bull owners and the anti pit bull people.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dyer_Maker
    It seems again that the pittbull leads in dog attack fatalities for 2014. If you look at the link and go towards the bottom of the page, it has pictures of the victims and what happened. It is very sad, most are elderly females and small children. http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php

    The statistics were a little off,, pit bull killed 17.98 per day. Article says 18 it did say about,, but not how much about. The article specifically said:
    The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 10-year period. From 2005 to 2014, pit bulls killed 203 Americans, about one citizen every 18 days,

    Should we assume NOT ONE illegal alien, visitor, maybe a Canadian has ever been killed? This is not obsessive ,, just a compulsion to get the facts.
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why is it that the people that take their pitbulls out into public events seem to have a huge "look at me attitude" ?

    Spiked collars (on the dogs and the owners), tattoos (we're only talking owners from here on out), chrome, piercings, wife beaters, just basically trailer trash thug wannabees.

    Seems the dog breed and human owners kinda gravitate towards each other.

    So, that being said, pitbull owners, please explain why you specifically chose a pitbull as your dog. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of breeds available, so why the pit?

    Do pitbulls have even one trait (besides killing) that they excel at so much that no other dog compares?

    Or is it really just a look at me thing?
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd like to see personality profiles of pit bull owners.
    One down the block just killed the little pup of our neighbor's little daughter. She tried to break it up and doesn't realize how lucky she is she wasn't attacked.
    Owners insist they trained out of them what was bred into them in the first place to create the breeds.
    Along with insurance companies, I don't buy it.
    Loaded guns with hair triggers and half a brain to discriminate when to pull it.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    The stats:
    44 deaths by dog last year (you have a better chance getting struck by lightening)
    Most all the deaths involved small children and women over 40.

    I can see why cops are so afraid of dogs!


    Oh, but just think how many lives were saved by cops shooting dogs!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.

    It still comes down to the owner. It's rare for a gun to go off on its own, but happens. Any large dog is capable of causing severe damage. But there are a larger percentage of bad owners that get pits for the wrong reasons, and it is a shame.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.

    It still comes down to the owner. It's rare for a gun to go off on its own, but happens. Any large dog is capable of causing severe damage. But there are a larger percentage of bad owners that get pits for the wrong reasons, and it is a shame.
    You seem to be cluing in as to why the link is so tenuous.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.

    It still comes down to the owner. It's rare for a gun to go off on its own, but happens. Any large dog is capable of causing severe damage. But there are a larger percentage of bad owners that get pits for the wrong reasons, and it is a shame.
    You seem to be cluing in as to why the link is so tenuous.

    It is actually a very accurate analogy.
    A small minority messes up and the responsible majority pays the price.
    It is also rare for a pit (like the gun going off) to snap, but it does happen and when it does it gets tons of publicity, even though the majority have responsible owners (not unlike guns)and never have an incident.
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?

    WIthout a doubt,it has to be the "Chow dogs",,,,ANy dog with a curly tail is NOT to be trusted.


    I beg to differ.

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    I agree!

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8opVNCDuBS4#t=3
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    More to do with the owner.....Dogs are animals that have been domesticated..Just follow your local laws...if some ones dog attacks you in your yard,take action....if dog attacks you in a public area...take action,if your in owners yard and get attacked,you shouldn't have been there..Get the shovel out if some ones dog comes in my yard and threatens me...anything with teeth and claws can do you harm,even your pet cat...I am an animal advocate,but I will not put and animal above a humans life are property..nothing is written in stone...[:o)]
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pit-bulls were genetically bred to kill.
    I question if and how much killer instinct can be modified by training.
    A mandatory 2 million dollar liability policy might help owners contain them better.
    Why own a butt ugly dog when there are so many handsome dog breeds?
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.

    It still comes down to the owner. It's rare for a gun to go off on its own, but happens. Any large dog is capable of causing severe damage. But there are a larger percentage of bad owners that get pits for the wrong reasons, and it is a shame.
    You seem to be cluing in as to why the link is so tenuous.

    It is actually a very accurate analogy.
    A small minority messes up and the responsible majority pays the price.
    It is also rare for a pit (like the gun going off) to snap, but it does happen and when it does it gets tons of publicity, even though the majority have responsible owners (not unlike guns)and never have an incident.
    Apparently, I was mistaken about the degree to which you were cluing in, so let me help you out a bit. If you will note, just last year alone there were 27 deaths (DEATHS!) attributed to Pit Bull attack. And that was just for one year. One year! I don't think you could find 27 cases where a gun went off all on its own and killed ANYONE in the history of guns.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Pit-bulls were genetically bred to kill.
    I question if and how much killer instinct can be modified by training.
    A mandatory 2 million dollar liability policy might help owners contain them better.
    Why own a butt ugly dog when there are so many handsome dog breeds?
    Being butt ugly sure isn't helping their case, that is for sure.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steve45
    Scratch the AR-15 reference. Pit Bulls KILL more often than any other breed. Its not a list about bites, its a list of fatalities and breed responsible. Im not seeing any Labs on that list.
    A Lab could drown you when they go into a licking frenzy. [:D]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Ownership of these time bombs is indefensible.

    Anti-gunners say the same about certain guns. And the libs say the same about vets,and other patriots that ascribe to the "extreme ideology" that the constitution is the law of the land
    The link between dogs and guns is tenuous at best. Guns (like politicians) are inanimate and do not operate independent of the owner/possessor. Dogs, however are capable of independent thought and action and operate on instinct at will.

    It still comes down to the owner. It's rare for a gun to go off on its own, but happens. Any large dog is capable of causing severe damage. But there are a larger percentage of bad owners that get pits for the wrong reasons, and it is a shame.
    You seem to be cluing in as to why the link is so tenuous.

    It is actually a very accurate analogy.
    A small minority messes up and the responsible majority pays the price.
    It is also rare for a pit (like the gun going off) to snap, but it does happen and when it does it gets tons of publicity, even though the majority have responsible owners (not unlike guns)and never have an incident.
    Apparently, I was mistaken about the degree to which you were cluing in, so let me help you out a bit. If you will note, just last year alone there were 27 deaths (DEATHS!) attributed to Pit Bull attack. And that was just for one year. One year! I don't think you could find 27 cases where a gun went off all on its own and killed ANYONE in the history of guns.

    Could just as easily be bad owners as bad animals. How many people were KILLED last year by guns with bad owners? I`d wager most.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
    I did not read the link yet, but may I ask what dog bites the most often?

    I understand the pits are built for biting with real power, but what breed is most likely to bite?
    probably some little yap dog that bounces when it barks. No one cares if they bite so they do, and do it often.


    One like these two has gotten me twice and no not my dog.

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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03

    Could just as easily be bad owners as bad animals. How many people were KILLED last year by guns with bad owners? I`d wager most.
    Wow. I amazed. Not by the fact you missed the point, but the breadth by which you missed it.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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