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i broke a range rule today
legear
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Had a few guns on the table unloaded and bolt open waiting to shoot.
The range guy noticed i had my carry pistol on my hip and had a fit.
He wasn't rude but i could tell he was mad about it.
I didn't argue cause his range his rules.
But, i think its a little hypocritical, carry in public is ok but at the range is not?
The range guy noticed i had my carry pistol on my hip and had a fit.
He wasn't rude but i could tell he was mad about it.
I didn't argue cause his range his rules.
But, i think its a little hypocritical, carry in public is ok but at the range is not?
Comments
Yes, there is some hypocrisy. On the other hand, if there's an episode or incident it's on his insurance...where it's on you and your insurance for episodes/incidents away from the range. Fact is, most ranges have the same or similar policies.
I have never been to a range that had a rule like that.
So, you had several firearms already out on the table, in plain view, and he flipped out over one that was not only on your person, but secured and normally not visible anyway?
The ones on the table were not loaded. Most ranges have the same rule. Concealed is concealed.
So, you had several firearms already out on the table, in plain view, and he flipped out over one that was not only on your person, but secured and normally not visible anyway?
Yes.
I've never heard of a rule like that before. What's the purpose of such a rule? Everyone there is armed anyway.
They want all guns empty while people are down range. For the ranges that have target movers, I believe that they are worried about people trying to draw from a holster and shooting somewhere other than down range.
So, you had several firearms already out on the table, in plain view, and he flipped out over one that was not only on your person, but secured and normally not visible anyway?
Yes.
quote:Originally posted by MrGunz22
I've never heard of a rule like that before. What's the purpose of such a rule? Everyone there is armed anyway.
They want all guns empty while people are down range. For the ranges that have target movers, I believe that they are worried about people trying to draw from a holster and shooting somewhere other than down range.
Makes sense
to an indoor one once and an outdoor one three times. With any kind
of luck, I'll never have to visit one again. It's not the rules that bother me, but rather the strangers around me with loaded weapons. You
just can't keep an eye on everyone at one time, nor can the range official.
quote:Originally posted by tapwater
..I feel for you guys that have to go to a managed range. I've been
to an indoor one once and an outdoor one three times. With any kind
of luck, I'll never have to visit one again. It's not the rules that bother me, but rather the strangers around me with loaded weapons. You
just can't keep an eye on everyone at one time, nor can the range official.
i have seen many of idiots handling firearms, i have seen guy pull up and start shooting with others down at the 200 yard range putting up targets, i have seen many AD'S , i have been flagged 6 {six} times and for those that dont know what that means, it means i have had a loaded gun pointed in my direction, once had a guy to my right trying to clear a 1911 parralel right towards my stomach, had a guy walk down the bench area with a loaded 30/30 lever action he couldnt get cleared holding it by the reciever with the barrel waving up and down with each step, we have had idiot shooting up the outhouse etc, etc, etc
yes you never know when some yahoo want to get the urge to draw his ccw on a cold range, or even a hot range to test his "skills" when he has none
there is a reason mcdonalds has pictures of the menu on the cash register
Today, after the gun show, after picking up an ammo order at Cabela's, after driving around various shooting spots picking up all that "Donated Brass", I got in about 50 rounds of 25 yard pistol practice.
All without once being barked at by a Range Ossifer.
Now roll it back some years, I used to love range time. I'd set up targets at three distances. Set the table in front of me with several different rifles and a couple of handguns. Then my "game" was to move randomly between guns and targets. Not trying for precision groups, just reasonable hunting/self defense groups. A few rounds with one gun, shift targets, shift guns, not thinking about which is next just trying to keep it going kind of free-form.
That could mean .22 semi-auto, .30-30 lever gun, 12ga rifled slugs, several pistol calibers, .44-40 lever gun, .30-06 bolt action. Mixed iron sights and scopes. Hell of a lot of fun.
Most a range officer ever said to me back in those days was "Usually we don't let people shoot like that but you were keeping all your shots on target, so I just watched".
These days they'd call in the MEGAPHONE SWAT TEAM and ban yer * forever.
There's one reason why I don't go to controlled shooting ranges any more. Head out into the desert instead. Take a folding table and chair. Use cardboard boxes to tape targets too. When exact distances are important I have a 100 foot measuring tape on a reel.
Today, after the gun show, after picking up an ammo order at Cabela's, after driving around various shooting spots picking up all that "Donated Brass", I got in about 50 rounds of 25 yard pistol practice.
All without once being barked at by a Range Ossifer.
Now roll it back some years, I used to love range time. I'd set up targets at three distances. Set the table in front of me with several different rifles and a couple of handguns. Then my "game" was to move randomly between guns and targets. Not trying for precision groups, just reasonable hunting/self defense groups. A few rounds with one gun, shift targets, shift guns, not thinking about which is next just trying to keep it going kind of free-form.
That could mean .22 semi-auto, .30-30 lever gun, 12ga rifled slugs, several pistol calibers, .44-40 lever gun, .30-06 bolt action. Mixed iron sights and scopes. Hell of a lot of fun.
Most a range officer ever said to me back in those days was "Usually we don't let people shoot like that but you were keeping all your shots on target, so I just watched".
These days they'd call in the MEGAPHONE SWAT TEAM and ban yer * forever.
The last time I went to a pay range was just that, the last time, period.
Just got everything unloaded from the truck. Got the bench squared away, the rests all set, and the spotting scope where I wanted it. I take my M1 from the case, lock the bolt back, and set it on the bench.
This hotshot a couple tables down walks over, sizes me and my M1 up, and proceeds to say "I bet a kid like you don't even know how that gun works, do you son?"
Without saying a word, and completely ignoring his repeatedly saying "hey, I'm talking to you boy!", I just slowly loaded everything back up in the truck, and left. Didn't even have a chance to hang up a target, before he mouthed off.
Really makes me appreciate the spot I shoot at now. Just a couple miles west of here (versus around 25 one way where Rambo the Loud hangs out), up in the woods, and quiet. If I head up there, and someone is already set up in my normal spot, I just go a couple hundred yards further up the road, and make noise at the other open shooting lane.
Youins are welcome here anytime.
..I feel for you guys that have to go to a managed range. I've been
to an indoor one once and an outdoor one three times. With any kind
of luck, I'll never have to visit one again. It's not the rules that bother me, but rather the strangers around me with loaded weapons. You
just can't keep an eye on everyone at one time, nor can the range official.
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
There's one reason why I don't go to controlled shooting ranges any more. Head out into the desert instead. Take a folding table and chair. Use cardboard boxes to tape targets too. When exact distances are important I have a 100 foot measuring tape on a reel.
Today, after the gun show, after picking up an ammo order at Cabela's, after driving around various shooting spots picking up all that "Donated Brass", I got in about 50 rounds of 25 yard pistol practice.
All without once being barked at by a Range Ossifer.
Now roll it back some years, I used to love range time. I'd set up targets at three distances. Set the table in front of me with several different rifles and a couple of handguns. Then my "game" was to move randomly between guns and targets. Not trying for precision groups, just reasonable hunting/self defense groups. A few rounds with one gun, shift targets, shift guns, not thinking about which is next just trying to keep it going kind of free-form.
That could mean .22 semi-auto, .30-30 lever gun, 12ga rifled slugs, several pistol calibers, .44-40 lever gun, .30-06 bolt action. Mixed iron sights and scopes. Hell of a lot of fun.
Most a range officer ever said to me back in those days was "Usually we don't let people shoot like that but you were keeping all your shots on target, so I just watched".
These days they'd call in the MEGAPHONE SWAT TEAM and ban yer * forever.
The last time I went to a pay range was just that, the last time, period.
Just got everything unloaded from the truck. Got the bench squared away, the rests all set, and the spotting scope where I wanted it. I take my M1 from the case, lock the bolt back, and set it on the bench.
This hotshot a couple tables down walks over, sizes me and my M1 up, and proceeds to say "I bet a kid like you don't even know how that gun works, do you son?"
Without saying a word, and completely ignoring his repeatedly saying "hey, I'm talking to you boy!", I just slowly loaded everything back up in the truck, and left. Didn't even have a chance to hang up a target, before he mouthed off.
Really makes me appreciate the spot I shoot at now. Just a couple miles west of here (versus around 25 one way where Rambo the Loud hangs out), up in the woods, and quiet. If I head up there, and someone is already set up in my normal spot, I just go a couple hundred yards further up the road, and make noise at the other open shooting lane.
You should have put a whole in his bullseye before you left.
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
There's one reason why I don't go to controlled shooting ranges any more. Head out into the desert instead. Take a folding table and chair. Use cardboard boxes to tape targets too. When exact distances are important I have a 100 foot measuring tape on a reel.
Today, after the gun show, after picking up an ammo order at Cabela's, after driving around various shooting spots picking up all that "Donated Brass", I got in about 50 rounds of 25 yard pistol practice.
All without once being barked at by a Range Ossifer.
Now roll it back some years, I used to love range time. I'd set up targets at three distances. Set the table in front of me with several different rifles and a couple of handguns. Then my "game" was to move randomly between guns and targets. Not trying for precision groups, just reasonable hunting/self defense groups. A few rounds with one gun, shift targets, shift guns, not thinking about which is next just trying to keep it going kind of free-form.
That could mean .22 semi-auto, .30-30 lever gun, 12ga rifled slugs, several pistol calibers, .44-40 lever gun, .30-06 bolt action. Mixed iron sights and scopes. Hell of a lot of fun.
Most a range officer ever said to me back in those days was "Usually we don't let people shoot like that but you were keeping all your shots on target, so I just watched".
These days they'd call in the MEGAPHONE SWAT TEAM and ban yer * forever.
The last time I went to a pay range was just that, the last time, period.
Just got everything unloaded from the truck. Got the bench squared away, the rests all set, and the spotting scope where I wanted it. I take my M1 from the case, lock the bolt back, and set it on the bench.
This hotshot a couple tables down walks over, sizes me and my M1 up, and proceeds to say "I bet a kid like you don't even know how that gun works, do you son?"
Without saying a word, and completely ignoring his repeatedly saying "hey, I'm talking to you boy!", I just slowly loaded everything back up in the truck, and left. Didn't even have a chance to hang up a target, before he mouthed off.
Really makes me appreciate the spot I shoot at now. Just a couple miles west of here (versus around 25 one way where Rambo the Loud hangs out), up in the woods, and quiet. If I head up there, and someone is already set up in my normal spot, I just go a couple hundred yards further up the road, and make noise at the other open shooting lane.
You should have put a whole in his bullseye before you left.
Had I brought my 7x57 with me that day, I just might have done that. Would've been fun to punch that little red dot out of the center, then turn around, wink at the guy, and ask "well, any questions?"
[:D][:D][;)]
Granted I dont go to a lot of public ranges any longer, have ranges & places to shoot that are private, or at least one range am welcome at and go when its closed except for my family/friends and have the entire range to ourselves...but was not always like that.
YOU, were toally right, following the rules of EVERY range Ive ever been on.
IF I had had some knucklehead come up and inform me of that rule, "his rule" and actually show he was angry while bouncing me, I'd have told him to stick his "rule" up his * and park it right next to his brain and left, not to return...sounds like he thought his authority as a range officer gave him some type of power, at least in his small life form of a brain he thinks so, Im too old for that petty crap and just cant tolerate the clinically stupid...[;)]
I gave up, don't need that degree of "Management". Just too many decades beyond being a child thank you very much.
The controlled public ranges I've been to in Arizona all have signs forbidding loaded guns even entering the property. One I went to several times before getting disgusted has a sign says if your gun is loaded, pull over and see the Range Officer. No carrying, all shooting by their Megaphone Commands. When shooting stops to do targets, you must stand behind a painted line. No picking up your brass, the RO's go up and down checking actions and giving orders.
I gave up, don't need that degree of "Management". Just too many decades beyond being a child thank you very much.
But not everybody has the same level of maturity or common sense. Therefore, the rules apply to all.