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Voter Fraud

TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
Should voter fraud be considerd treason,heard something about it on the radio today.I think it is because they are defrauding the American people aren't they?

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  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My FIL has been in a nursing home for 3 yrs,
    hasn't voted for years before he went in (confined to home).
    The poor man met his maker August 20th.
    October 10th,my MIL got a form to fill out
    so that my FIl can register to vote in town.
    We called the town hall and nobody seems to
    know how this happened.[}:)]
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The democraps are screaming to get the commission stopped that was formed to investigate voter fraud. Funny they say there is no fraud but are trying to get the commission stopped.

    They should be the first to embrace this commission so they could prove illegals and dead people don't vote.

    What are they afraid of hahahaha
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    now we already know Holder wont prosecute anyone who votes for obama.
    But are the states going to do anything. they are doing anything in their power to stop the military vote, which is sad, the troops put their * on the line and the administration is doing everything possible to stop their votes. why are we not hearing more about this?

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/10/undercover-video-obama-workers-enable-double-voting-across-state-lines/

    A new undercover video from James O'Keefe's Project Veritas shows how an Obama for America staffer gives advice to an undercover reporter on how to vote twice in the upcoming election. She even includes a ballot in the process. Obama for America Houston Director Stephanie Caballero is the salaried employee of the Democrat National Committee. The undercover reporter explains that she wants to vote in two states: Texas and Florida.

    According to O'Keefe, "These individuals showed no concern whatsoever when our investigators declared their intention to vote multiple times for President Obama. In fact, they were happy to help, even going so far as to provide the forms necessary to commit the fraud and offering advice on how to avoid getting caught."

    His website reports,

    For much of 2012, Project Veritas has been conducting an ongoing series of investigations in more than a dozen states demonstrating the ease with which election fraud can be committed and legitimate voters can be disenfranchised. And they've shown that no one is immune. In April, a Project Veritas investigator was even offered the ballot of Attorney General Eric Holder himself.

    "But no matter how many times we've proven the danger," said O'Keefe, "our concerns have been dismissed by the media while efforts to correct the problem at the state level have been actively blocked by the Obama administration. Now we know why."

    This latest footage was gathered over several weeks in Texas and New Jersey. It shows Obama campaign workers, including Organizing for America Regional Field Director Stephanie Caballero, providing material assistance to individuals who state explicitly that they intend to commit election fraud.

    There is no doubt that these workers know exactly what they are doing.

    When the undercover reporter asks for help to vote twice, Caballero says, "Oh my god this is so funny. It's cool though!"

    Far from cool, it's a federal crime. Former DOJ Attorney Christian Adams explains:

    Obama campaign attorney Robert Bauer should be emailing memos to every paid staffer detailing 42 USC 1973i(e) and 42 USC ? 1973gg-10(2). The former federal law makes it illegal to vote twice. The latter law prohibits fraudulent voting in a federal election. 18 USC 2 makes it illegal to aid and abet election fraud.

    Encouraging voter participation of marginal legality is nothing new for the Obama campaign. In 2008, they had an elaborate web portal for college students, encouraging some to register to vote where they went to school, discouraging others. The overall goal was to get students attending college in battleground states registered to vote in those states regardless of their actual domicile. If a student from a battleground state went to college in a safe red or blue state, they were encouraged to keep their registration in their home battleground state.

    The Obama campaign website in 2008 never told the students to cancel their original voter registration. Nor did it provide guidelines for what constituted bona fide domicile.

    Currently, voter watchdog groups like True the Vote are conducting data crunching to determine who may have violated federal election law in 2008 by voting in two states for President. If someone does it again in 2012, it will eventually be caught thanks to the efforts of private parties combing voter rolls.

    Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation in Washington said, "It's absolutely illegal to help someone double vote." he cited 42 U.S.C.1973gg-10.

    Watchdog.org reports,

    "A lot of people don't realize that, in addition to everything that everyone knows about the National Voter Registration Act - that it allowed mail-in ballots and registration through vehicle licensing departments - the last part of the statute put in criminal penalties for fraudulent registration," said von Spakovsky, who had not yet seen the video.

    Chief among the crimes outlined in the code, said von Spakovsky, is the requirement that "you can only register someplace where your claim to be a permanent resident. Obviously, you can't be a resident of two states."

    Von Spakovsky said helping a voter cast two ballots "would be a violation because you're submitting fraudulent information in a registration form."

    He said prosecutors might also charge voter-registration workers in similar situations with more general violations - conspiracy, for instance, and aiding and abetting a criminal act.

    We all know that there is shenanigans that take place across the voting spectrum, but to actually help someone like this from a campaign and it be caught on video is truly amazing. What are the implications of the ability to vote twice? Well, let's just say this video demonstrates exactly why Voter ID laws need to be in place so that we don't have to be concerned with whether someone is voting twice or not.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    according to a few members here they is no voter fraud
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lack of specific evidence is sufficient to discount voter fraud.

    Lack of specific evidence means we need to investigate collusion further.

    I am sure it makes sense on some level.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    edited November -1
    Voter ID's would be a very simple fix for this big problem.

    We all carry and pay for a drivers license. I would surely be willing to pay for a voter ID that would give our UNCLE SAM another income venue as well as put the miserable crooks in office that don't belong there a boot in the *!
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If Al Gore had his way. The voter fraudsters would have been more rampant then they are...

    If I need to jump thru hoops to get a firearms ID. Lets have proof for the privilege of voting who runs the show.
    "What is truth?'
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
    If Al Gore had his way. The voter fraudsters would have been more rampant then they are...

    If I need to jump thru hoops to get a firearms ID. Lets have proof for the privilege of voting who runs the show.


    Well put
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    So how many were there?
    100?
    1000?
    100,000?
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    So how many were there?
    100?
    1000?
    100,000?




    That is the pt1490.jpg
    I suspect much much more than the sum of those numbers.....
    And it has been going on a long time. Back in the 90's a friend of mines wife was a social worker in Chicago. She was a Mexican national married to a lily white gringo. (She was legal) but the people she serviced in the community were not. They do it to keep themselves in the free stuff line and since nobody stops them it is rampant. This election and the last 3 were not even close if the illegals and dead people had been eliminated. Same thing for the local elections.


    If I have to show ID to get on a plane but do not to VOTE something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the process.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to agree, Capt. It is tough to explain why the left fights so hard against voter verification and voting fraud investigation for any reason other than after years of cemetery voting in Chicago and elsewhere they know how bad it is.

    We had a local case a few years ago where people canvassing for an election discovered 28 people registered to vote...in an 800 sf house. Several were listed as the same birthday with different years. Others with the same first and/or middle name with various last names. And most of them had no background info. They weren't in phone book, Facebook, nothing. Ghosts. Phantoms.

    After it hit the news, the Democrat controlled elections office said they would look into it, but any follow up was met with 'voter privacy' BS.

    I have managed a number of campaigns over the last 5 years, and I have found several cases where someone was registered to vote that I knew didn't live at that house and never had. If you are registered, but request an absentee ballot, a regular ballot is never mailed to the house, so the people who live there have no idea someone else is registered at that address.
  • mnrivrat48mnrivrat48 Member Posts: 1,707 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    From what I understand they have found a good deal of voter fraud. Most of it benefiting the democrats. Not hard to understand why they would want further investigating to stop.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's been going on for at least 150 years. The Democrats have become VERY good at it. With all the absentee ballots in Kalifornia you don't suppose there might be a few people "helping" people fill out the ballots? You don't suppose there might be some who would register multiple times in various places & sell their votes for drugs? Maybe four million or so?
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    It's been going on for at least 150 years. The Democrats have become VERY good at it. With all the absentee ballots in Kalifornia you don't suppose there might be a few people "helping" people fill out the ballots? You don't suppose there might be some who would register multiple times in various places & sell their votes for drugs? Maybe four million or so?


    4,000,000? That's a huge number!

    Do you think it's only Democrats? Or are Republicans and Libertarians doing it too?
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good thing it is all on the up and up, isn't it Mr. P? [;)]

    It is great fun seeing people try to pretend 'everybody does it'. One political party keeps trying to investigate voter fraud, the other fights the idea of any investigation. It doesn't take a terribly high IQ to form an intelligent opinion as to who is doing the fraud.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    And voter ID laws are wasict!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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