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urban sight range

EMCSEMCS Member Posts: 4,063
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
What would be the best distant to sight a rifle at for urban combat , most likely under 100 yard's ?
Using a Multi reticle Reflex Sight Compact and a 3x9x40 scope

Rifles 223 , 7.62x39 , 9mm . 308

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  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    125 yds. for all calibers listed.
  • EMCSEMCS Member Posts: 4,063
    edited November -1
    gunnut505
    Thank You


    308 Here is my thinking so far and as steady as I hold a rifle/pistol now days going mostly for body shots ......

    223 Ruger Mini-14 Rifle converted bullpup Using a Multi reticle Reflex Sight I will most likely set this at the sight in dead on at 50. Makes you about .5" high at 100 dead on at 150 and 2" low at 200.

    223 Ruger Mini-14 Rifle converted Strikeforce Package with tripod I will most likely set this at the 250 yard mark, and will aim at the mouth of a target using a 3x9x40 scope and I may be able to make head shots out to 300 yards, while never being over or under 4 inches.

    Is the Ruger Mini-14 Rifle converted Strikeforce Package capable of this??

    7.62x39 AK-47 WASR-10 Rifle converted from single stack 10rds to take double stack mags..
    Not sure on this one thinking of converting it to a Bullpup also [ as soon as funds are available late 2009 ] has a 4x scope on it now
    Suggestions/ideas??

    SAIGA 308 16" AK-47 style with tripod I will most likely set this at the 250 yard mark, and I will aim at the mouth of a target using a 3x9x50 scope and I may be able to make head shots out to 300 yards, while never being over or under 4 inches.

    Marlin model 9 9mm carbine converted to a Bullpup using a Using a Multi reticle Reflex Sight Compact I will most likely set this at about .5" high at 25. Makes you dead on at 50 about 3" low at 75 and just about 8" low at 100.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Well, before the fantasy overcomes us all, I just need to adjust your sights back to 125 yds. because in an urban scenario, and with the calibers you chose;
    There will probably not be head shots from many Mini-14s or WASRs past 150yds, and if you need to make that shot you are in it deep.
    Reflex multi-or not, you're not going to reach the full potential of your Camp Carbine with such a short sight-in. Use 124gr bullets.
    A 3-9X scope might be a bit restrictive, peripheral-vision-wise for an urban combat environ as well; might want to stick with a fixed 4-6X
    with an illuminated reticle.

    BTW-have you got someone to haul all that stuff with you when the building catches fire? Who's covering the retreat?
  • EMCSEMCS Member Posts: 4,063
    edited November -1
    gunnut505

    "fantasy" overcomes us all , that is the truth ..[:D][:D]

    I know you have a reason for the 125 yds. , would you mind sharing ?

    Most of my information came from other sites..

    If you think my Freedom is worth your life , feel free to try and take it..
    USCG Ret.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Well, the thinking behind the 125yd sight-in is because you won't have time to make adjustments later, and it's difficult to use a multi-reticle anything past that range accurately.
    A red dot serves as an example; if set for 125yds, the top of the dot is good to about 150 and the bottom of the dot is good for almost anything shorter. Extra crap in your line-of-sight (like extra reticles, confusing dots, etc.) will serve only to slow your shot and ruin your aim. Likewise, anything that's in there (like your target) can get "lost" while you try to line everything up. With a red dot; just point & shoot out to 125.
    I've got red dots on all my "SHTF" guns, and a supply of watch batteries in film canisters taped to the slings. Even one of my 300's has a dot and it's sighted in for just under 300yds.
    Granted, if there's a target out there attempting to "service" your position from 300yds; you'll need either one well-aimed shot, or a series of "punches" to stir the target from its' hidey hole.
    The best way to "win" in an urban scenario is to be on the outside, looking in.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd zero in at 25 yards and wouldn't expect to take shots over 100 yds. your Ruger .223 is the only thing listed with any real reach and since you specify urban, I don't think you would need much range anyway. My advice; dump everything but the Wasr-10 or the Saiga and get a Short barreled shotgun to back that up.
  • BlairweescotBlairweescot Member Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm in a city and I damn sure can't see 125 yds in any direction
  • MFinnMFinn Member Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Blairweescot
    I'm in a city and I damn sure can't see 125 yds in any direction


    Up?? [:)]
  • BlairweescotBlairweescot Member Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MFinn
    quote:Originally posted by Blairweescot
    I'm in a city and I damn sure can't see 125 yds in any direction


    Up?? [:)]


    If I was to do that, the black helicopters might know that I know that they know that I know
  • EMCSEMCS Member Posts: 4,063
    edited November -1
    gunnut505
    Thanks for your expertise and insight most helpful..

    mrseatle
    my thinking of the guns , the way I have them set up
    223 Ruger Mini-14 Rifle use's US Military/NATO Ammo , and is readily available , small in size..
    7.62x39 AK-47 use's what used to be a cheaper ammo and is readily available
    SAIGA 308 16" a little better for longer distant use's US Military/NATO Ammo may sell or trade it for a longer barrel one..
    Marlin model 9 9mm carbine use's US Military/NATO Ammo and completes my XD9 pistol/rifle using the same ammo , small in size.....
    Yes I do have a riot 12gage loaded with 12 GA. "Rhodesian Jungle" and 12 GA. Armor Piercing..
    In My Opinion the SHTF a long time ago with gangs and individuals who do not give a damn about others , be it Their Rights , Property or Lives..
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