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Colonel Plink
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What the pharmacist did wrong...
It's like "Where's Elmo" with current events.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522461,00.html
OKLAHOMA CITY - An Oklahoma City pharmacist who shot and killed a 16-year-old would-be robber was charged Wednesday with first-degree murder.
Jerome Ersland, 57, was being held without bail in the Oklahoma County Jail.
Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said in an afternoon news conference that Ersland was justified in shooting Antwun Parker once in the head on May 19. But Prater said Ersland went too far when he shot Parker five more times in the abdomen while Parker lay unconscious on the floor.
Ersland's attorney, Irven Box, said Ersland was protecting himself and two women inside the pharmacy.
"I think he did something in his eyes that protected both himself and two ladies in there," Box said. "He put an end to the threat."
Box said he thinks a jury will exonerate Ersland.
At an afternoon news conference, Prater showed a security video in which two men burst into the pharmacy and one is shot.
Ersland is seen chasing the second man outside before returning, walking past Parker to get a second gun then going back to Parker and opening fire.
The charge alleges Ersland shot Parker while he was incapacitated and lying on his back. Ersland's account of the incident doesn't match the video or the evidence collected at the scene, according to an affidavit written by Oklahoma City Police Detective David Jacobson.
Jacobson said the suspect who ran away from the pharmacy was armed, but no gun was found near Parker.
"Ersland shows no concern for his safety as he walks by Parker, and turns his back to Parker as he walks behind the pharmacy counter," Jacobson said. "Ersland is then seen to put the pistol he is carrying on the counter, and retrieve a second pistol from a drawer."
Ersland used this pistol to shoot Parker on the ground, the detective said.
He said an autopsy determined that Parker had been shot in the head, but was still alive when he was shot in the stomach area and died from those injuries.
It's like "Where's Elmo" with current events.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522461,00.html
OKLAHOMA CITY - An Oklahoma City pharmacist who shot and killed a 16-year-old would-be robber was charged Wednesday with first-degree murder.
Jerome Ersland, 57, was being held without bail in the Oklahoma County Jail.
Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said in an afternoon news conference that Ersland was justified in shooting Antwun Parker once in the head on May 19. But Prater said Ersland went too far when he shot Parker five more times in the abdomen while Parker lay unconscious on the floor.
Ersland's attorney, Irven Box, said Ersland was protecting himself and two women inside the pharmacy.
"I think he did something in his eyes that protected both himself and two ladies in there," Box said. "He put an end to the threat."
Box said he thinks a jury will exonerate Ersland.
At an afternoon news conference, Prater showed a security video in which two men burst into the pharmacy and one is shot.
Ersland is seen chasing the second man outside before returning, walking past Parker to get a second gun then going back to Parker and opening fire.
The charge alleges Ersland shot Parker while he was incapacitated and lying on his back. Ersland's account of the incident doesn't match the video or the evidence collected at the scene, according to an affidavit written by Oklahoma City Police Detective David Jacobson.
Jacobson said the suspect who ran away from the pharmacy was armed, but no gun was found near Parker.
"Ersland shows no concern for his safety as he walks by Parker, and turns his back to Parker as he walks behind the pharmacy counter," Jacobson said. "Ersland is then seen to put the pistol he is carrying on the counter, and retrieve a second pistol from a drawer."
Ersland used this pistol to shoot Parker on the ground, the detective said.
He said an autopsy determined that Parker had been shot in the head, but was still alive when he was shot in the stomach area and died from those injuries.
Comments
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but I dont know all the details.. the camera angle may have been placed in manor that a precived threat to the owner remains unseen.
.. chasing the second man outside before returning, walking past Parker to get a second gun then going back to Parker and opening fire.
He made the mistake when he got the second gun and went back to shoot the first guy again. In the eyes of the law that he intentionally killed the guy.
If he would have just got the second gun and held the guy until the cops arrived. He would have not been charged with murder.
Adrenaline dump?
Yup.
Something I would likely do.
STOP THE THREAT !!
Doug
..security video in which two men burst into the pharmacy and one is shot.
.. chasing the second man outside before returning, walking past Parker to get a second gun then going back to Parker and opening fire.
He made the mistake when he got the second gun and went back to shoot the first guy again. In the eyes of the law that he intentionally killed the guy.
If he would have just got the second gun and held the guy until the cops arrived. He would have not been charged with murder.
+1
He went past defending himself. He SHOULD be charged.
Otherwise, I think he is the victim of over zealous cops.
"FREE CARL LEE"
If I was on that jury I would not vote for any type of conviction.
Only thing he did wrong IMO was kill the kid. Shoulda shot his knees out or capped him in the family jewels, let him sit in prison the rest of his life for armed robbery.
So we can pay 30k a year to feed him. Dont do the crime, if you cant do the time.
quote:Originally posted by Jacob2008
Only thing he did wrong IMO was kill the kid. Shoulda shot his knees out or capped him in the family jewels, let him sit in prison the rest of his life for armed robbery.
So we can pay 30k a year to feed him. Dont do the crime, if you cant do the time.
I dont believe in that either. Make him work his * off for his food, if he wants to eat.
As it is now, only one eye witness living. His story against a theory from the cops that the kid was down and living but no longer a threat.
The 5 to the guts, will no doubt cost him his freedom, forever.[:(]
Sounds like a good case for jury nullification.
+1
No conviction if I'm sitting on that jury.
Need more ending like this.
Free the Pharmacist!!!