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My hairbrained theory:

kissgoodnightkissgoodnight Member Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭
edited January 2019 in General Discussion
As I drive around Oklahoma I see open prairie, then in the middle of flat land there is a hill. Not a big hill maybe 75 feet tall. There are lots of them.
My theory is that these are burial mounds for native Americans of importance in their time. Mini pyramids if you will.
Any one I have talked to says I am nuts. I mean other than my ordinary nuts.
"It is just a hill", they say.
I still wonder if it is a pyramid in the prairie.

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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Probably not, Oklahoma has been explored to death by geologists trying to find oil. If one of those hills would have been at pyramid, they would have found it by now
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    droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Everyday there is something new about Oklahoma.

    A 100-years later, in 1935, gold diggers became grave diggers when they stumbled on the Spiro Mounds in Eastern Oklahoma. So many artifacts were found that the site became known as the "King Tut of the West".

    http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/indian-burial-grounds/

    Time to break out the metal detector and get rich in Oklahoma. Remember, it's illegal to keep "stuff", the states owns all "stuff".

    You might get mentioned on a plaque in the museum.
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    quote:A terminal moraine, also called end moraine, is a type of moraine that forms at the snout of a glacier, marking its maximum advance. At this point, debris that has accumulated by plucking and abrasion, and has been pushed by the front edge of the ice, is driven no further and instead is dumped in a heap.
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    kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,985 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
    Probably not, Oklahoma has been explored to death by geologists trying to find oil. If one of those hills would have been at pyramid, they would have found it by now


    There is a lot of truth in what you say, but there is also a lot of truth in that often times if things get in the way of oil companies they sometimes will use less than ethical means to ensure there drilling is not interrupted by some old bones... IJS.
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    lots of old buffalo wallows left around the sand hills here and a creek north of town is a prime indian stuff site...BUT...tough to find anything because of the grass and trees that that have grown in the last 150 years...a former landlord had his great great? grandads story of riding a horse from Kinsley to Hutchinson KS across the prairie and seeing only ONE tree on the way..heap different now chief
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK was not populated by Indians as densely as it is now until Andrew Jackson forced the Indians west in 1830 by signing the Indian Removal act.

    The Indian Removal Act was signed into law by President Andrew Jackson on May 28, 1830, authorizing the president to grant unsettled lands west of the Mississippi in exchange for Indian lands within existing state borders. A few tribes went peacefully, but many resisted the relocation policy. During the fall and winter of 1838 and 1839, the Cherokees were forcibly moved west by the United States government. Approximately 4,000 Cherokees died on this forced march, which became known as the "Trail of Tears.
    RLTW

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    babunbabun Member Posts: 11,054 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Covered over decommissioned ICBM silos.

    {no green font needed}
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,958 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote]A terminal moraine, also called end moraine, is a type of moraine that forms at the snout of a glacier, marking its maximum advance. At this point, debris that has accumulated by plucking and abrasion, and has been pushed by the front edge of the ice, is driven no further and instead is dumped in a heap.

    But not in Oklahoma, not south of the Missouri river which excludes all of Oklahoma from glaciation. Lots of glacial kettles in South Dakota, little evidence below Nebraska.

    Sometimes a hill is just a hill.
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting subject. Check this out:

    Watson Brake is an archaeological site in present-day Ouachita Parish, Louisiana, from the Archaic period. Dated to about 5400 years ago (approx. 3500 BCE), Watson Brake is considered the oldest earthwork mound complex in North America.[1] It is older than the Egyptian pyramids or England?s Stonehenge. Its discovery and dating in a paper published in 1997 changed the ideas of American archaeologists about ancient cultures in the Southeast and their ability to manage large, complex projects over centuries. The archeologists revised their date of the oldest earthwork construction by nearly 2000 years, as well as having to recognize that it was developed over centuries by a hunter-gatherer society, rather than by what was known to be more common of other, later mound sites: a more sedentary society dependent on maize cultivation and with a hierarchical, centralized polity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_Brake

    Also interesting:

    Uses of Mounds
    The earliest mounds seem to have functioned both as public landmarks for seasonal gatherings and platforms for villages. Many of the shell mounds within the interior of the Southeast seem merely to have been piles of discarded freshwater mussel shells that marked the location of annual harvests and feasts. Burial mounds were built in the Southeast throughout several cultural periods. The massive geometric earthworks of the Hopewell Culture apparently defined locations of major regional trade festivals and religious gatherings. On the other hand, the pyramidal mounds of the Southeast, western Tennessee and Louisiana either were the bases of temples or the locations of important rituals. Some pyramidal mounds, built between 300 AD and 750 AD were the bases of mortuary temples, where human remains were applied special rituals and then cremated. Beginning around 700 AD in southern Florida, 900 AD farther north and 1000 AD in the middle Mississippi Basin, both pyramidal and conical mounds were the bases of conventional temples or the houses of important leaders. This architectural tradition continued until the 1600s, when most mound construction stopped in the Southeast.

    https://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/why-and-how-did-native-americans-build-mounds.htm
    What's next?
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    our lake place is on the edge of Cross Timbers State Park , a geographical feature being the change of forest to prairie...hiking trails with the oldest living tree there dating to late 1700's..diff there with rocks and trees compared our prairie home of sand and weeds...a treat to sit on the deck and look across the lake as the sun goes down when the lake is colored a blazing orange..migration route for eagles, hummingbirds and monarchs....low ground like the ozarks and upland is prairie pasture....nice catfish and crappie lake with few around except on memorial, 4th, labor day..low % of full timers...
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,038 ******
    edited November -1
    You may be on to something,,
    The reply by kimi is very interesting.
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