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Toilet Question??

RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
Kind of a weird question but I will try to describe as best I can and hopefully someone can figure out exactly what is happening.

I have 3 bathrooms in my house. I recently put blue tablets into all three tanks. So you flush and the water is now blue and supposedly helps the toilet stay clean.

I only really use one bathroom. Water is always blue. Bathroom #2 might get used once a week, and water is always blue. Bathroom #3 is rarely ever used, and the water won't even stay blue for one day.

The tank can't be leaking to the toilet or the water would still be blue as all the tank water is blue. Somehow I figure the water is coming back up into the toilet. How?? and Why??

This is a double-wide trailer, so the build quality isn't the best, did they short me a p-trap? Is there a p-trap on toilets? There hasn't been alot of wind lately so the stink pipe hasn't had alot of air pressure.

Any ideas? Never noticed this before as I just recently tired the blue tablets.

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  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you ever hear the toilet water run without it being flushed?
    A lot of time the flapper seal becomes non-pliable letting water escape, it might fill just for a few seconds until it reaches the float level but continually cycling the water through.
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    The P trap is actually in the toilet. Maybe you got a bad blue tablet? Have you been flushing it to see if it will turn blue?
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nope, never hear any water running. I would think that if water were bypasssing the seal from the tank into the bowl it should still be blue as the water in the tank is continually blue.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pietro75
    The P trap is actually in the toilet. Maybe you got a bad blue tablet? Have you been flushing it to see if it will turn blue?


    That's kinda what I thought about the P-trap. When you first flush the toilet all the water is nice and blue. I come back later in the day and it isn't blue anymore. Flush it again and it is back to blue.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just flushed at say 12:30 and I will try to check to see how long it actually lasts.
  • likemhotlikemhot Member Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take the lid off the tank, if the water is not blue in the tank then its a tablet problem, if it is and the water in the stool is not blue you have a different problem
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Water is blue in the tank.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So flushed it just before 12:30 and now at 12:45 the water is already changing color. It is kind of dirty looking and almost purply and clear at the same time.

    The water in the tank is still nice and blue.
  • catgunguycatgunguy Member Posts: 6,089
    edited November -1
    See what they use in the tablets. It could be an oxygen ingredient that evaperates after a period of time taking the blue out. If it is then every thing is ok.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by catgunguy
    See what they use in the tablets. It could be an oxygen ingredient that evaperates after a period of time taking the blue out. If it is then every thing is ok.


    It could be a bad tablet, but it came from the same package as one of the other 2 toilets. (2 tablets per package) and the other 2 toilets stay blue continuously and one is only flushed about once a week.

    It could be nothing but is driving me crazy that I can't pinpoint what is happening.
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    Hey, maybe some sneaky bastages are stealing your blue.


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  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Fixed the link for ya. Yep that looks like they have been caught red er i mean blue handed.
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    I think I may have found your problem.


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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    My guess is that the chemical is reacting with some sort of bacteria or similar in the toilet.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some flush units have a small hose that runs in the top stand pipe that is in the tank when you flush Most of the water gets to the bowl via the flapper valueBLUE but some comes in direct via this little tube down the stand pipe Each kind of flush unit may be slightly different. If this small tube MINE looks like a weed-eater fuel line it will can slowly run and dilute the water in the bowl until it is clear. flush the unit after it cuts off turn off the valve
    of water supply coming into the tank and see what happens. see if water level goes down in tank.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FYI, putting that crap into your toilet tank is BAD for all of the internal parts.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • topdadtopdad Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    some flush units have a small hose that runs in the top stand pipe that is in the tank when you flush Most of the water gets to the bowl via the flapper valueBLUE but some comes in direct via this little tube down the stand pipe Each kind of flush unit may be slightly different. If this small tube MINE looks like a weed-eater fuel line it will can slowly run and dilute the water in the bowl until it is clear. flush the unit after it cuts off turn off the valve
    of water supply coming into the tank and see what happens. see if water level goes down in tank.

    this sounds like the culprit,
  • traprtrapr Member Posts: 199 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    there is probably an overflow tube with a waterline that sits in the top,if your valve leaks a bit it will go down that tube and straight into the bowl without going into the tank,thus diluting the blue water that came in through the tank.
    Take the top off the tank and listen for water running ,it may be just a really slow trickle and you would need to look carefully.If you can hear it then you know the valve needs replacing.It is a cheap and easy fix.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    FYI, putting that crap into your toilet tank is BAD for all of the internal parts.
    and pets.[:0][:D]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought 2 pack of 2, 000 flushes, turned out to be 1 blue tab, 1 bleach tab, maybe got 20 flushes, found out it was a gelatin mass inside the tank, looked blue, but would do similar
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    FYI, putting that crap into your toilet tank is BAD for all of the internal parts.


    We have a bingo!

    All your flapper valves will prematurely deteriorate from those chemicals. I just use a spray bottle with 15% chlorine/water and spray it in the bowl. Does the same job without ruining the flappers.
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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Drink a gallon of bleach your Pee will clean the bowl, if you want blue drink blue kool aide
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • torosapotorosapo Member Posts: 4,946
    edited November -1
    I think perry shooter and trapr have it right. My landlord just put in a new 1200 gal septic tank for my trailer. He came and told me I had water running steady and to check my toilets. One of them the water was running in that hose bad, but we couldn't hear it unless right next to it real close.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,491 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just reach down and turn the shutoff valve clockwise.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, so I flushed it about 3 times in a row at about 1 and got home at around 6 and now it stayed blue.

    I checked the little hose and there was no water running. Kinda thought that might have been it when it was brought up.

    I really don't think it is the gasket leaking because all the water in the tank is blue, so blue water leaking would keep the bowl full of blue water. But it was changing the blue water clear.

    Gonna leave it till morning and if clear, I will flush it again and turn the water off and see what happens.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    RIP,.....Tidy Bowl Man.[V]
    No way he could have survived all of this flushing.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • RON53RON53 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just for giggles you might try swapping the tablets in the tanks to see if the "problem" moves with the tablet. That should confirm if the toilet is actually the problem.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RON53
    Just for giggles you might try swapping the tablets in the tanks to see if the "problem" moves with the tablet. That should confirm if the toilet is actually the problem.


    This is the first I have ever used the tablets and probably won't again in the future.

    But the tablets look like a ball of slime in the corner of the tank and I don't really want to try to grab it. I don't think it is really solid anymore.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    some flush units have a small hose that runs in the top stand pipe that is in the tank when you flush Most of the water gets to the bowl via the flapper valueBLUE but some comes in direct via this little tube down the stand pipe Each kind of flush unit may be slightly different. If this small tube MINE looks like a weed-eater fuel line it will can slowly run and dilute the water in the bowl until it is clear. flush the unit after it cuts off turn off the valve
    of water supply coming into the tank and see what happens. see if water level goes down in tank.
    EXACTLY!!
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by montanajoe
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    some flush units have a small hose that runs in the top stand pipe that is in the tank when you flush Most of the water gets to the bowl via the flapper valueBLUE but some comes in direct via this little tube down the stand pipe Each kind of flush unit may be slightly different. If this small tube MINE looks like a weed-eater fuel line it will can slowly run and dilute the water in the bowl until it is clear. flush the unit after it cuts off turn off the valve
    of water supply coming into the tank and see what happens. see if water level goes down in tank.
    EXACTLY!!


    That small hose isn't running or dripping in the least.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    change the flapper and the water will stay blue,,[;)][;)]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    don't eat the blue snow.......
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    FCD.

    Did you actually use the word thermocline in a post on GBGD?

    In reference to a toilet tank??

    I'm stunned. It might be admiration. But I can't be sure. (cause I'm stunned)

    If they ever force me to do that "fantastic voyage" microscopic sub into a toilet, I'm going to have them conscript you. Despite you poor performance in backing skid loaders into a garage.

    They might make me shoot from a ball turret. But you are going to be driving!!!
    [:D][:D][;)]
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just checked again and the water was clear. Did not see or hear any water running.

    So I turned the supply water off and flushed all the water out of the tank. Now the bowl has blue water and nowhere for any water to come from the tank. If the water turns clear, it is either what others have said about a chemical/biological reaction in the bowl or somehow the water is exchanging through the p-trap somehow.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    with the water supply OFF,,the water in the toilet stool will stay blue as the water from the tank seeps out from the flapper. You should see the water level in the tank drop.
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,026 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RUGERGUNZ
    Bathroom #3 is rarely ever used, and the water won't even stay blue for one day.


    I must ask, why are you so infatuated with a toilet that is rarely used? As long as there are no floaters, the water is fine no matter the color. Don
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by RUGERGUNZ
    Bathroom #3 is rarely ever used, and the water won't even stay blue for one day.


    I must ask, why are you so infatuated with a toilet that is rarely used? As long as there are no floaters, the water is fine no matter the color. Don


    It's mainly just pissing me off that I can't find the problem. But also if there is water running at all times, it isn't all that great for my septic or my electric bill running the water pump.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    FYI, putting that crap into your toilet tank is BAD for all of the internal parts.


    +1000

    Anything you put in the tank will void the warranty on the stool. You are watching too many commercials if you now think it is important to poop into blue water. Suck it out with a shop vac, install new Korky flappers, and spend some time thinking about buying guns!
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    Theres gotta be an update ????
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