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why cant this be done again today

CHEVELLE427CHEVELLE427 Member Posts: 6,750
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
do to censorship here you will have to make the last words in the link one word, so just cut and past and make the correction ,

MODS THIS was A REAL OPERATION, no slander ment.
just a fact stated

this was a real operation back in 1954 by our goverment


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wet back

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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    do to censorship here you will have to make the last words in the link one word, so just cut and past and make the correction ,

    MODS THIS was A REAL OPERATION, no slander ment.
    just a fact stated

    this was a real operation back in 1954 by our goverment


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_undocumented alien

    History

    Burgeoning numbers of illegal aliens prompted President Dwight D. Eisenhower to appoint his longtime friend, General Joseph Swing, as INS Commissioner. According to Attorney General Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration upon taking office. In a letter to Sen. William Fulbright, Eisenhower quoted a report in The New York Times that said, "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'undocumented aliens' (rooted from the watery route taken by the Mexican immigrants across the Rio Grande) to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."[2]

    The operation was modeled after a program that put pressure on American citizens of Mexican ancestry to move to Mexico during the Great Depression because of the bad economic situation in the United States. (See Mexican Repatriation.)

    [edit] Operation undocumented alien in action

    The effort began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies, to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics.[3] 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 immigrants were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 illegal immigrants are claimed to have left voluntarily for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas on their own. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexico before releasing them. Tens of thousands more were deported by two chartered ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried them from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) to the south. Some were taken as far as 1,000 miles. Deportation by sea was ended after seven deportees jumped overboard from the Mercurio and drowned, provoking a mutiny which lead to a public outcry in Mexico.[4]

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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    quote:Some were taken as far as 1,000 miles

    cheaper to just shoot 'em.
  • TrupoBPTTrupoBPT Member Posts: 381 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It was legal back then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
    Can it be done agian today?
  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
    do to censorship here you will have to make the last words in the link one word, so just cut and past and make the correction ,

    MODS THIS was A REAL OPERATION, no slander ment.
    just a fact stated

    this was a real operation back in 1954 by our goverment


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_undocumented alien

    History

    Burgeoning numbers of illegal aliens prompted President Dwight D. Eisenhower to appoint his longtime friend, General Joseph Swing, as INS Commissioner. According to Attorney General Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration upon taking office. In a letter to Sen. William Fulbright, Eisenhower quoted a report in The New York Times that said, "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'undocumented aliens' (rooted from the watery route taken by the Mexican immigrants across the Rio Grande) to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."[2]

    The operation was modeled after a program that put pressure on American citizens of Mexican ancestry to move to Mexico during the Great Depression because of the bad economic situation in the United States. (See Mexican Repatriation.)

    [edit] Operation undocumented alien in action

    The effort began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies, to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics.[3] 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 immigrants were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 illegal immigrants are claimed to have left voluntarily for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas on their own. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexico before releasing them. Tens of thousands more were deported by two chartered ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried them from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) to the south. Some were taken as far as 1,000 miles. Deportation by sea was ended after seven deportees jumped overboard from the Mercurio and drowned, provoking a mutiny which lead to a public outcry in Mexico.[4]

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    I am all for stopping illegal immigration and getting the illegals out of here, but this part is wrong. Legal citizens that LOOK Mexican should not have to worry about "showing papers."
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [quote/] I am all for stopping illegal immigration and getting the illegals out of here, but this part is wrong. Legal citizens that LOOK Mexican should not have to worry about "showing papers."
    [/quote]
    Well we all have to show our papers some don't we? At the airport, if a cop stops you, if you seem suspicious, library, etc. So if we wanted to round up illegals I see no reason people would not have to show their papers, maybe that is profiling but the only effective method. You think they will all just turn themselves in?
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98

    [quote/] I am all for stopping illegal immigration and getting the illegals out of here, but this part is wrong. Legal citizens that LOOK Mexican should not have to worry about "showing papers."

    Well we all have to show our papers some don't we? At the airport, if a cop stops you, if you seem suspicious, library, etc. So if we wanted to round up illegals I see no reason people would not have to show their papers, maybe that is profiling but the only effective method. You think they will all just turn themselves in?
    [/quote]

    We have to show proof of citizen ship when we come into this country. I am ok with that. But being stopped because of looks? That is not alright. Now if you stop a speeder and find out that he is illegal, by all means, ship him back. If you get information that a farmer is hiring illegals, by all means, ask the farmer for verification that they are legal. If he can't prove it, ask THEM for proof, if THEY can't prove it, send them back.
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    no reason it could`nt be done, it just needs the political will to do it.

    i won`t hold my breath for that to happen though!

    i reckon the issue of illegal immigration should go to a national refurendum for you all to have your say, majority view to be obeyed by your political masters, but i won`t hold my breath about that either![V]
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, have friends in Arizona and Texas that are Hispanic surnamed- and their families have lived there for about 400 years. As far as the "foreigner go home" concept, they are in favor of it- they want to know when the Californians are going to leave?
  • The Ultimate InfidelThe Ultimate Infidel Member Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hope ya told em that we dont leave once the check is cashed.
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