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My first Computer

retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
edited December 2017 in General Discussion
My-first-computer_small.jpg?w=630

... and I started out with PentelCAD as well. [^]

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I "envisioned" 3D in 2D views as well using protractor, triangles, and a T-square.
I suppose I was enabled by my White Privilege and good 'ol Pythagoras.

And one of my colleagues, (now long dead) who was Black, never complained about his 'White Privilege' when using that 'Greek Math'.

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  • auctionplugauctionplug Member Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    good for you...




    buying an American made computer and supporting the economy.


    ...but I do have doubts if the pentalcad can hold it own against the American ones. [;)]
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yep, that was mine too, but I moved on to a Dietzgen Log Log Decitrig! [:D]

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's not a computer, it's a printer.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where's the "any" key?
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    My-first-computer_small.jpg?w=630

    ... and I started out with PentelCAD as well. [^]

    102426_x.jpg

    I "envisioned" 3D in 2D views as well using protractor, triangles, and a T-square.
    I suppose I was enabled by my White Privilege and good 'ol Pythagoras.

    And one of my colleagues, (now long dead) who was Black, never complained about his 'White Privilege' when using that 'Greek Math'.




    I think I still have most of that set, I know I still have the 0.3 handy which was always my favorite as a lefty. (Less graphite to smudge...) My daughter is a 3rd year Architect student and has her own set. One of her Christmas presents was a set of Prisma markers that usually retail for $350. Got a deal for $72 and a set of 24 grey thrown in... She'd better get an A in studio this semester!

    Now that you remind me, I first learned drafting from one of the guys that worked for my dad when I was in high school. Older black guy who like me was left handed and really helped me with my lettering. Then in college I worked in the drafting department for Physical Plant on Campus. My supervisor and one of the electrical drafting guys on my team were both black and I can't tell you how much I learned from those 2 while I was working there. Those folks were raised in a different age and had a strong work ethic unlike a lot of what we see today...
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That cracks me up....kind of reminds me of technical drawing that I took while in middle school as part of shop...great class and I learned a lot in it. We had a great shop teacher...the man was patient, firm and fun with all 27 of us young teenage boys and yet not one of us ever got seriously hurt...he was the kind of man that helped produce men...not snowflakes.

    If I recall he also helped coach the football and base ball teams during the respective seasons.
  • oldWinchesterfanoldWinchesterfan Member Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I used and still have those tools, but rather than CAD I used them for mathematics and documentation .....at a CPA firm.

    When I retired, we were "paperless" ...... paper files were replaced with software programs stored on a central network. Never quite got used to that.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan
    I used and still have those tools, but rather than CAD I used them for mathematics and documentation .....at a CPA firm.

    When I retired, we were "paperless" ...... paper files were replaced with software programs stored on a central network. Never quite got used to that.


    My class at Georgia Tech was the last class required to have pencil and ink drafting. I am actually glad since my Daughter is an Architecture student they have to know both hand and CAD drawing and I am able to help her with both. Helping her get through orthographic projection on paper gave me a big smile (That was back in High School).
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My favorite table, was an e size, adjustable height with adjustable tilt similar to this. A year or so later I had the same table with an e sized digitizer on it. Most of what I did was scan old manual drawings and then work with our Mechanical Engineering department to develop the most efficient methods to accurately convert those to CAD.... (Can't get no coffee cup close to that table) How are the bullet chillers working out for you????

    ea45eae44b998145d300e1c866b174b4--drafting-tables-dream-studio.jpg
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very impressive FCD. I enjoyed what they called Mechanical Drawing back in HS. There were guys who just could not visualize 3D on paper. I thought then and still do that it's an innate skill: you either can or can't. Much like flying in that way. Some people simply cannot grasp the four dimensional aspect of it. It's not a deficiency, really; just the way the brain is wired - or not.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Real Draftsmen used Staedtler Mars 2mm lead in mechanical holders,, not those whimppy .5mm,, breaks_a_lot mechanical pencils.

    drafting_lead_pencil.JPG

    Also heavy duty mechanical lead pencil pointer.

    k_e_pointer.JPG

    and "scum bags" , sandpaper pads and lots of rubber bands.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my early days, we would Ink Mylar prints so they would last.

    I had been working on this one "D-Size" assembly for about three days in blue pencil. Then started inking using India Ink refillable pens. Since I'm right handed... I'd start in the top left corner and work my way down to the title block. The India Ink bottle would be to the upper right. I used a tracked protractor like the Captn showed above.

    I had been inking about all day. Sometime about noon, I had moved the India Ink bottle to the upper left 'beyond' the vertical track... I almost finished up and left for the day.

    The next morning I came in and finished the title block and noticed a couple of lines I had missed just beyond mid-way of the print. I slid the protractor up and left and when I did the vertical track swept the India Ink bottle and spilled Ink over a good third of the print. [:0]

    I got up, grabbed my jacket and keys, and left for home. I was disgusted! Pissed would be a better term.

    Next morning I came in, put my jacket up, and there was the print. Still as I had left it. India Ink dried all over the place including the table. I sat there maybe five minutes...

    I moved the track and tilted up the protractor. Picked up the India Ink bottle, capped what looked to be a tad bit of Ink left. Pulled up the taped corners... AND.. Balled that print up like a snowball! Threw it in the trash can.

    My supervisor sat to my left. He never looked up. Just spoke.

    Him... "You feel better now?"
    Me... "Yes."
    Him... "Good. We need that print by day after tomorrow."

    It took two twelve hour days, but I had it finished.

    Tough lesson. DON'T put any liquids on the table. PERIOD.

    ***********

    Those bullet chillers are in the freezer. Haven't tried 'em yet. But I plan to make good use of 'em tonight, tomorrow night, and Monday night. [^]
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Real Draftsmen used Staedtler Mars 2mm lead in mechanical holders,, not those whimppy .5mm,, breaks_a_lot mechanical pencils.

    drafting_lead_pencil.JPG

    Also heavy duty mechanical lead pencil pointer.

    k_e_pointer.JPG

    and "scum bags" , sandpaper pads and lots of rubber bands.
    Used my share of those before I was given a set of Pentel mechanicals...

    Those thick 2mm pencils required you to 'spin' the pencil as you pulled along a straight edge to keep the line straight and uniform. The Pentels were much easier.

    And I 'finally' got me an electric eraser... That was the bomb!
    Then I found out we were going to be doing a whole bunch of brown sepia 'Same As Except' copy prints. [B)] There's nothing like a Diazo copier to give you a headache, QUICK.

    I remember one of the FNG's replaced the ammonia and put the tubes on backwards. We had to leave the building for about an hour!
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