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The Queen

mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
edited January 2017 in General Discussion
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Think this is fake cause I just cannot see here saying the last part.

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  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why is Trump talking to an underling of the Queen, instead of the Queen?

    Doesn't this little get together put Trump on the same plane as the Prime Minister, (under the queen)
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    the queen has no political power, the prime minister does
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Queen is a figure head that keeps the tourist dollars flowing in GB...other than that she does basically nothing overall for the country.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So what does the queen rule over then?

    Trump rules over our states, then governors run each state. Isn't a prime minister under the queen like a governor is under Trump?
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Teaquote:Originally posted by mag00
    So what does the queen rule over then?

    Trump rules over our states, then governors run each state. Isn't a prime minister under the queen like a governor is under Trump?
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,491 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by William81
    The Queen is a figure head that keeps the tourist dollars flowing in GB...other than that she does basically nothing overall for the country.


    GunBroker has ties with the Queen?
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Magoo- the PM does not work for the Queen. The PM is the British equivalent of the President.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Magoo- the PM does not work for the Queen. The PM is the British equivalent of the President.


    So I wonder why the reference in the press conference, and why even have a queen?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Magoo- the PM does not work for the Queen. The PM is the British equivalent of the President.


    So I wonder why the reference in the press conference, and why even have a queen?



    William answered most of it, and there is a very large property owning still held by the monarch
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Queen and Royal family are pets maintained by British taxpayers who give millions each year for the joy of watching them continue the illusion that once their rulers were of divine origin and superior being. Kind of like our University Professors and Hollyweird celebrities feel about themselves in our country.
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The British monarch is largely a figure head but still has some limited power actually.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess what I am gleaning from this is that the visit with the Queen is about as important as a visit with Opra? Basically a public relations media stunt of no consequence.
  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought Charles was the Queen ?

    Sir Elton John.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mag00,

    I don't think most folks grasp the importance of the Queen Elizabeth II. Here is a statement from one of the British Senior Tory leaders:

    "President Trump is set to be invited by the Queen to a state visit to Britain, expected to be this Spring, with Mr Rees-Mogg insisting there should be no doubt about the controversial businessman receiving full VIP treatment in the UK.

    He said: "There are no second-tier state visits. If you come on a state visit you go for a ride in a carriage with the Queen, you get invited to a state dinner, you get to stay in Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle and the protective guard turns out to be inspected by you.

    "You either come on a state visit or you don't so of course our closest ally should be treated in the most honoured way."

    Of course our closest ally should be treated in the most honoured way.

    The senior Tory described the Queen as "unquestionably" Britain's "secret weapon in foreign affairs".

    He said: "She's been there so long. The Queen is the most distinguished individual in the world.

    "The only competition is from the Holy Father but those two are on a different level from everybody else.

    "Therefore heads of state even of the most powerful countries such as China and the United States want to meet and get to know the Queen."

    Best.
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trump is meeting with the head of England or Great Britten.

    The Queen is more like a figurehead. The Royal family are more like Ex presidents to our nation. Interesting news items. However mostly irrelevant.
    "What is truth?'
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nononsense
    mag00,

    I don't think most folks grasp the importance of the Queen Elizabeth II. Here is a statement from one of the British Senior Tory leaders:

    "President Trump is set to be invited by the Queen to a state visit to Britain, expected to be this Spring, with Mr Rees-Mogg insisting there should be no doubt about the controversial businessman receiving full VIP treatment in the UK.

    He said: "There are no second-tier state visits. If you come on a state visit you go for a ride in a carriage with the Queen, you get invited to a state dinner, you get to stay in Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle and the protective guard turns out to be inspected by you.

    "You either come on a state visit or you don't so of course our closest ally should be treated in the most honoured way."

    Of course our closest ally should be treated in the most honoured way.

    The senior Tory described the Queen as "unquestionably" Britain's "secret weapon in foreign affairs".

    He said: "She's been there so long. The Queen is the most distinguished individual in the world.

    "The only competition is from the Holy Father but those two are on a different level from everybody else.

    "Therefore heads of state even of the most powerful countries such as China and the United States want to meet and get to know the Queen."

    Best.




    Thanks for this.

    The Crown eludes me in how it all works. Australia and Canada seem to be countries of their own, yet answer to the crown. Are we embarking on a similar thing and would it be bad?

    I saw the press conference as Trump and PM equals, and the Queen being the big dog, not USA.

    But the United Kingdom and United States, may have far more in common?

    Alex Jones talks about NWO and Globalists. I am not a fan of Alex, but there is some truth to him. Does this meeting with the Queen have any bearing on globalism or rejoining the Crown?

    And since you brought it up, but on another subject, do you think Donald can repair the hate that was created with the Pope?
  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mag
    I do not think we have to worry about rejoining the crown. The US is a sovereign nation and I do not see that changing short of us being invaded and occupied.

    Trump meeting with the Queen is symbolic and part of the dog and pony show that is global politics. Great Britain has been our closest ally for well over 100 years and it is important that a new leader meet with not only the Queen and family, but with the PM and the other Ministers to reassure that our friendship is still important and stable.

    I fully expect Trump to make similar visits to Germany, Japan and the Vatican City to meet the Pope (while not a nation in the way we view Germany, England, etc, the Pope is important as we have millions of Catholics in the US). Its good and smart politics.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the Queen is head of the House of Lords!
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    Why is Trump talking to an underling of the Queen, instead of the Queen?

    Doesn't this little get together put Trump on the same plane as the Prime Minister, (under the queen)


    Dude! Just how big is that rock you've been under?
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    I guess what I am gleaning from this is that the visit with the Queen is about as important as a visit with Opra? Basically a public relations media stunt of no consequence.


    Not really, the Queen doesn't meet with just anyone. She does carry some weight and is a great ambassador when needed. Then there is the Pomp and Circumstance that goes along with a visit to or from the queen. Traditional matters of state do still matter.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,306 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    so like the old movies and history 'remove' the queen and family and declare your the new king . seemed to work in the past [:D][:D]

    I seem to remember years ago the royal family has huge land owning's and income from said lands and also get a welfare payments I mean salary from the government from the taxes
    tradition lives on in many places .
    "long live the queen "[^]
    which she seem to take to heart [:D]

    I also seen some program about there day is full of the prompt and circumstance lots of rules and procedures to follow not a lot of personal time
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I looked into it a bit more, and the way I see it, is the Queen is the top of the Common Wealth.

    Trump is the Top of the United States.

    The British Prime Minister Theresa May, and Trump spoke today. That to me would be like Trump talking to any governor of the USA.

    I do not see all the hoopla over speaking with a governor or prime minister.

    If Trump speaks with Putin, he is talking to the top dog

    If Trump talks to Kim Jong-un, he is speaking to the top dog.

    British Prime Minister Theresa May can be fired by the Queen. Elizabeth II, correct?

    Australia reports to the Queen. Australia then must be a province, like Hawaii is a state to the USA.

    Is Trump considering rejoining the Crown in some capacity? He (or media coverage) is acting like the PM's are the leader of the Commonwealth, when it is the Queen who we need to be dealing with.

    I guess the Pope would be the comparison to Opra then. Neither of which have any official capacity, but carry significant social input.
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