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honest question for the LEO's

evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
i went to a trail ride dance saturday night,the police had the gate and were present at the party.

5 or 6 officers 3 or 4 cars an suv's

so its alittle after midnite, we pack our stuff up and head to the gate, im drunk as * brown, i know it, it was my night to do so.

i had it planned, my non drinking friend was with me, i drove in he's driving home as planned.

we pass the police at the gate speaking to him for awhile, he knows im drunk, i tell him so.he sees us get in the truck,he knows we have a sober driver, mile down the road we get pulled over, the 67 elcaimno with flames on the front is not hard to spot.

so the police walks up to the driver an ask where we are going, home says the DD, shines light in our eyes doesnt ask for licinse or ins or any thing, dosent tell why we were pulled over just says watch your driving son and walks away.

so whats the deal with that? what happened to probable cause?
this was a sargent, it seems to me with all the show of force at the party they could've had eveyone blow an labled us there.

you know you cant drive , ok your good. not side of the road where i feel we were put in danger for someone looking at the blue lights and crash into us or the officer,

why didnt the officer at the gate raido ahead an tell it alls good with such an such?

where did the protect an serve go? all we have ( seem to have) is a money making venture.

thanks, didnt mean to be so long winded, yall be safe.

Comments

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,285 ******
    edited November -1
    I thought I was dancing until someone stepped on my hand.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    doing his job...and rather well...
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    cause he can ..[;)]do not question authority
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.
  • 1880texan1880texan Member Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Big Brother sez You WILL Obey!! [8]
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.
    that he did do, give him that
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He wanted to see ifin you had any pretty wimmen to ogle.
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    He wanted to see ifin you had any pretty wimmen to ogle.
    they were in the car behind us, he cut them off to get between us, might be the way he rolls

    the groom was with me, my wife was with the bride,tring to keep them seprated, like rabbits i tell you young love is so great to see.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Makes no sense to me either.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    You got to understand Cops, he was sure he was going to get some at the parts or at the very least meet some sweet young thing. His plans didn't work out for him, so the next best thing was to go looking for trouble.

    How many times you seen a young man go to party, strike out and end up in a fight, same thing slightly different twist.

    I really don't think he did it out of any motive other than some sort of personal satisfaction. Best guess is he was frustrated and angry.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Were the ones at the Party on Duty or just hired for the party.


    Know in this area you pull out of a few Bars Parking lots after Midnight and you will be pulled over.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He was looking out for the well being of you and others on the road so stop your snivelling.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D]
    quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
    I thought I was dancing until someone stepped on my hand.
  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.


    and what makes you think that would happen ? yes i know and understand it could but what designated driver in their right mind would do so ?
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    Were the ones at the Party on Duty or just hired for the party.


    Know in this area you pull out of a few Bars Parking lots after Midnight and you will be pulled over.
    i dont know if they were on duty or hired.here to leaving the bars, that real police work right there. kinda like huntin over bait.
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redhawkk480
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.


    and what makes you think that would happen ? yes i know and understand it could but what designated driver in their right mind would do so ?
    still no probal cause
  • EMCSEMCS Member Posts: 4,063
    edited November -1
    evileye fleagal "im drunk as * brown"

    still no probal cause


    Maybe your "im drunk as * brown" missed the reason for the stop , and the LEO decided not to pursue any other action.

    spelling correction
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    If you were too drunk to drive, you might have been too drink to know how well or bad the driver was driving.

    Just saying, and I'm not an LEO.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    "Probal (sic) cause" is not needed for a stop. Probable cause is needed for an arrest.
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    "Probal (sic) cause" is not needed for a stop. Probable cause is needed for an arrest.
    OOOOHHHH now i see said the blind man.
  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    "Probal (sic) cause" is not needed for a stop. Probable cause is needed for an arrest.


    when did that go out the door ? years gone by they sure needed a reason to pull you over
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redhawkk480
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    "Probal (sic) cause" is not needed for a stop. Probable cause is needed for an arrest.


    when did that go out the door ? years gone by they sure needed a reason to pull you over


    They are supposed to have a reason to pull you over in theory. The fact is they can dream up half a dozen excuses after the fact.

    I got pulled over once, they stopped me and I asked why they pulled me over. They said I'd taken the last corner too fast. I'd been on the same street for five miles.

    It was pretty funny, they emptied the ash tray on the floor, dug all the old McDonalds rappers out form under the seats and told me to open the trunk. They looked in the trunk and asked what are all the radios doing in there? I kept waiting for the light of recognition, these guys were actually pretty stupid. I was delivering an unmarked detectives car from the tow yard to the Police garage. You'd think they would recognize a clone of there own car, just in a different color. Nope, these guys were on a mission to bust somebody for something.[:D]

    Cops have a way of twisting the story to fit the situation.
  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.


    That was my thought.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sav99
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.


    That was my thought.



    I can't think of any scenario where they would. Can you?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Sav99
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Maybe he was just making sure the designated driver and the drunk passenger did not change places.


    That was my thought.



    I can't think of any scenario where they would. Can you?



    Changing drivers sure wouldn't be smart, but maybe the LEO's have seen that sort of thing before.
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is no requirement for probable cause to stop a motor vehicle operating on a public highway and check that the vehicle and the driver are properly licensed, and that the operator is not intoxicated. You agreed to that as a condition of using a public highway. It's called implied consent.
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    unless your name is pablo and you are from mexico. eastbank.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by evileye fleagal
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    He wanted to see ifin you had any pretty wimmen to ogle.
    they were in the car behind us, he cut them off to get between us, might be the way he rolls

    the groom was with me, my wife was with the bride,tring to keep them seprated, like rabbits i tell you young love is so great to see.



    Then it must be cause you're ugly. [;)][}:)][:D]
  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You agreed to that as a condition of using a public highway. It's called implied consent.

    i never read that nor agreed to it , thats bull _______ my tax dollars help pay for those roads and the LEO's that work there , they are public road ways to be use by the public

    I guess Adolf Hitler would be a proud man to see what our laws and SOME of the LEO's that enforce them have become [:(][xx(]
    papers , papers please [:(!]
  • jeffb1911jeffb1911 Member Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sav99, yes as a peace officer i have seen stupid things many times-such as a carload of sober people with a drunk driver. When they left the club the drunk (owner of the car in question) allowed someone to drive his vehicle. Well, being the "real man" that he was he began to demand to be allowed to drive his vehicle, and would not take no for an answer.

    What did he get for his trouble? A wrecked car, night in jail, several seriously injured friends, and a whole lot of legal trouble that lasted for a while!
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    Just a chance to try to gather some bucks for his county!. It seems the long nose of the law knows no bounds[;)]
  • woodhogwoodhog Member Posts: 13,115 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    note to self; Don't remark 'drunk I am' to cops on way to car
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Just a chance to try to gather some bucks for his county!. It seems the long nose of the law knows no bounds

    Maybe, just maybe, the "long nose of the law" will be otherwise occupied and won't stop a drunk driver from killing someone you care about. I hope not, but if God forbid, a family member of yours falls victim to a drunk driver, you will be screaming, "Where were the police and why didn't they stop him?"
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,240 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:Just a chance to try to gather some bucks for his county!. It seems the long nose of the law knows no bounds

    Maybe, just maybe, the "long nose of the law" will be otherwise occupied and won't stop a drunk driver from killing someone you care about. I hope not, but if God forbid, a family member of yours falls victim to a drunk driver, you will be screaming, "Where were the police and why didn't they stop him?"
    YEP.
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