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4 teens charged with starting $11M forest fire

discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2016 in General Discussion
the fire down by 35Whelan was unintentionally set by 4 teens camping out and didnt fully extinguish their campfire.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/four-teens-charged-with-starting-million-roaring-lion-fire/article_09713de6-718b-56b4-8f1b-0127634092e4.html

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  • dpmuledpmule Member Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got a similar situation going in SE Idaho. A dimwit with bottle rockets started one that burnt 50,000 acres and current estimated costs are 4.4 million.
    He did turn himself in because information had come out that he was a suspect.

    But, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

    Remember a few years back, that a USFS employee started one in Colorado from burning love letters at a campground during a burn ban, never did hear what her punishment was?


    Mule
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    instead of using the fire ring that was there, they dug a hole then ringed the hole with rock for their fire closer to where they were camped. they said they watered it several times. what they didn't realise is that there is tens of 1000s of years of pine needle buildup in the soil, and the buildup was smoldering down deep. the high winds that came days later blue the ash covering away and allowed the still smoldering embers to ignite and the rest is history.
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by discusdad what they didn't realise is that there is tens of 1000s of years of pine needle buildup in the soil, and the buildup was smoldering down deep.. . . and the rest is history.


    Yup. Just look at Centralia PA (current population, 10).
  • Smoky14Smoky14 Member Posts: 531 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dpmule
    Got a similar situation going in SE Idaho. A dimwit with bottle rockets started one that burnt 50,000 acres and current estimated costs are 4.4 million.
    He did turn himself in because information had come out that he was a suspect.

    But, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

    Remember a few years back, that a USFS employee started one in Colorado from burning love letters at a campground during a burn ban, never did hear what her punishment was?


    Mule

    Probably got promoted[V]
  • cahascahas Member Posts: 4,064
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dpmule
    Got a similar situation going in SE Idaho. A dimwit with bottle rockets started one that burnt 50,000 acres and current estimated costs are 4.4 million.
    He did turn himself in because information had come out that he was a suspect.

    But, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

    Remember a few years back, that a USFS employee started one in Colorado from burning love letters at a campground during a burn ban, never did hear what her punishment was?


    Mule
    http://www.denverpost.com/2008/06/02/hayman-fire-starter-freed-from-prison/
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing to see here as the rioter burn down cities and nothing is done to them
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shame on those campers...
    "What is truth?'
  • Franz?Franz? Member Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Be very aware of the lovely Chinee paper hot air balloons with the candle. Damn near lost two buildings to those damn things last July.

    Town cop finally got off his * and drove into the wind and found the launch site. The nice people there had no idea their balloon might come down in a DRY field.

    In 2016 you do any damn thing you feel like doing because there are no consequences. STUPID is a legal defense!


    The Washington Times - Tuesday, October 25, 2016

    WOFFORD HEIGHTS, Calif. - Angel Gilberto Garcia-Avalos had been deported five times in just the past four years, yet each time he has managed to sneak from Mexico back into the U.S., where he ended up in more mischief: driving without a license, attempted burglary and felony weapons charges.

    In August, he graduated to full-fledged mayhem, sparking a fire in the Sequoia National Forest that has already cost the government $61 million and left some of the country's most beautiful landscape scarred for years to come.

    Garcia, who pleaded guilty last month and faces 13 months in prison, had only recently been released from the Kern County Jail. He likely would have been deported again, but local authorities were unable to report him to immigration authorities because of California's new sanctuary city law, which prohibited the sheriff from communicating with federal agents.

    Federal agents now say they will kick Garcia out of the country once he serves his latest sentence, but the damage has already been done.

    At a point along State Highway 155 through the Sequoia National Forest, the smell of cedar gives way to the stench of soot. Ash-blackened trees above and below the roadway show the path of the blaze.

    Investigators determined that the spark came from a Nissan Maxima that Garcia was driving over a rough dirt trail near Cedar Creek. Garcia tried to drive over a berm and hit a tree. The hot muffler on his car ignited grass parched by years of drought, investigators said in an account filed in federal court.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,240 ******
    edited November -1
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