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thebambam2001
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There has been several threads of late relative to dogs, some of putting down a friend, some on getting another dog plus other items on dogs. Obviously there is strong emotions and attachments (for the dogs also) to them
This is a long thread of three different stories/items I have saved. Sorry I didn't save the source, some or possibly all have been previously posted on GB, if someone is the original poster I'm not trying to step on your toes and have no intention of pissing you off. I was taken by each one and simply saved them, my thought at this time is it has been several months since posted and to share them with whomever cares to read or reread one or two or all of them or none of them
Subject: [SCDRAlumni] I Rescued A Human Today (A dog's perspective)
I rescued a human today.
Her eyes met mine as she walked down the corridor peering apprehensively into the kennels.
I felt her need instantly and knew I had to help her.
I wagged my tail, not too exuberantly, so she wouldn't be afraid.
As she stopped at my kennel I blocked her view from a little accident I had in the back of my cage.
I didn't want her to know that I hadn't been walked today.
Sometimes the shelter keepers get too busy and I didn't want her to think poorly of them.
As she read my kennel card I hoped that she wouldn't feel sad about my past.
I only have the future to look forward to and want to make a difference in someone's life.
She got down on her knees and made little kissy sounds at me.
I shoved my shoulder and side of my head up against the bars to comfort her.
Gentle fingertips caressed my neck; she was desperate for companionship.
A tear fell down her cheek and I raised my paw to assure her that all would be well.
Soon my kennel door opened and her smile was so bright that I instan tly jumped into her arms.
I would promise to keep her safe.
I would promise to always be by her side.
I would promise to do everything I could to see that radiant smile and sparkle in her eyes.
I was so fortunate that she came down my corridor.
So many more are out there who haven't walked the corridors.
So many more to be saved.
At least I could save one.
I rescued a human today.
Subject: [SCDRAlumni] From Your Dog
A man in Grand Rapids, Michigan incredibly took out a $7000 full page ad in the paper to present the following essay to the people of his community.
HOW COULD YOU? - By Jim Willis, 2001
When I was a puppy, I entertained you with my antics and made you laugh. You called me your child, and despite a number of chewed shoes and a couple of murdered throw pillows, I became your best friend. Whenever I was "bad," you'd shake your finger at me and ask "How could you?" -- but then you'd relent and roll me over for a belly rub.
My housebreaking took a little longer than expected, because you were terribly busy, but we worked on that together. I remember those nights of nuzzling you in bed and listening to your confidences and secret dreams, and I believed that life could not be any more perfect. We went for long walks and runs in the park, car rides, stops for ice cream (I only got the cone because "ice cream is bad for dogs" you said), and I took long naps in the sun waiting for you to come home at the end of the day.
Gradually, you began spending more time at work and on your career, and more time searching for a human mate. I waited for you patiently, comforted you through heartbreaks and disappointments, never chided you about bad decisions, and romped with glee at your homecomings, and when you fell in love. She, now your wife, is not a "dog person" - - still I welcomed her into our home, tried to show her affection, and obeyed her. I was happy because you were happy.
Then the human babies came along and I shared your excitement. I was fascinated by their pinkness, how they smelled, and I wanted to mother them, too. Only she and you worried that I might hurt them, and I spent most of my time banished to another room, or to a dog crate. Oh, how I wanted to love them, but I became a "prisoner of love." As they began to grow, I became their friend. They clung to my fur and pulled themselves up on wobbly legs, poked fingers in my eyes, investigated my ears, and gave me kisses on my nose. I loved everything about them and their touch -- because your touch was now so infrequent -- and I would've defended them with my life if need be. I would sneak into their beds and listen to their worries and secret dreams, and together we waited for the sound of your car in the driveway.
There had been a time, when others asked you if you had a dog, that you produced a photo of me from your wallet and told them stories about me. These past few years, you just answered "yes" and changed the subject. I had gone from being "your dog" to "just a dog ," and you resented every expenditure on my behalf.
Now, you have a new career opportunity in another city, and you and they will be moving to an apartment that does not allow pets. You've made the right decision for your "family," but there was a time when I was your only family
I was excited about the car ride until we arrived at the animal shelter. It smelled of dogs and cats, of fear, of hopelessness. You filled out the paperwork and said "I know you will find a good home for her." They shrugged and gave you a pained look. They understand the realities facing a middle-aged dog, even one with "papers." You had to pry your son's fingers loose from my collar as he screamed "No, Daddy! Please don't let them take my dog!" And I worried for him, and what lessons you had just taught him about friendship and loyalty, about love and responsibility, and about respect for all life. You gave me a good-bye pat on the head, avoided my eyes, and politely refused to take my collar and leash with you. You had a deadline to meet and now I have one, too. After you left, the two nice ladies said you probably knew about your upcoming move months ago and made no attempt to find me another good home. They shook their heads and asked, "How could you?"
They are as attentive to us here in the shelter as their busy schedules allow. They feed us, of course, but I lost my appetite days ago. At first, whenever anyone passed my pen, I rushed to the front, hoping it was you that you had changed your mind -- that this was all a bad dream... or I hoped it would at least be someone who cared, anyone who might save me.
When I realized I could not compete with the frolicking for attention of happy puppies, oblivious to their own fate, I retreated to a far corner and waited. I heard her footsteps as she came for me at the end of the day, and I padded along the aisle after her to a separate room. A blissfully quiet room. She placed me on the table and rubbed my ears, and told me not to worry. My heart pounded in anticipation of what was to come, but there was also a sense of relief. The prisoner of love had run out of days.
As is my nature, I was more concerned about her. The burden which she bears weighs heavily on her, and I know that, the same way I knew your every mood. She gently placed a tourniquet around my foreleg as a tear ran down her cheek. I licked her hand in the same way I used to comfort you so many years ago. She expertly slid the hypodermic needle into my vein. As I felt the sting and the cool liquid coursing through my body, I lay down sleepily, looked into her kind eyes and murmured, "How could you?"
Perhaps because she understood my dog speak, she said, "I'm so sorry." She hugged me, and hurriedly explained it was her job to make sure I went to a better place, where I wouldn't be ignored or abused or abandoned, or have to fend for myself -- a place of love and light so very different from this earthly place. And with my last bit of energy, I tried to convey to her with a thump of my tail that my "How could you?" was not directed at her. It was directed at you, My Beloved Master, I was thinking of you. I will think of you and wait for you forever. May everyone in your life continue to show you so much loyalty.
A Note from the Author: If "How Could You?" brought tears to your eyes as you read it, as it did to mine as I wrote it, it is because it is the composite story of the millions of formerly "owned" pets who die each year in American & Canadian animal shelters. Please use this to help educate, on your websites, in newsletters, on animal shelter and vet office bulletin boards. Tell the public that the decision to add a pet to the family is an important one for life, that animals deserve our love and sensible care, that finding another appropriate home for your animal is your responsibility and any local humane society or animal welfare league can offer you good advice, and that all life is precious. Please do your part to stop the killing, and encourage all spay & neuter campaigns in order to prevent unwanted animals.
Please pass this on to everyone, not to hurt them or make them sad, but it could save maybe, even one, unwanted pet.. Remember...They love UNCONDITIONALLY.
Now that the tears are rolling down your face, pass it on! Send to everyone in your address book and around the world! This IS the reality of dogs given up to shelters!
a letter from a shelter manager
________________________________________
Date: 2008-12-16, 9:27PM CST
A Letter from a Shelter Manager
I think our society needs a huge "Wake-up" call. As a shelter manager, I am going to share a little insight with you all...a view from the inside if you will.
First off, all of you breeders/sellers should be made to work in the "back" of an animal shelter for just one day. Maybe if you saw the life drain from a few sad, lost, confused eyes, you would change your mind about breeding and selling to people you don't even know.
That puppy you just sold will most likely end up in my shelter when it's not a cute little puppy anymore. So how would you feel if you knew that there's about a 90% chance that dog will never walk out of the shelter it is going to be dumped at? Purebred or not! About 50% of all of the dogs that are "owner surrenders" or "strays", that come into my shelter are purebred dogs.
The most common excuses I hear are; "We are moving and we can't take our dog (or cat)." Really? Where are you moving too that doesn't allow pets? Or they say "The dog got bigger than we thought it would". How big did you think a German Shepherd would get? "We don't have time for her". Really? I work a 10-12 hour day and still have time for my 6 dogs! "She's tearing up our yard". How about making her a part of your family? They always tell me "We just don't want to have to stress about finding a place for her we know she'll get adopted, she's a good dog".
Odds are your pet won't get adopted & how stressful do you think being in a shelter is? Well, let me tell you, your pet has 72 hours to find a new family from the moment you drop it off. Sometimes a little longer if the shelter isn't full and your dog manages to stay completely healthy. If it sniffles, it dies. Your pet will be confined to a small run/kennel in a room with about 25 other barking or crying animals. It will have to relieve itself where it eats and sleeps. It will be depressed and it will cry constantly for the family that abandoned it. If your pet is lucky, I will have enough volunteers in that day to take him/her for a walk. If I don't, your pet won't get any attention besides having a bowl of food slid under the kennel door and the waste sprayed out of its pen with a high-powered hose. If your dog is big, black or any of the "Bully" breeds (pit bull, rottie, mastiff, etc) it was pretty much dead when you walked it through the front door.
Those dogs just don't get adopted. It doesn't matter how 'sweet' or 'well behaved' they are.
If your dog doesn't get adopted within its 72 hours and the shelter is full, it will be destroyed. If the shelter isn't full and your dog is good enough, and of a desirable enough breed it may get a stay of execution, but not for long . Most dogs get very kennel protective after about a week and are destroyed for showing aggression. Even the sweetest dogs will turn in this environment. If your pet makes it over all of those hurdles chances are it will get kennel cough or an upper respiratory infection and will be destroyed because shelters just don't have the funds to pay for even a $100 treatment.
Here's a little euthanasia 101 for those of you that have never witnessed a perfectly healthy, scared animal being "put-down".
First, your pet will be taken from its kennel on a leash. They always look like they think they are going for a walk happy, wagging their tails. Until they get to "The Room", every one of them freaks out and puts on the brakes when we get to the door. It must smell like death or they can feel the sad souls that are left in there, it's strange, but it happens with every one of them. Your dog or cat will be restrained, held down by 1 or 2 vet techs depending on the size and how freaked out they are. Then a euthanasia tech or a vet will start the process. They will find a vein in the front leg and inject a lethal dose of the "pink stuff". Hopefully your pet doesn't panic from being restrained and jerk. I've seen the needles tear out of a leg and been covered with the resulting blood and been deafened by the yelps and screams. They all don't just "go to sleep", sometimes they spasm for a while, gasp for air and defecate on themselves.
When it all ends, your pets corpse will be stacked like firewood in a large freezer in the back with all of the other animals that were killed waiting to be picked up like garbage. What happens next? Cremated? Taken to the dump? Rendered into pet food? You'll never know and it probably won't even cross your mind. It was just an animal and you can always buy another one, right?
I hope that those of you that have read this are bawling your eyes out and can't get the pictures out of your head I deal with everyday on the way home from work.
I hate my job, I hate that it exists & I hate that it will always be there unless you people make some changes and realize that the lives you are affecting go much farther than the pets you dump at a shelter.
Between 9 and 11 MILLION animals die every year in shelters and only you can stop it. I do my best to save every life I can but rescues are always full, and there are more animals coming in everyday than there are homes.
My point to all of this DON'T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER PETS DIE!
Hate me if you want to. The truth hurts and reality is what it is. I just hope I maybe changed one persons mind about breeding their dog, taking their loving pet to a shelter, or buying a dog. I hope that someone will walk into my shelter and say "I saw this and it made me want to adopt". THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORTH IT
This is a long thread of three different stories/items I have saved. Sorry I didn't save the source, some or possibly all have been previously posted on GB, if someone is the original poster I'm not trying to step on your toes and have no intention of pissing you off. I was taken by each one and simply saved them, my thought at this time is it has been several months since posted and to share them with whomever cares to read or reread one or two or all of them or none of them
Subject: [SCDRAlumni] I Rescued A Human Today (A dog's perspective)
I rescued a human today.
Her eyes met mine as she walked down the corridor peering apprehensively into the kennels.
I felt her need instantly and knew I had to help her.
I wagged my tail, not too exuberantly, so she wouldn't be afraid.
As she stopped at my kennel I blocked her view from a little accident I had in the back of my cage.
I didn't want her to know that I hadn't been walked today.
Sometimes the shelter keepers get too busy and I didn't want her to think poorly of them.
As she read my kennel card I hoped that she wouldn't feel sad about my past.
I only have the future to look forward to and want to make a difference in someone's life.
She got down on her knees and made little kissy sounds at me.
I shoved my shoulder and side of my head up against the bars to comfort her.
Gentle fingertips caressed my neck; she was desperate for companionship.
A tear fell down her cheek and I raised my paw to assure her that all would be well.
Soon my kennel door opened and her smile was so bright that I instan tly jumped into her arms.
I would promise to keep her safe.
I would promise to always be by her side.
I would promise to do everything I could to see that radiant smile and sparkle in her eyes.
I was so fortunate that she came down my corridor.
So many more are out there who haven't walked the corridors.
So many more to be saved.
At least I could save one.
I rescued a human today.
Subject: [SCDRAlumni] From Your Dog
A man in Grand Rapids, Michigan incredibly took out a $7000 full page ad in the paper to present the following essay to the people of his community.
HOW COULD YOU? - By Jim Willis, 2001
When I was a puppy, I entertained you with my antics and made you laugh. You called me your child, and despite a number of chewed shoes and a couple of murdered throw pillows, I became your best friend. Whenever I was "bad," you'd shake your finger at me and ask "How could you?" -- but then you'd relent and roll me over for a belly rub.
My housebreaking took a little longer than expected, because you were terribly busy, but we worked on that together. I remember those nights of nuzzling you in bed and listening to your confidences and secret dreams, and I believed that life could not be any more perfect. We went for long walks and runs in the park, car rides, stops for ice cream (I only got the cone because "ice cream is bad for dogs" you said), and I took long naps in the sun waiting for you to come home at the end of the day.
Gradually, you began spending more time at work and on your career, and more time searching for a human mate. I waited for you patiently, comforted you through heartbreaks and disappointments, never chided you about bad decisions, and romped with glee at your homecomings, and when you fell in love. She, now your wife, is not a "dog person" - - still I welcomed her into our home, tried to show her affection, and obeyed her. I was happy because you were happy.
Then the human babies came along and I shared your excitement. I was fascinated by their pinkness, how they smelled, and I wanted to mother them, too. Only she and you worried that I might hurt them, and I spent most of my time banished to another room, or to a dog crate. Oh, how I wanted to love them, but I became a "prisoner of love." As they began to grow, I became their friend. They clung to my fur and pulled themselves up on wobbly legs, poked fingers in my eyes, investigated my ears, and gave me kisses on my nose. I loved everything about them and their touch -- because your touch was now so infrequent -- and I would've defended them with my life if need be. I would sneak into their beds and listen to their worries and secret dreams, and together we waited for the sound of your car in the driveway.
There had been a time, when others asked you if you had a dog, that you produced a photo of me from your wallet and told them stories about me. These past few years, you just answered "yes" and changed the subject. I had gone from being "your dog" to "just a dog ," and you resented every expenditure on my behalf.
Now, you have a new career opportunity in another city, and you and they will be moving to an apartment that does not allow pets. You've made the right decision for your "family," but there was a time when I was your only family
I was excited about the car ride until we arrived at the animal shelter. It smelled of dogs and cats, of fear, of hopelessness. You filled out the paperwork and said "I know you will find a good home for her." They shrugged and gave you a pained look. They understand the realities facing a middle-aged dog, even one with "papers." You had to pry your son's fingers loose from my collar as he screamed "No, Daddy! Please don't let them take my dog!" And I worried for him, and what lessons you had just taught him about friendship and loyalty, about love and responsibility, and about respect for all life. You gave me a good-bye pat on the head, avoided my eyes, and politely refused to take my collar and leash with you. You had a deadline to meet and now I have one, too. After you left, the two nice ladies said you probably knew about your upcoming move months ago and made no attempt to find me another good home. They shook their heads and asked, "How could you?"
They are as attentive to us here in the shelter as their busy schedules allow. They feed us, of course, but I lost my appetite days ago. At first, whenever anyone passed my pen, I rushed to the front, hoping it was you that you had changed your mind -- that this was all a bad dream... or I hoped it would at least be someone who cared, anyone who might save me.
When I realized I could not compete with the frolicking for attention of happy puppies, oblivious to their own fate, I retreated to a far corner and waited. I heard her footsteps as she came for me at the end of the day, and I padded along the aisle after her to a separate room. A blissfully quiet room. She placed me on the table and rubbed my ears, and told me not to worry. My heart pounded in anticipation of what was to come, but there was also a sense of relief. The prisoner of love had run out of days.
As is my nature, I was more concerned about her. The burden which she bears weighs heavily on her, and I know that, the same way I knew your every mood. She gently placed a tourniquet around my foreleg as a tear ran down her cheek. I licked her hand in the same way I used to comfort you so many years ago. She expertly slid the hypodermic needle into my vein. As I felt the sting and the cool liquid coursing through my body, I lay down sleepily, looked into her kind eyes and murmured, "How could you?"
Perhaps because she understood my dog speak, she said, "I'm so sorry." She hugged me, and hurriedly explained it was her job to make sure I went to a better place, where I wouldn't be ignored or abused or abandoned, or have to fend for myself -- a place of love and light so very different from this earthly place. And with my last bit of energy, I tried to convey to her with a thump of my tail that my "How could you?" was not directed at her. It was directed at you, My Beloved Master, I was thinking of you. I will think of you and wait for you forever. May everyone in your life continue to show you so much loyalty.
A Note from the Author: If "How Could You?" brought tears to your eyes as you read it, as it did to mine as I wrote it, it is because it is the composite story of the millions of formerly "owned" pets who die each year in American & Canadian animal shelters. Please use this to help educate, on your websites, in newsletters, on animal shelter and vet office bulletin boards. Tell the public that the decision to add a pet to the family is an important one for life, that animals deserve our love and sensible care, that finding another appropriate home for your animal is your responsibility and any local humane society or animal welfare league can offer you good advice, and that all life is precious. Please do your part to stop the killing, and encourage all spay & neuter campaigns in order to prevent unwanted animals.
Please pass this on to everyone, not to hurt them or make them sad, but it could save maybe, even one, unwanted pet.. Remember...They love UNCONDITIONALLY.
Now that the tears are rolling down your face, pass it on! Send to everyone in your address book and around the world! This IS the reality of dogs given up to shelters!
a letter from a shelter manager
________________________________________
Date: 2008-12-16, 9:27PM CST
A Letter from a Shelter Manager
I think our society needs a huge "Wake-up" call. As a shelter manager, I am going to share a little insight with you all...a view from the inside if you will.
First off, all of you breeders/sellers should be made to work in the "back" of an animal shelter for just one day. Maybe if you saw the life drain from a few sad, lost, confused eyes, you would change your mind about breeding and selling to people you don't even know.
That puppy you just sold will most likely end up in my shelter when it's not a cute little puppy anymore. So how would you feel if you knew that there's about a 90% chance that dog will never walk out of the shelter it is going to be dumped at? Purebred or not! About 50% of all of the dogs that are "owner surrenders" or "strays", that come into my shelter are purebred dogs.
The most common excuses I hear are; "We are moving and we can't take our dog (or cat)." Really? Where are you moving too that doesn't allow pets? Or they say "The dog got bigger than we thought it would". How big did you think a German Shepherd would get? "We don't have time for her". Really? I work a 10-12 hour day and still have time for my 6 dogs! "She's tearing up our yard". How about making her a part of your family? They always tell me "We just don't want to have to stress about finding a place for her we know she'll get adopted, she's a good dog".
Odds are your pet won't get adopted & how stressful do you think being in a shelter is? Well, let me tell you, your pet has 72 hours to find a new family from the moment you drop it off. Sometimes a little longer if the shelter isn't full and your dog manages to stay completely healthy. If it sniffles, it dies. Your pet will be confined to a small run/kennel in a room with about 25 other barking or crying animals. It will have to relieve itself where it eats and sleeps. It will be depressed and it will cry constantly for the family that abandoned it. If your pet is lucky, I will have enough volunteers in that day to take him/her for a walk. If I don't, your pet won't get any attention besides having a bowl of food slid under the kennel door and the waste sprayed out of its pen with a high-powered hose. If your dog is big, black or any of the "Bully" breeds (pit bull, rottie, mastiff, etc) it was pretty much dead when you walked it through the front door.
Those dogs just don't get adopted. It doesn't matter how 'sweet' or 'well behaved' they are.
If your dog doesn't get adopted within its 72 hours and the shelter is full, it will be destroyed. If the shelter isn't full and your dog is good enough, and of a desirable enough breed it may get a stay of execution, but not for long . Most dogs get very kennel protective after about a week and are destroyed for showing aggression. Even the sweetest dogs will turn in this environment. If your pet makes it over all of those hurdles chances are it will get kennel cough or an upper respiratory infection and will be destroyed because shelters just don't have the funds to pay for even a $100 treatment.
Here's a little euthanasia 101 for those of you that have never witnessed a perfectly healthy, scared animal being "put-down".
First, your pet will be taken from its kennel on a leash. They always look like they think they are going for a walk happy, wagging their tails. Until they get to "The Room", every one of them freaks out and puts on the brakes when we get to the door. It must smell like death or they can feel the sad souls that are left in there, it's strange, but it happens with every one of them. Your dog or cat will be restrained, held down by 1 or 2 vet techs depending on the size and how freaked out they are. Then a euthanasia tech or a vet will start the process. They will find a vein in the front leg and inject a lethal dose of the "pink stuff". Hopefully your pet doesn't panic from being restrained and jerk. I've seen the needles tear out of a leg and been covered with the resulting blood and been deafened by the yelps and screams. They all don't just "go to sleep", sometimes they spasm for a while, gasp for air and defecate on themselves.
When it all ends, your pets corpse will be stacked like firewood in a large freezer in the back with all of the other animals that were killed waiting to be picked up like garbage. What happens next? Cremated? Taken to the dump? Rendered into pet food? You'll never know and it probably won't even cross your mind. It was just an animal and you can always buy another one, right?
I hope that those of you that have read this are bawling your eyes out and can't get the pictures out of your head I deal with everyday on the way home from work.
I hate my job, I hate that it exists & I hate that it will always be there unless you people make some changes and realize that the lives you are affecting go much farther than the pets you dump at a shelter.
Between 9 and 11 MILLION animals die every year in shelters and only you can stop it. I do my best to save every life I can but rescues are always full, and there are more animals coming in everyday than there are homes.
My point to all of this DON'T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER PETS DIE!
Hate me if you want to. The truth hurts and reality is what it is. I just hope I maybe changed one persons mind about breeding their dog, taking their loving pet to a shelter, or buying a dog. I hope that someone will walk into my shelter and say "I saw this and it made me want to adopt". THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORTH IT
Comments
Well today I saw two types ones that were happy to see me and you could almost see a smile on their faces.
Then there were those who I could swear said F U. My owners will not even crack the window so I get a breeze.
Unfortunately Dusty who is 9 has bone cancer in his front leg. He has a few more months to live and I am heart broken. These are my #6 and 7 Golden Retrievers I have had and they are the best 2 I have had the please to be around.
I did not have Dusty's leg chopped off and then treated with Chemo. I did that with another dog that had Lymphatic Cancer and her prognosis was much better than his. I wanted him to have a good quality of life and when its time I will have him put down. It will be one of the hardest things I can do and I have doe it a bunch of times.
So for those out there that like to see goldens here are some pics of these two knuckleheads i have.
Enjoy
Here is The Duster at a Lake on Ft Bragg
Here he is out back in the snow when I lived in Fayettenam.
this is beautiful...short and simple.. be sure to turn up your sound
Click here: YouTube - GoD And DoG by WJ Francisco
Here are my 2 Golden's I have now,
In my 1974 Dodge Powerwagon, they love going for a drive with Dad
They are retriever and they love to chase sticks and balls. I take the male(light) hunting and he does OK. The Red one is gunshy
If you come to my door this is what will greet you. You are going to get some slobber and a lot of hair on you.
what are some names
or stories of bravery etc?
Be Bo,Tammy Sue,Major,Duke,Refugee "Ref",Coalie,Rottley,Gretta,
Taz,Prissilla,Daytona,Sandy to name a few.
Rottley saved my six when a perp was sneaking up to rob me,
funny thing was he was more afraid of the dog than the Dan Wesson 44 mag and hollow points.
Be Bo lived into her mid 20's
Rottley and Gretta were poisioned
Sandy and Prissilla are getting old[:(]
and Daytona will be needing a new bud
Priss sniffed out the wife's breast cancer
as a young dog
Daughter wants another Rott
I think after deer season
we will look for one.
Why can't our buddies live a little longer?
just makes me sad how many have passed
Words of wisdom.....
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go
where they went." - Will Rogers
"We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare,
and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all.
It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies,
quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love
and always have to mix love and hate." - Sigmund Freud
"The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags
his tail instead of his tongue." - Anonymous
"Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast
of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper,
containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items,
which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued
in the next yard." - Dave Barry
"Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like
never washed a dog." - Franklin P. Jones
"If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise." - Unknown
"I wonder what goes through his mind when he sees us
peeing in his water bowl." - Penny Ward Moser
"A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around
three times before lying down." - Robert Benchley
"No animal should ever jump up on the dining-room furniture
unless absolutely certain that he can hold his own in the
conversation."
- Fran Lebowitz
"I wonder if other dogs think poodles are member
of a weird religious cult." - Rita Rudner
"My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00
a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money." - Joe Weinstein
"Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence
that you are wonderful." - Ann Landers
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
- Ben Williams
"A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more
than he loves himself." - Josh Billings
"The average dog is a nicer person than the average person."
- Andrew A. Rooney
"Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend;
inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
"Ever consider what they must think of us? I mean,
here we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing haul --
chicken, pork, half a cow. They must think we're the greatest hunters
on earth!" -Anne Tyler
"If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs
I have known will go to heaven and very, very few persons.
- James Thurber
"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs
should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
HOW MANY DOGS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
Golden Retriever: The sun is shining, the day is young, we've got our whole lives ahead of
us, and you're inside worrying about a stupid burned out bulb?
Border Collie: Just one. And then I'll replace any wiring that's not up to code.
Dachshund: You know I can't reach that damned stupid lamp!
Rottweiler: Make me!!!
Lab: Oh, me, me!!!! Pleeeeeeze let me change the light bulb! Can I? Can I? Huh? Huh?
Huh? Can I?
Malamute: Let the Border Collie do it. You can feed me while he's busy.
Jack Russell Terrier: I'll just pop it in while I'm bouncing off the walls and furniture.
Poodle: I'll just blow in the Border Collie's ear and he'll do it.
By the time he finishes rewiring the house, my nails will be dry.
Cocker Spaniel: Why change it? I can still pee on the carpet in the dark.
Doberman Pinscher: While it's dark, I'm going to sleep on the couch.
Boxer: Who cares? I can still play with my squeaky toys in the dark......
Mastiff: Mastiffs are NOT afraid of the dark.
Chihuahua: Yo quiero Taco Bulb.
Pointer: I see it, there it is, there it is, right there....
Greyhound: It isn't moving. Who cares?
Australian Shepherd: First, I'll put all the light bulbs in a little circle....
Old English Sheep Dog: Light bulb? I'm sorry, but I don't see a light bulb?
Hound Dog: Z Z Z Z Z Z z z z z z z z z z
Cat: Dogs do not change light bulbs. People change light bulbs.
So the question is how long will it be before I can expect light? (for
your-Syl)
Edited by - gskyhawk on 04/29/2002 22:29:29
'Been checking out the local Animal shelters and Animal Rescue places and have seen several young Dachsies, I just have not had the time to make the trip to New Port Richy or Bushnell to see about 'adopting' one of them.[?]
Anybody got a Dachsie they want to part with????[:)]
I had a dog that was borderline man eater. He had a forty foot wire with a coiled steel line hooked to it on a roller. In effect 1200 square feet to romp in. He'd go through a chain link fence in no time, if left untethered. If he got out he wasn't really a threat, most of his aggression was territorial, But there was always the chance for catastrophe. I let him off the line when I was out and about and could keep an eye on him. When I walked to the store he was tied outside, with a muzzle on, never longer than half an hour. Worked for the twelve years he lived. He also preferred to be outside, he'd come in the house to visit and then stand by the door until he was let out again, winter or summer.
What I'm saying is, one size fits all, doesn't.
The alternative was to have him destroyed, doubtful he would ever socialize with a new owner. He was a washout at an international airport nearby, he was supposed to be a dope dog and washed out for aggression. He was scheduled to be destroyed when I took him for retraining.
My hunters stay in the car when I'm in a high seat, sometimes all night. They are used to it and it doesn't seem to bother them a bit. The run they get at the end of hunt makes up for the time spent penned up. They are happy well adjusted dogs, not the least bit neurotic. Neurotic dogs are usually the ones people try to turn into people, instead of letting them be dogs.
People tend to forget the natural order of things and try to make dogs people. Wild dogs go on the hunt for a few hours twice a day, then lounge around most of the day. They might snack on stuff when they are out, maybe a couple of mice or some veggies, but typically make a kill and pig out and may not really go hunting again for 2-3 days. Their natural rhythm is a few hours of activity, then lounge, then a few hours of activity then lounge, then pig out and maybe lounge for a couple of days. We've selectively bred. different traits or tendencies into certain breeds of dogs, some are mellower, some busier, but the base model is still relatively the same, unless they are trained to eat at meal times and sleep at night. My dogs can see at least 4-5 times as far in the dark as I can, that isn't an accident. We turn them into daylight active, they tend to hunt dawn and dusk naturally. Which works out most ways, they are active when we are home, in a brood sort of way.
There is a town in So. Cal, Called Calabasas, they have an ordinance against smoking cigarettes on the street. If somebody forgets where they are at and lights up, chances are the Cops will get half a dozen 911 calls. Sometimes people just get ate up with the dumb act, no matter how good their intentions.
Something else people forget, their have been domestic dogs just about as long as there has been homo sapiens, no kidding (around 200,000 years +/-). There is even evidence Neanderthal Man kept domesticated dogs (650,00 years +/-). Seems after that much time dogs are a part of human evolution and there is likely to be some sort of symbiotic relationship, at least with some humans. The ones who don't have the predisposition to be dog people, are unlikely to be sympathetic and make allowances. They are likely to get rules passed that inhibit people who do have the urge, it is called lack of empathy and is one step away from sociopathic behavior IMO.
1. Dogs are never permitted in the house. The dog stays outside in a specially built wooden compartment named, for very good reason, the dog house.
2. Okay, the dog can enter the house, but only for short visits or if his own house is under renovation.
3. Okay, the dog can stay in the house on a permanent basis, provided his dog house can be sold in a yard sale to a rookie dog owner.
4. Inside the house, the dog is not allowed to run free and is confined to a comfortable but secure metal cage.
5. Okay, the cage becomes part of a two-for-one deal along with the dog house in the yard sale, and the dog can go wherever the hell he pleases.
6. The dog is never allowed on the furniture.
7. Okay, the dog can get on the old furniture but not the new furniture.
8. Okay, the dog can get up on the new furniture until it looks like the old furniture and then we'll sell the whole damn works and buy new furniture...upon which the dog will most definitely not be allowed.
9. The dog never sleeps on the bed. Period.
10. Okay, the dog can sleep at the foot of the bed.
11. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you, but he's not allowed under the covers.
12. Okay, the dog can sleep under the covers but not with his head on the pillow.
13. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you under the covers with his head on the pillow, but if he snores he's got to leave the room.
14. Okay, the dog can sleep and snore and have nightmares in bed, but he's not to come in and sleep on the couch in the TV room, where I'm now sleeping.
That's just not fair.
15. The dog never gets listed on the census questionnaire as "primary resident," even if it's true.
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"The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue."
* Anonymous "Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful."
* Ann Landers "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
* Will Rogers "There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
* Ben Williams "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself."
* Josh Billings "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person."
* Andrew A. Rooney "We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare.
And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made."
* M.Facklam "Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate."
* Sigmund Freud "If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons."
* James Thurber "A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down."
* Robert Benchley "I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult."
* Rita Rudner "Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard."
* Dave Barry "Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog."
* Franklin P. Jones "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can.
That's almost $21.00 in dog money."
* Joe Weinstein "Ever consider what they must think of us? I mean, here we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing haul-chicken, pork, half a cow.
They must think we're the greatest hunters on earth!"
* Anne Tyler "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
* Robert A. Heinlein
To Ride, shoot straight,and speak the truth
This was the Ancient law of Youth
Old times are past, old times are done:
But the Law runs true, O little son!
She was the first natural-eared champion in the US.[;)]
She's a little beauty queen and she knows it.
She's also absolutely fearless. She helped me pull a German Shepherd off my male.
She'll also track a deer for hours at at time.
Absolutely relentless....
I lost her one night(not the only night....) when she was off tracking a deer and after 5.5 hours I called it a night.
I decided to come back at sunup to look for her again.
I go home at 1:30am and she shows up outside my gate at 3:30am whining(with a full stomach I might add). My male came into the bedroom to let me know she was there.
The amazing part of that story is that I live six miles from where I lost her and there was a whole city and an interstate to cross in order for her to get home.
I also had only ever driven to this place before. She just figured it out based on her knowledge of the car ride there as far as I can tell.
Here's a better pic of her:
Here's a better pic of the male:
His sister from a later litter(same parents) won Westminster this past week.
Shes a beauty.
Thanks...she also expects to be treated accordingly.
since this is about dogs does anyone know where to get a good black-mouth cur? I am in Arkansas
I always thought German Pincher was just another name for Dobermans. Learn something new everyday.
Good looking dogs, swamp.
I always thought German Pincher was just another name for Dobermans. Learn something new everyday.
Thanks.
You're not alone....
I have the whole spiel down now after four years of owning them.
Everybody thinks my male is a puppy Doberman and some have even said that my female looks like "the biggest Dachsund" they've ever seen....
GP's were one of the twelve breeds they used to come up with the Doberman.
GP's are a much older breed than Dobies but they never made the trip to the US in numbers like them. According to the info I got the first ones came to the US in the 80's. My male's' father came directly from Sweden.
In fact, due to a lot of health problems in American bred Dobermans many former Dobie owners are gravitating to the GP.
AKC only started recognizing them in 2003 and when I got my first one four years ago his breeder told me that there were only 500-600 in the country.
I've been all over the western US and I've never seen another one except at a breeder.
They have many of the traits of the Doberman but they are WAY more stubborn.
They're bred to work independently and are very good ratters but also have some serious guarding instincts.
Unfortunately they're not big enough to really take down a man but they'll give it hell....(both my dogs are on the large size...the male is 42# and the female is 36#)
For their own protection I have to keep them away from larger dogs because they either won't back down or they'll pick the fight themselves.
The male was almost killed by a Pit Bull when he was a year old and if he ever sees one now he's ready to rock and roll.
He'd lose that fight every time but he doesn't seem to know that.
This is why my next dog will probably be an Anatolian Shepherd.
These little schites need some muscle to back them up....
will you be having pups and selling them?
No, my female is spayed.
She has a pretty sad story in fact.
After her breeder showed her and got her championship at 9 mos. of age she decided not to breed her. I think it could be because she is a little on the large size for a female of the breed.
So....she gave/sold her to somebody that kept her two years and then decided to give her back to the breeder (this is a sign of a good breeder...they are supposed to always take the dog back if it doesn't work out and her breeder did. I'm very thankful for that) because he said that she wasn't a good enough guard dog. This is complete B.S. She's a hard core guard dog and won't let anybody get near the car or the yard.
The next time she went to a home with a bunch of miniature pinschers for a year when one of them bit her on the nose. Apparently she set it straight so the owners gave her back AGAIN....
It worked out for me and the male because I love her and he is much happier with another dog around. He used to be on the lookout constantly if there weren't any other dogs at the dog park before we got her. Believe it or not she'll be seven in March and I've had her since she was five.
My male's breeder has some puppies right now. www.spiritgermanpinschers.com
I must warn you, though. These dogs aren't for the faint of heart.
Somebody described them as Jack Russell Terriers only bigger.
I've never owned a JRT so I don't know how accurate that is.
I will say that they are stubborn and manipulative...very, very smart and will do what they damn well please. If it moves they will immediately chase it.
My female will lunge at noisy cars. In fact, she will always run TOWARD any loud noise.
It's the damnedest thing. She never runs away from a loud noise, always toward it.
They also will be in your business 24/7. I don't mind it...I actually like it.
They also will always be touching you if at all possible.
They insist on being a part of your life and frankly they expect you to treat them as a full family member.
Being just a dog won't do for them and if you try to get away with just leaving them in the back yard they will either destroy it or get out and get ran over. My male's sister died this way in Sweden.
They need lots of exercise and have tons of energy. The seven year old is the one that went AWOL chasing deer two different times. Once for 5 hours and another time for 7.
When my male was a year old I took him mountain biking and we covered 15 miles according to the bike computer. I figure he had to cover at least 18 miles figuring in all the time he spent off the trail chasing whatever tickled his fancy.
He never stopped to rest unless we did.
They are also EXPENSIVE....
I paid $1000 for my male but since my female was a rescue technically I only had to pay a $250 re-homing fee.
I've heard of some going for $2,000-$2,500 even.
I grew up with Dobies, but have shied away from them in my adult years due to the health problems that you mentioned.
German Pinchers might be something I look into, thanks.
how are they around kids?
I have been looking for a black-mouth cur they might fit my bill better
Very cool, thanks for the info.
I grew up with Dobies, but have shied away from them in my adult years due to the health problems that you mentioned.
German Pinchers might be something I look into, thanks.
You're welcome.
If you just really like Dobies I found a breeder in Arizona that uses exclusively European champion stock and they look it.
He's on YouTube at "familydobes."
They are some of the biggest Dobermans I've ever seen but temperamentally they are sound.
They also cost $5,000 each.....[8)]
German Pinschers are more controllable due to their size but when I'm walking them both and they decide to chase a cat I have to be planted or they will drag me.
If I'm moving at all when they both take off I have no choice but to go with them leaning back and resisting as much as I can
thanks for the information
how are they around kids?
I have been looking for a black-mouth cur they might fit my bill better
They're very good around respectful kids.
The same actually goes for adults.
If a kid is frantic, making all kinds of noises and smacks them on the head they'll react.
They'll try to avoid them but if they're on a leash with nowhere to go they might bite an unruly kid.
They don't take much crap at all and will first try to get away from them. If they can't then there's a good chance they'll snap.
On the flip side calm, good-natured kids can pet them all day long. Especially the female. In one of her other homes there was a little boy and girl.
If she hears kids playing in the distance she will always go up to them and check on them. She'll let them pet her all day long as long as they're well-behaved kids.
They tend to avoid doofuses be they kids or adults.
That may sound snobbish but it's true.
One day at the dog park three young couples came in with two babies and a puppy. They all sat down in a circle and my male would go to them one by one checking on them trying to get a few to play with him.
He would keep a special eye on the babies, sniffing them(both ends...) and generally guarding them. He did the same thing with the puppy.
When I figured they had had enough of him I called him away but he wasn't having it.
He walked about ten yards away and plopped down with his back to them.
There was a pond on the other side and he was literally watching their back.
The little bastige decided they needed more protecting than me.[:)]
I've also got some videos on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/rogerpemberton?feature=mexp
Beautiful dogs swampgut...absolutely gorgeous..
Thanks---Peabo
Dobermans and great danes have always been favorites of mine...
Beautiful dogs swampgut...absolutely gorgeous..
Thank you.
I looked for six or seven years before I found a breed that really seemed to fit my personality/lifestyle.
German Pinschers are the perfect breed for me.