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Wilderness area Closed to the Public.

grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
edited September 2018 in General Discussion
quote:The U.S. Forest Service has closed a vast swath of the Oregon wilderness to the public as authorities search rugged terrain for a cougar that killed a hiker.

KGW-TV reported Thursday that nearly 47 square miles and 14 trails in the Hunchback Mountain area could remain closed for at least 30 days.

There was no sign of the cougar in the first full day of searching Thursday.

Diana Bober is the first person known to have been killed by a cougar in the wild in Oregon, and the second in the Pacific Northwest this year.

The 55-year-old avid hiker from Gresham was reported missing on Sept. 7.

Bober's sister says she had defensive wounds and fought the cougar with a stick, repellant and a sharp object.


http://www.kezi.com/content/news/Feds-close-off-wilderness-after-cougar-kills-Oregon-hiker-493206871.html

Think Yellowstone is next You know that place is dangerous to idiots.

Comments

  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the hiker has already been penalized ....leave the cougar ALONE...the WHOLE US GOVT cannot protect careless or stupid people ......only ELECT them
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So I guess they intend to hunt the Cat down and kill it.

    What a shame[V]

    I kind of hope it gets away.
    RLTW

  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.


    Yep but how many will they kill or are they going to dart them check the DNA and release it if it is not the one?


    They should leave it alone. Its a wilderness area, warn hikers to be careful and prepared(bear spray, gun, rape whistle whatever).

    If there are too many in the area either allow hunting or relocate them.
    RLTW

  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.


    No worry, they will check DNA and keep after him/her until they catch the right cougar, a DNA test costs $300 to $500. Expensive but no problem to get the right cougar,, different thinking in Chitago when determining paternity, no telling how many males they'd need to test before they got the right one, Ten tests, $5000.00, chitago obviously can't afford DNA testing, but wild cougars, no problem.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.


    Yep but how many will they kill or are they going to dart them check the DNA and release it if it is not the one?


    They should leave it alone. Its a wilderness area, warn hikers to be careful and prepared(bear spray, gun, rape whistle whatever).

    If there are too many in the area either allow hunting or relocate them.


    They plan to kill, they say the area is too rough to trap them. And to dart they have to get close and none of these idiots can do that.
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.


    Yep but how many will they kill or are they going to dart them check the DNA and release it if it is not the one?


    They should leave it alone. Its a wilderness area, warn hikers to be careful and prepared(bear spray, gun, rape whistle whatever).

    If there are too many in the area either allow hunting or relocate them.


    the problem with that is that a cougar does not attack you from the front, they are ambush hunters. You won't know that one is within a hundred miles of you until it has jumped on your back, sinks its claws into your back and shoulders and sinks his teeth into your neck. By that time it will be all over and there will be nothing you can do to stop it...

    In cougar country, the only defense is to keep a watchful eye all around you, not only in front but also to your sides, behind you, above you in the trees, in the grass and bushes....
  • Hunter MagHunter Mag Member Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just goes to show you the totalitarian government is not only rabid with controlling our life and mother nature it cannot control itself to control wildlife either.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Adult male cougars roam widely, covering a home range of 50 to 150 square miles, depending on the age of the cougar, the time of year, type of terrain, and availability of prey.

    Their chances of finding the right one are really slim.


    Yep but how many will they kill or are they going to dart them check the DNA and release it if it is not the one?


    They should leave it alone. Its a wilderness area, warn hikers to be careful and prepared(bear spray, gun, rape whistle whatever).

    If there are too many in the area either allow hunting or relocate them.


    the problem with that is that a cougar does not attack you from the front, they are ambush hunters. You won't know that one is within a hundred miles of you until it has jumped on your back, sinks its claws into your back and shoulders and sinks his teeth into your neck. By that time it will be all over and there will be nothing you can do to stop it...

    In cougar country, the only defense is to keep a watchful eye all around you, not only in front but also to your sides, behind you, above you in the trees, in the grass and bushes....



    In over 50 years being in the woods I have seen one and that one was behind us stalking us.

    I have seen plenty of sigh even had their track in my tracks in the snow. Snow got to deep and I had to follow my tracks out to get out.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The same people that signed this cats (possibly many cats) death warrant are the same ones throwing a fit over killing wolves.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    The same people that signed this cats (possibly many cats) death warrant are the same ones throwing a fit over killing wolves.
    [:D]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    The same people that signed this cats (possibly many cats) death warrant are the same ones throwing a fit over killing wolves.
    [:D]


    Yep, just wait till a wolf eats someone. Or a cat does it and a wolf gets blamed.[8D]
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,065 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm hoping the biologist is like "Quint". "Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this cougar for you, but it ain't gonna be easy.". But I think dude will be more Ranger Rick Who Tokes A lot.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "But it's Nature! We LOVE Nature!"

    Listen, snowflake, you wanted an all-natural eco-system, and then you wanted to wander around in it. This is what you get. Meaning, you get "et". It is not Disneyland out there, snowflake.

    I took a winter walk a few years ago. Coming back, not 200 yards from my house, there was a three-inch diameter cougar track atop my outbound footprint. That's a damn big cat. I walked the rest of the way home backward, watching every damn twig behind me. AND had my Ruger .357 in hand. Gave up up winter walks in cougar country.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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