9 mm

sammash

What's the difference between.9 mm luger.......9x18......9x19.....and 380......I think a 9 mm and a 9x19 is the same.....are any interchangeable or are they all diff. .thanks.

sammash

i am looking to buy a 9mm have not decided on what kind yet
am looking at pt 111 but not sure yet i like sa/da so that gun is a set back
have also looked at other taurus models i like the 1911 type guns
i want one just for fun and maybe to carry but not all the time
thats why i was looking at the pt 111
dont have alot of money for one but i want a good brand not junk
please post any idea's

chris

84Bravo1

It's smaller and less effective than a .45 or a .40. [:D][}:)]

buschmaster

9x19 = 9mm Luger.

9x18 is "9x18 Makarov", which is similar to .380 but a leetle smaller and weaker. they are not interchangeable. you can't shoot a 9x18 Makarov out of a .380 and vice versa.

84Bravo1

.380 is referred to as 9mm kurz.
(Short)

NeoBlackdog

quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
Its smaller and less effective than a .45. or a .40![:D][}:)]

Not ITS, IT'S. A contraction of it and is.[:D]
As to the original question, The .380 is a 9x17mm, AKA the 9mm Kurz. The 9x18 is the round for the Russian Makarov pistols, and the 9x19 is also known as the 9mm Luger and/or 9mm Parabellum.
No, they are not interchangeable.
Spelling and/or grammar corrections welcomed...[;)]

Horse Plains Drifter

9x19, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum(9sp?) all the same. Then, like already mentioned, there is 9x18(Makarov), and 380(9x17, 9mm Kurz). There is also 9mm IMI(9x21), and 9mm Largo(9x23)

84Bravo1

I'm blaming my damn auto spell, on my phone.




I am an edjimicated man. [:D]

buschmaster

and 9mm Ultra, 9mm Action Express, 9x25 Dillon, 9mm Steyr, 9mm Browning Long...

sammash

Think I got all that.....what it boils down to is I have aquired some 9 mm ammo......I have a 9x18 Mak....and a 380.....so ammo is useless to me....thank

Aztngundoc22

OK :

Horse Plains nailed it !!!!!!

Good Job !!!

Thanks !!!

victorj19

quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
9x19 = 9mm Luger.

9x18 is "9x18 Makarov", which is similar to .380 but a leetle smaller and weaker. they are not interchangeable. you can't shoot a 9x18 Makarov out of a .380 and vice versa.


You are correct that the 9x18 cannot be fire in a 380 chamber. The Mak bullets are .363 -.365 in dia. while the 380 bullets are .356 - 357 in dia. While the measurements may be off by +
.001 or so, the large Mak bullets won't fit the smaller 380 chamber.
However years ago at an indoor range while picking up my 9x18 Makarov brass, I noticed bulged and split 380 (9x17) brass. I picked up some of the split 380s. The man next to me appeared to shooting a Mak. Out in the store I asked him what he was shooting and what ammo. He confirmed that he was shooting a Mak he had just bought and was using 380s since his father, a cop, told him that's what to use. He explained that he planned on taking the pistol with him to either Iraq or Afghanistan when he deployed in 2 weeks.

I showed him the split brass, told him I was shooting the same pistol and then showed him a box of the 9x18 Mak ammo. I explained that while the 380 ammo sometimes works in a Mak, it isn't correct, will be excessively dirty, could easily have FTFs, and nowhere near as accurate. After determining the range didn't sell Mak ammo, I sold him a box of ball ammo.

Wulfmann

V19 explained what is relevant and potentially dangerous when not using the correct ammo.

One more thing.
While 380 is also known as 9MM Kurz (plus a couple other designations) it is not actually a shorter 9MM case.
It is a different case altogether with a different sized rim (same rim size as 223 rifle) so it uses a different shell plate for reloading.

While seemingly obvious one should never put 380 in a 9MM

montanajoe

Agree,,