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this is concerning??? UPDATE

SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
edited February 2013 in General Discussion
I purchased a gun on the auction side the other day. the seller has 1 positive feedback total.
i checked his feedback on his purchase and it included "....fast payment...." and the feedback was dated the same day as the purchase.
then the item is relisted and resold the next day.
here's the auction:
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327285352
doesn't seem Kosher to me.
any opinions/ideas?
thanks
tom
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Nevermind, I think I am confused. What are you trying to say tito?[:D]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is strange...

    So you won this rifle the second time? The seller has 13 feedback
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice to see you back, Tom.

    Hope all is well.
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Nevermind, I think I am confused. What are you trying to say tito?[:D]


    second that
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  • proappproapp Member Posts: 3,264
    edited November -1
    Glad ur back.

    Is he flipping guns?
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by proapp
    Glad ur back.

    Is he flipping guns?


    Its the same seller....maybe he has more than one, selling one at a time, just relisting to save time.
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    I'm talking about the buyer in the original listing.
    but, it gets better:
    the seller in the original auction (with the 13 rating) BID AGAINST ME in the auction I won!!


    Home : All > Firearms > Rifles > Semi Auto Rifles
    COLT AR 15 PREBAN .223 with 1 30 Round Mag AR15

    Auction # 327281057
    Congratulations tplumeri, you are the Winner of Item 327281057
    Leave Feedback for rsblair








    Current Bid $1,650.00 No Reserve! Started at $1,600.00
    Quantity 1 # of bids 3 Bid History
    Time left Listing has Ended
    15 minute rule Location San Tan Valley, AZ 85140
    Start 1/24/2013 9:05:01 PM ET (This is a 3 day auction)
    Ends On or After 1/27/2013 9:15:18 PM ET (GunBroker.com Official Time)

    Seller
    rsblair A+(1)
    View the feedback of this seller | View seller's other auctions | Ask seller a question
    Winning Bidder tplumeri A+(85)

    Payment Methods Money Order / Certified Check, See Item Description
    Sales Tax Seller does not collect sales tax
    Shipping
    Priority Mail: $40.00
    No international shipments.
    See Item Description.
    Weight 6.00 Pounds
    Inspection Period / Return Policy AS IS - No refund or exchange
    Item Condition Used
    Requires FFL? Yes



    Seller: rsblair


    Description for Item # 327281057


    You are viewing a PREBAN COLT AR-15 SPORTER TARGET MODEL with 1 30 round mag. Very early production. Four digit serial number. Upgraded bolt carrier. No sear block (Never had one). As you can see from the pictures, this gun is in Excellent Condition!

    I'm gonna report this to the Capt.
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  • legearlegear Member Posts: 6,716
    edited November -1
    LF has delt with him. Stand up guy?




    Thank you for the fast payment and worry free transaction. I hope you watch my auctions and I get to send more your way! Let us know if we can ever help you with your sales! We take consignments!


    Select





    Locust Fork A+(3369)
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    This guy is going to have problems.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Somehow some of the bid history on the first auction has been deleted? I only see 2 bids/bidders now.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The seller left positive feedback for the buyer 15 minutes after the one day auction ended. That is strange.

    Hi Tom, good to see ya.
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spartacus
    I purchased a gun on the auction side the other day. the seller has 1 positive feedback total.
    i checked his feedback on his purchase and it included "....fast payment...." and the feedback was dated the same day as the purchase.
    then the item is relisted and resold the next day.
    here's the auction:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327285352
    doesn't seem Kosher to me.
    any opinions/ideas?
    thanks
    tom
    The seller's name and name in the pics don't match??
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nutfinn
    quote:Originally posted by Spartacus
    I purchased a gun on the auction side the other day. the seller has 1 positive feedback total.
    i checked his feedback on his purchase and it included "....fast payment...." and the feedback was dated the same day as the purchase.
    then the item is relisted and resold the next day.
    here's the auction:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327285352
    doesn't seem Kosher to me.
    any opinions/ideas?
    thanks
    tom
    The seller's name and name in the pics don't match??
    Nope. Not in any of the three auctions involved here. That's some bad juju.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    I turned it over to auction customer servive, haven't heard back yet.
    meantime, the seller has emailed me 3 times and called twice asking when to expect payment.
    seller says he won't ship thru an FFL, even if i pay the additional costs.
    I hope the Capt nails this guy!

    tom
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do you mean, he won't ship it to the FFL, or use FFL to ship to your FFL?
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    he won't use an FFL to ship to my FFL.
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spartacus
    he won't use an FFL to ship to my FFL.
    One does not have to use FFL to ship a rifle, correct?
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    correct, but why would he not want to if i pay the cost?
    BTW not all FFL's will accept a gun shipment from a non FFL.


    tom
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spartacus
    correct, but why would he not want to if i pay the cost?
    BTW not all FFL's will accept a gun shipment from a non FFL.


    tom
    That I do not know, if you are willing to pay the cost, I would, but them again Kasey is my FFL [:D]
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  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048 ✭
    edited November -1
    MOST FFl dealers won't receive a gun unless it is shipped from another ffl dealer
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  • DRP-AZDRP-AZ Member Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That means most FFLs are stupid, don't know the rules or are rigging the market.

    OP, tell this guy I'm RIGHT down the street. If he's straight up, he'll bring the gun here and I'll ship it to your FFL on my UPS account.

    Actually, you can tell him you're only sending funds here, that'll flush him out.

    San Tan Valley is 4 minutes from my shop.
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  • JasonVJasonV Member Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pietro75
    MOST FFl dealers won't receive a gun unless it is shipped from another ffl dealer


    Not here. The FFLs don't give a rip who ships it to them.
    formerly known as warpig883
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The auction (seller: rsblair) you won:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327281057

    That auction has photos used in this auction (won by rsblair on Jan. 15):
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326104475

    It looks like he's purchased and immediately resold it using some of the original seller's (buggyboat's) photos.



    The seller of the auction you won (rsblair), "won" this one too:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327285352

    This one has photos lifted from this listing:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=325753131

    There is something weird going on with those listings; perhaps shill bidding? The seller in the auction you won (rsblair) might be involved in it (at the very least, he's not using his own photos when doing his listing -- which is suspicious) but I have other things to do than trying to research this more. (GB has better tools to get to the bottom of this too.)
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  • FreudianSlippersFreudianSlippers Member Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to be pretty dumb to steal photos that are watermarked with another user name.
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    I agree with all the comments. something is very wrong with this seller.
    DRP, thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it.
    that's basically why I asked to go thru an FFL, just another level of security. figured i'd send the $$ to the FFL.
    I really doubt I will ever see a gun from this auction.
    but i won't be sending out a MO anytime soon.
    hope this doesnt screw up my feedback rating (100%).
    BTW, compet... thanks for that info, i didn't dig that deep, but it sure makes the whole affair more suspicious.

    tom
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