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Black and Hispanic Mob Attacks Man in His Home

swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
edited September 2011 in General Discussion
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110927_Chased_home__Mob_attacks_man_in_his_house.html?cmpid=124488459
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This is some messed up stuff.

Winter can't get here soon enough for me. It tends to calm down the restless.

Damn...[:(!]

Comments

  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    Rat a tat tat


    I think you can even get a CHL/CCW in Philly.

    I wonder what this guy's next move is in that regard.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of these days they are going to pick the wrong car or house...they are gonna rush a car, start pounding on the glass and two or three will catch rounds point blank in the face before they even know whats going on in the all the ruckus...

    Then we'll see a story about a white guy targeting a group of minority youths that were out having fun, minding their own business. [V]

    Its gonna be a bad day for everyone...
  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When the day comes and someone stands their ground and pushes back shilowar has it pegged.

    It will be a race based hate crime despite the fact that the attackers were minorities and they outnumbered the white guy/girl 10 to 1.

    The non minority will always be at fault in these cases. The minorities cannot be racist or wrong...because they are minorities.

    You sure do not hear of this happening in Texas or Arizona where they know people most likely have a weapon.
  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by medic07


    You sure do not hear of this happening in Texas or Arizona where they know people most likely have a weapon.
    +10

    Another possible contributing factor: folks in the South tend to be more polite and respectful of others regardless of color or gender.
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by medic07


    You sure do not hear of this happening in Texas or Arizona where they know people most likely have a weapon.
    +10

    Another possible contributing factor: folks in the South tend to be more polite and respectful of others regardless of color or gender.


    I noticed that too.

    The rudest town I've ever lived in was Austin, TX.

    A liberal oasis.....[8)]

    Something else you don't see in typically uber-rich liberal sanctuaries:

    Interracial couples.

    How's that for de facto racism?

    All the redneck, podunk town's I've been in had plenty of interracial couplings in plain view.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That mob is damn lucky he didn't have a shotgun waiting behind the door. He locked the door and they busted it down and attacked him even though he had nothing to do with the incident. What if those cops didn't show up for another five minutes?
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by swampgut
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110927_Chased_home__Mob_attacks_man_in_his_house.html?cmpid=124488459
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    This is some messed up stuff.

    Winter can't get here soon enough for me. It tends to calm down the restless.

    Damn...[:(!]
    Lots of whites do bad things too...Just had a white guy in my neck of the woods sent to prison for the rest of his life for shooting his ex and killing her in front of their kids...now that I think about it...blacks that do bad always seem to get their 15 minutes of fame...whites rarely do..my 2 cents
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    Remember that Bernie Goetz did time.
    Just sayin'
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    Remember that Bernie Goetz did time.
    Just sayin'


    well..he served 9 months for illegal possession of a handgun, he was aquitted on all the charges from the shootings
  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I read the article twice and came away thinking it was creative writing masquerading as journalism.

    It goes from "white teens 'attacked an African-American kid'" to "She heard that an African-American 'kid got knocked off his bike or fell off' and white kids were laughing at him..."

    It's like reading National Enquirer.

    With all the sensationalism in the article, I wonder what kind of gun the kid had.

    If the homeowner had used a gun it would no doubt be described as an assault rifle or high-capacity handgun [:(]
  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
    How many of you keep hearing protection at hand in your vehicle?




    .........Why is tha puttin them thangs on?




    .....wassat in his hand?



    ...Uh Oh.......................
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by medic07
    When the day comes and someone stands their ground and pushes back shilowar has it pegged.

    It will be a race based hate crime despite the fact that the attackers were minorities and they outnumbered the white guy/girl 10 to 1.

    The non minority will always be at fault in these cases. The minorities cannot be racist or wrong...because they are minorities.

    You sure do not hear of this happening in Texas or Arizona where they know people most likely have a weapon.


    In Filthydelphia...the white race is now the minority. I thank God every day that I escaped that cesspool of violence, corruption and filth.
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup, the winter'll slow this stuff down. Then, you'll have to be extra careful in the subway.

    If you shoot to protect, the DA'll have you up on charges like you won't believe.

    Even if some guy with a machete has your leg chopped off,
    if he is retreating, you'll be damned if you shoot.
  • woodhogwoodhog Member Posts: 13,115 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never the less, a target rich environment.
  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by medic07


    You sure do not hear of this happening in Texas or Arizona where they know people most likely have a weapon.
    +10

    Another possible contributing factor: folks in the South tend to be more polite and respectful of others regardless of color or gender.


    Arizona is in the South, now?
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would have been a very different situation at my house. We have Castle Doctrine here.
  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Castle Doctrine or not, the media will shake-n-bake you. Just imagine what the talking heads would say if he had shot one of them - "Youth athletic supporter shoots and maims teens. Several hospitalized, some in critical condition...Details at 11."
  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some interesting segments of the story:

    " 'We got you, you white mother
    !' " LaVelle said he heard someone yell in the "mob" of black and Hispanic youths.

    why did the paper see the need to put "mob" in quotes?

    LaVelle said that the next day the mother of the juvenile came back with some other people, banging on his door, screaming. LaVelle, who was at a charity sports event, was called back to the house by one of his sons.

    When he got home, LaVelle said, the mother yelled at him, " 'You white mother
    , you got my kid locked up! You got my son locked up because he's black, you're white!' " The mother claimed that her son had been "a witness," not an attacker. To that, LaVelle said if that were true, it would come out in court.

    But the mother, according to LaVelle, then yelled: " 'If you make it to court! I know where you live!' "

    This is a key problem with the ghetto youth: enabling by their "mamas" who don't teach or enforce responsibility.

    They don't believe that the attack on LaVelle started as a racial incident, but believe that there was a racial element to it when the mob "called him a white mother
    " and when the juvenile's mother allegedly threatened LaVelle.

    Really? Hard to square that with this:

    dozens of youths with bats and pipes descended on a tidy residential area of Port Richmond looking for white teens who allegedly had attacked an African-American kid at Stokely Playground a couple of hours earlier.

    and this:

    She heard that an African-American "kid got knocked off his bike or fell off" and white kids were laughing at him. The group of African-Americans and Hispanics came back for retaliation, Kozlowski believes.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,083 ******
    edited November -1
    "With the two teens hiding in the house, LaVelle, 5 feet 10, 220 pounds, a well-known sports-league organizer and coach in the community, went outside to try to calm the angry mob."

    Bad move, going outside, thinking he can talk to predatory animals and get his point across as though he were talking with his neighbor. They don't get it. They don't process information the same way normal people do. They are sociopaths, and there is no reasoning with them.

    I never recommend removing a physical barrier between one and one's antagonist. Removing the barrier makes it look as though one were willing to participate in whatever happens next. If they want to break the door down, let them, then deal with them inside.
  • swopjanswopjan Member Posts: 3,292
    edited November -1
    quote:Police arrested Bergson Morin, 21, of Rosehill Street near Wyoming Avenue, Feltonville, as the man with the gun. They arrested Enrique Delgado, 32, of Rockland and C streets, Feltonville, as the man who hit LaVelle with the pipe. And they arrested a 17-year-old juvenile as the one who punched LaVelle in the face, giving him a black eye.

    What a positive role model for the rest of those psychos. Hope he spends some time behind a different bunch of solid, steel cylinders and three concrete walls.

    But, I doubt it. Good thing I've got quite a few ounces of "prevention," as these incidents don't usually result in much "cure."
  • Alan RushingAlan Rushing Member Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    "With the two teens hiding in the house, LaVelle, 5 feet 10, 220 pounds, a well-known sports-league organizer and coach in the community, went outside to try to calm the angry mob."

    Bad move, going outside, thinking he can talk to predatory animals and get his point across as though he were talking with his neighbor. They don't get it. They don't process information the same way normal people do. They are sociopaths, and there is no reasoning with them.

    I never recommend removing a physical barrier between one and one's antagonist. Removing the barrier makes it look as though one were willing to participate in whatever happens next. If they want to break the door down, let them, then deal with them inside.

    Wise words and uncommon sense shared. [^]
  • minitruck83minitruck83 Member Posts: 5,369
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by swampgut

    All the redneck, podunk town's I've been in had plenty of interracial couplings in plain view.



    [:0]


    Allen
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pennsylvania has the Castle Doctrine as of a few months ago.

    NEWS Video:
    http://youtu.be/qMa9cj1of1Q
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
    NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by swampgut
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110927_Chased_home__Mob_attacks_man_in_his_house.html?cmpid=124488459
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    This is some messed up stuff.

    Winter can't get here soon enough for me. It tends to calm down the restless.

    Damn...[:(!]
    Lots of whites do bad things too...Just had a white guy in my neck of the woods sent to prison for the rest of his life for shooting his ex and killing her in front of their kids...now that I think about it...blacks that do bad always seem to get their 15 minutes of fame...whites rarely do..my 2 cents


    When was the last time a white mob did anything to a minority?
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigcitybill
    Castle Doctrine or not, the media will shake-n-bake you. Just imagine what the talking heads would say if he had shot one of them - "Youth athletic supporter shoots and maims teens. Several hospitalized, some in critical condition...Details at 11."


    First of all, one of the attackers arrested was 32 years old and another was in his 20's.

    They're not teenagers.

    These are GROWN MEN.
  • swampgutswampgut Member Posts: 5,555
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    "With the two teens hiding in the house, LaVelle, 5 feet 10, 220 pounds, a well-known sports-league organizer and coach in the community, went outside to try to calm the angry mob."

    Bad move, going outside, thinking he can talk to predatory animals and get his point across as though he were talking with his neighbor. They don't get it. They don't process information the same way normal people do. They are sociopaths, and there is no reasoning with them.

    I never recommend removing a physical barrier between one and one's antagonist. Removing the barrier makes it look as though one were willing to participate in whatever happens next. If they want to break the door down, let them, then deal with them inside.


    Perfectly stated, nunn.

    This is why good people who see no bad in others are always the ones that get massacred without a fighting chance.

    There are predators among us and the sooner people realize that the better they and their families will be.
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