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California ammunition
Captplaid
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So what's the story. Will you be able to buy ammunition after January 1? Is anyone authorized to sell ammunition? Big box stores?
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For 2018 it only affects buying ammo online or by mail.
Yup. Better get your local gun store to order you some not regularly on the shelf ammo and stock up.
If I was in a gun friendly state, and shipped ammo to California knowing I would never go to the state...what could honestly happen? I'm trying to see a good state that would actually care to extradite to California for this crap.
Thoughts?
So legit question....
If I was in a gun friendly state, and shipped ammo to California knowing I would never go to the state...what could honestly happen? I'm trying to see a good state that would actually care to extradite to California for this crap.
Thoughts?
Just put a bogus name and return address on it if sending to a friend [:D]
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
from the wiki re: NY Safe Act. Expect the same from dumbassifornistan.
The Act requires ammunition dealers to conduct background checks (similar to those for gun buyers) for purchases, and bans on direct Internet sales of ammunition.[14][15] (Under the Act, online sales to New Yorkers are still legal, but the buyer must go through a licensed dealer in the state and pick up the ammunition in person).[16] In 2015, Governor Cuomo and Senate entered into an unusual "memorandum of understanding" suspending the ammunition portions of the Act, citing "the lack of adequate technology." The memo states that the database "cannot be established and/or function in the manner originally intended at this time." The memo does not formally amend the Act or have legal effect, but according to the governor's office it "provides assurances to all that the database will not be implemented until it is ready and tested."[14][15]
New York has the same thing in the "Safe Act" but no one will run the background check. So it gets ignored for the last 5 years and pretty much for the foreseeable future.
from the wiki re: NY Safe Act. Expect the same from dumbassifornistan.
The Act requires ammunition dealers to conduct background checks (similar to those for gun buyers) for purchases, and bans on direct Internet sales of ammunition.[14][15] (Under the Act, online sales to New Yorkers are still legal, but the buyer must go through a licensed dealer in the state and pick up the ammunition in person).[16] In 2015, Governor Cuomo and Senate entered into an unusual "memorandum of understanding" suspending the ammunition portions of the Act, citing "the lack of adequate technology." The memo states that the database "cannot be established and/or function in the manner originally intended at this time." The memo does not formally amend the Act or have legal effect, but according to the governor's office it "provides assurances to all that the database will not be implemented until it is ready and tested."[14][15]
I believe this is the type of background check that will be used.. Kali has it's own databases, as well as access to most federal records..
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pfecfaqs#2
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/pfecapp.pdf
A person can submit this (along with $20) with no harm/no foul if found ineligible.. This is the type of background check that is also used for employees selling firearms ( and now ammunition).. It is not valid for a firearm purchase, however, few ever fail the NICS check if they pass the Eligibility check.. No one ever knows for sure with anything concerning the Kali D.O.J, but most think they use the same federal records database..
"2. I'm not sure whether I have a California record that would prevent me from owning/possessing a firearm. Is there a way to find out before I attempt to purchase one?
Yes, you may request a California Personal Firearms Eligibility Check (PFEC) by submitting a (PFEC) application, pdf to the Department of Justice. For more information about how to request a PFEC, please refer to the PFEC FAQ. Applications are also available through your local firearms dealer. Please be advised that a PFEC does not include a Federal NICS check. Therefore, you may still be prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm even though you receive a PFEC response indicating you are eligible to own or possess firearms.
(Pen. Code, ? 30105)"
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#2
Awesome....
Anyone in Cal with those documents is exempt from the new ammo law.
Also, in the new ammo law there is no mention of reloading components, only "ammunition". Now, buying components may be tricky as some sellers of components might not read the law and erroneously believe they cannot sell to Cal.
Funny thing about a law, is that if everyone continually and blatantly ignores it...regardless of the consequences. The law tends to go away, or the consequences become very small as it becomes to much of a burden on the system.
Just look at how weed laws are changing.