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Question for LEOs
trapguy2007
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About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
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A guy meets a girl and gives her a ride on his bike. While they're riding down the highway, she falls off the bike(DUE TO NO FAULT OF THE DRIVER OF THE BIKE), gets hit by a car and dies. The motorcycle rider turns around and goes back to her, sees that she is dead, and takes off on his bike.
How would this be illegal? He didnt make her fall off the bike and he didn't really know her.
Don't read into the question and imply that he did something. I UNDERSTAND that the police would want him for questioning or what not, but could he be charged AND convicted of anything.
The consensus here is, he could be charged with leaving the scene of an accident. I'm not sure I agree with that though. She just fell off without him doing anything wrong.
Would it be the same if someone jumped/fell out of your AUTOMOBILE?
At first blush it would seem to, but hey, you just caught them speeding, right?
I got the impression that he was overreacting to the fact that I had a gun, so I commented that it's not the people with permits that he should be worried about. He replied that guns made him nervous.
He returned the gun to me after he processed the paperwork from the accident. I don't know what SC standard procedure is, but it seemed to me that he just didn't like the idea that citizens could be armed.
What are other people's experiences with being stopped while carrying concealed? For law enforcement officers, does your agency have a specific policy for dealing with this, or do you have some discretion in the matter? How would you have handled this situation (assuming the person you pulled over is a stranger)?
"Strength is the outcome of need; security sets a premium on feebleness." -- H.G. Wells (The Time Machine)
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Background: Off duty Cincinnati Police Office used taser on 11 year old shoplifting from grocery store.
https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/police-officer-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-stealing-from-kroger
According to the stories, she was arrested and charged with theft and obstructing official business.
The second charge is myl question. What Obstruction of Official Business would she be guilty of?
The LEO was off duty and working a side job if I read the stories correctly. Do LEOs get to perform part time security duties in city/county uniform in many places which would then warrant the obstruction charge?
She was wrong for stealing, just not sure it rose to the level of taser deployment.
About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
Here, I thought Alabama was a freedom loving state. Why in the hell do you allow random "insurance and license checks" without any casue?
I see it as no different from "papers please comrade!"........
We have DUI checkpoints up here....and I think they should be iilegal too, but NO WAY are you allowed to be pulled over just to be "checked out".
I'm a Aries but it sounds like your screwed
I talked to my lawyer shooting buddy and he told me which Judge to talk to .
He says as long as I have the receipt and can proove it has not been cashed I should be able to fix it .
My worry is time and frustration .
quote:Originally posted by trapguy2007
About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
Here, I thought Alabama was a freedom loving state. Why in the hell do you allow random "insurance and license checks" without any casue?
I see it as no different from "papers please comrade!"........
We have DUI checkpoints up here....and I think they should be iilegal too, but NO WAY are you allowed to be pulled over just to be "checked out".
The name of the game in Jefferson County is revenue enhancement .
They are on the verge of bankruptcy and every penny counts .
Why in the hell do you allow random "insurance and license checks" without any casue?
Because casue is really messy! Don
quote:Originally posted by LaidbackDan
I'm a Aries but it sounds like your screwed
I talked to my lawyer shooting buddy and he told me which Judge to talk to .
He says as long as I have the receipt and can proove it has not been cashed I should be able to fix it .
My worry is time and frustration .
Let your lawyer buddy handle it.
I neve could understand why people handle legal matters via the USPS. If you handle it in person you will not have any surprises. Now this is going to cost you a few hundred.
Maybe they should do away with the option of mailing anything to a government agency .
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Said one who is absolutely ignorant of the way money is handled by law enforcement agencies and courts.
Personal checks rule!
But, Cash is king!?
Cash is king, but it isn't smart to send it in the mail. My personal check is as good as cash, anyway.
I must agree.
Cash is king, but it isn't smart to send it in the mail. My personal check is as good as cash, anyway.
Some municipalities won't accept personal checks. My stepson got a speeding ticket and it said "Money Order ONLY" if paying by mail.
If I add a handgun to my permit, my Sheriff's office will only take a money order for a lousy $3.00! No checks or cash allowed.
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Cash is king, but it isn't smart to send it in the mail. My personal check is as good as cash, anyway.
Some municipalities won't accept personal checks. My stepson got a speeding ticket and it said "Money Order ONLY" if paying by mail.
If I add a handgun to my permit, my Sheriff's office will only take a money order for a lousy $3.00! No checks or cash allowed.
we all know, New Yorkers can't be trusted spidey...............
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Cash is king, but it isn't smart to send it in the mail. My personal check is as good as cash, anyway.
Some municipalities won't accept personal checks. My stepson got a speeding ticket and it said "Money Order ONLY" if paying by mail.
If I add a handgun to my permit, my Sheriff's office will only take a money order for a lousy $3.00! No checks or cash allowed.
we all know, New Yorkers can't be trusted spidey...............
I was in a bar once and asked the bar maid if I could cash a personal check for $20. She said yes but there was a $25 returned check fee. I said "OK, I'll make it out for $45 then." [:D]
quote:They like fines to be paid in "cash" that way as it moves along the proscess of going from one department of government to another it will have a chance to disappear by some employee with sticky fingures
Said one who is absolutely ignorant of the way money is handled by law enforcement agencies and courts.
The general rule that fines are cash/money order only is a no-brainer approach.
Research shows that a higher than normal percentage of people making payments to court clerks are known criminals. [:D]
quote:Originally posted by LaidbackDan
I'm a Aries but it sounds like your screwed
I talked to my lawyer shooting buddy and he told me which Judge to talk to .
He says as long as I have the receipt and can proove it has not been cashed I should be able to fix it .
My worry is time and frustration .
Your worry: Time and frustration. These are the things which you will need the most. Start with the clerk of the court.
In most (free) states, a road block for Insurance and registration would be illegal. Even in the Kommie Kalif. those are illegal.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
quote:They like fines to be paid in "cash" that way as it moves along the proscess of going from one department of government to another it will have a chance to disappear by some employee with sticky fingures
Said one who is absolutely ignorant of the way money is handled by law enforcement agencies and courts.
Mr. Nunn, Each government agency has their on way of handling funds, was not insinuating LEO's but I know personally of 2 city clerks and 1 Mayor who have served time for such (policy has since been changed), I was on the commission at the time of this sizable city when this scandel happened, so your definition of me and my "ignorance" is incorrect sir [V] "absolutley ignorant" is a term one should use thought in before using [;)]. Quess I'll be banned now from GB's so, Bye y'all !
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
quote:Originally posted by nunn
quote:They like fines to be paid in "cash" that way as it moves along the proscess of going from one department of government to another it will have a chance to disappear by some employee with sticky fingures
Said one who is absolutely ignorant of the way money is handled by law enforcement agencies and courts.
Mr. Nunn, Each government agency has their on way of handling funds, was not insinuating LEO's but I know personally of 2 city clerks and 1 Mayor who have served time for such (policy has since been changed), I was on the commission at the time of this sizable city when this scandel happened, so your definition of me and my "ignorance" is incorrect sir [V] "absolutley ignorant" is a term one should use thought in before using [;)]. Quess I'll be banned now from GB's so, Bye y'all !
Why would you be banned now? due to the fact that you disagree? Buckle down man!
5 minutes at the Criminal Justice building .
1 1/2 hours at the DMV ( 1 hour 20 minutes sitting ,10 minutes getting things resolved).
As I thought : they only want the MONEY ![;)]
That is as it should be. Dishonest people need to be removed from positions of trust and punished. I have been with my PD for 31 years. In all that time, there was ONE officer who got sticky fingers, and he lost his job. There is no way he was ever going to be hired by another PD, so a promising career went down the toilet over a $20 theft.
Your implication seemed to be that sticky fingers are rampant in government offices where money is handled, and that is not the case. There are laws, and procedures, and there is oversight and accountability. The way the system is set up, it is very difficult if not impossible for an employee to steal undetected. And, when theft is detected, it is usually dealt with swifty, and decisively, as it should be.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by trapguy2007
About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
Here, I thought Alabama was a freedom loving state. Why in the hell do you allow random "insurance and license checks" without any casue?
I see it as no different from "papers please comrade!"........
We have DUI checkpoints up here....and I think they should be iilegal too, but NO WAY are you allowed to be pulled over just to be "checked out".
The name of the game in Jefferson County is revenue enhancement .
They are on the verge of bankruptcy and every penny counts .
Are you saying LEO's would do something as as this????????[:0][:0][:0]