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12 Gauge Shotgun

bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
edited August 2017 in General Discussion
What's an appropriate barrel length for shooting pheasant?

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  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Short if up close, longer if farther away.

    You expected this kind of answer when you posted it, right?[:o)]
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
  • lkanneslkannes Member Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On a pump or automatic I prefer a 26" barrel, On an over/under or side by side I prefer 28" barrels.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    Short if up close, longer if farther away.

    You expected this kind of answer when you posted it, right?[:o)]


    Well yes, I did![;)]
    [:D][:D][:D]
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Any length will work especially with 00 buck, aim for the ones with the torches and pitchforks first.


    Not peasants!!!

    [:D][:D]
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Any length will work especially with 00 buck, aim for the ones with the torches and pitchforks first.




    [:D]
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    If you are walking - beating - driving game and working with dogs in scrub brush or agricultural fields I would recommend 26" bbl's with a good set of interchangeable choke tubes and ammo

    The need to maneuver the gun and bring it up quick for snap shots on off angles means light and short is preferred

    A browning citori lightning in 12 gauge with 26" o/a bbls is almost optimal as a template for consideration

    Jmho

    Mike


    So Mike, I bot a 26" Browning BPS at a Gander Mountain going out of business sale two weeks ago. Under $400 out the door. Had to have it at that price. Browning for Mossberg price? Sold.

    My first shotgun ever.

    It seems HUGELY long to me!

    Steel Modified and Steel Full chokes were included (there are "lead" notations. But that is only confusing to me.)

    I understand I'll need to go pattern it at some point. But I'm in the ballpark. Right?
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1187 Upland with 26" barrel.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,262 ******
    edited November -1
    26" with a good choke. The choke does most of the work,,[;)][;)]
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    It's a good start.

    You will need some practice - some rounds of trap shooting on a regular basis with it to get it right.

    I have always found the citori lightnings to be light and live guns in the field

    But you have a good product at a good price that is suitable under most circumstances.

    Mike


    When I won the pheasant trip at auction, I was hoping it would require a Citori. [;)]

    What I'm hearing you say... is that this would be perfect for my wife who will be on the trip with us. And a Citori would be great for someone who was traveling with her on this expedition?[;)][:D]

    We have some time, and some resources to get us on trap to practice.

    But it still seems like I'm swinging a telephone pole at 26"!
  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I prefer 26" barrels on my shotguns. My main pheasant/upland gun is a Ruger Red Label.

    That being said modern shotgun shells are made for 22-24" barrels. Anything less or more will give you very slightly less than the velocities published on the boxes. The length of barrel also has little to do with pattern density, as someone else said the choke does probably 60% and the shotgun shell itself probably 40%. It just so happens that the two most common lengths are 26" or 28" barrels. There are some 24" and 30" too but not nearly as common.

    So in summary get what you can afford and what feels good to quickly shoulder and point, they all work nearly the same.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's the platform? Generally 26" is the max you want for upland hunting with a pump or semi-auto but if you have a 28" it will work fine. For double guns nothing shorter than 26" and up to 30" works fine, I prefer 26". You really don't want anything too short due to muzzle blast and noise, think not only of yourself but also those you may be hunting beside. 2-4" doesn't seem like much, but it is when it's distance from your ears.

    My main pheasant gun is an Ithaca 37 with 26" vent rib barrel and choke tubes. I recently bought a Beretta White Wing O/U with 26" barrels and choke tubes I am going to give a try.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D]quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Any length will work especially with 00 buck, aim for the ones with the torches and pitchforks first.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Heavy ChevyHeavy Chevy Member Posts: 736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    22" with mod choke
  • bearman49709bearman49709 Member Posts: 503
    edited November -1
    I've used 20"-30" 20 GA 16 GA and 12 GA and there isn't any difference between the whole lot of them.
    Match the choke and the shell and hit the bird.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Any length will work especially with 00 buck, aim for the ones with the torches and pitchforks first.


    Well played
  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I shot most of my pheasants with a 30" full choke Model 12. I didn't have a dog and most were 35 or 40 yards out. Worked OK.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    generally speaking, steel shoots tighter than lead, so a steel modified is a lead IC, and a steel full is a lead modified.
    as someone stated before barrel length is not nearly as important as he choke selection. with pheasants you have a tad longer aiming time than say a covey of quail. a pheasant will fly up first before he takes off horizontal from decent field cover.
    if i am not mistaken, that BPS takes Invector PLUS choke tubes
    and there is a wide variety of choke tubes. for most pheasant country a light modified would be ideal out to 35 -40 yards
    whether from a 30-28-26 barrel, whatever you feel comfortable with, your buddies will let you know NOT to bring that short/ported barrel along ever again because of the increased report. quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    If you are walking - beating - driving game and working with dogs in scrub brush or agricultural fields I would recommend 26" bbl's with a good set of interchangeable choke tubes and ammo

    The need to maneuver the gun and bring it up quick for snap shots on off angles means light and short is preferred

    A browning citori lightning in 12 gauge with 26" o/a bbls is almost optimal as a template for consideration

    Jmho

    Mike


    So Mike, I bot a 26" Browning BPS at a Gander Mountain going out of business sale two weeks ago. Under $400 out the door. Had to have it at that price. Browning for Mossberg price? Sold.

    My first shotgun ever.

    It seems HUGELY long to me!

    Steel Modified and Steel Full chokes were included (there are "lead" notations. But that is only confusing to me.)

    I understand I'll need to go pattern it at some point. But I'm in the ballpark. Right?
  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You could go retro. This was my pheasant shooter for many years. Model 12 20" riot gun with a Weaver choke. I even took it to the trap range, there were a few chuckles. But it did well.

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  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,262 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wundudnee
    You could go retro. This was my pheasant shooter for many years. Model 12 20" riot gun with a Weaver choke. I even took it to the trap range, there were a few chuckles. But it did well.

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